Thinking Of Getting A 2Nd Rifle

[dangerousdan 16]

I was under the impression that the hatsan brand is even more budget than the smk brand. Is this not the case? They seem to have mixed reviews.

 

How come you can get them cheap?

 

I should also add that another reason for me getting a cheaper budget gun is so I can learn how to fettle it and maybe tune it. I wouldn't want to start doing this on my 97!! So a budget end gun which is also tunable is desired.

Edited October 15, 2013 by dangerousdan

[andy97 209]

you can get a brand new 95k with scopes for 260

[dangerousdan 16]

Really? Where from?

[andy97 209]

Arthur tuner guns Sheffield I bought a 97kt 300 with scopes and bag and he threwa tin of pellets in all brand new boxed

[dangerousdan 16]

Arthur tuner guns Sheffield I bought a 97kt 300 with scopes and bag and he threwa tin of pellets in all brand new boxed

 

I paid that for my second hand one without a bag. You must have caught the sale there mate.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

I was under the impression that the hatsan brand is even more budget than the smk brand. Is this not the case? They seem to have mixed reviews.

 

How come you can get them cheap?

 

I should also add that another reason for me getting a cheaper budget gun is so I can learn how to fettle it and maybe tune it. I wouldn't want to start doing this on my 97!! So a budget end gun which is also tunable is desired

No, Hatsan are Webley! They are above the SMK brand. However I have heard on the AGF that a new SMK the XS41 is on the way, £200 mind, but sounds interesting!

[pianoman 3,587]

If you want to go new I can get you a £200 rifle for £100.

 

Interested?

 

Walnut stocked, truglo open sights, two stage trigger, yep, Hatsan 60 S if you are after a .22, comes in at around the £100 mark round here! Recoils a bit (was designed to be FAC but throttled back for the UK market and still has a heavyweight piston in), but controllable.

Honestly. Mike.

I'm baffled why you still insist on recommending this utter pile of shit? I've had a good long look at this rifle you are so fond of, and it fails on every possible level of quality, accuracy and consistency. Cheap? I would refuse to accept one for free and anyone using it against live creatures is being irresponsible for humane despatch of the animal.

 

As are you for recommending this rubbish, as such.

 

Simon

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Anyone know what they chrono at?

Edited October 16, 2013 by ChrisJones

[Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701]

Anyone know what they chrono at?

Google it

[Wxm 1,638]

 

If you want to go new I can get you a £200 rifle for £100.

 

Interested?

 

Walnut stocked, truglo open sights, two stage trigger, yep, Hatsan 60 S if you are after a .22, comes in at around the £100 mark round here! Recoils a bit (was designed to be FAC but throttled back for the UK market and still has a heavyweight piston in), but controllable.

 

Honestly. Mike.

I'm baffled why you still insist on recommending this utter pile of shit? I've had a good long look at this rifle you are so fond of, and it fails on every possible level of quality, accuracy and consistency. Cheap? I would refuse to accept one for free and anyone using it against live creatures is being irresponsible for humane despatch of the animal.

 

As are you for recommending this rubbish, as such.

 

Simon

If you read the op then you'd know it's not for live creatures and only for target / plinking so maybe this is why sm offered :?

[darkdd81 36]

To the original poster,

 

If i were you mate, i would save 10-20 quid a week, stick it all in a pot and wait untill you have enough for a secondhand HW,AA or maybe a Diana. You'll get a rifle that if looked after, will last a life time, and if you chose to sell it, at least you will get a healthy return back.

 

ATB

[Mrs Mole 74]

What about this then?? Close to you, £199.00 for a great uk made rifle.

 

http://www.airgunspares.com/store/product/10645/Webley-Xocet-.22-Air-Rifle/

[pianoman 3,587]

That Webley's a much better recommendation than the Hatstand 60 S. Mary But saving up for a quality HW, Diana or Air Arms is a sound idea too.

 

 

 

If you want to go new I can get you a £200 rifle for £100.

Interested?

Walnut stocked, truglo open sights, two stage trigger, yep, Hatsan 60 S if you are after a .22, comes in at around the £100 mark round here! Recoils a bit (was designed to be FAC but throttled back for the UK market and still has a heavyweight piston in), but controllable.

Honestly. Mike.
I'm baffled why you still insist on recommending this utter pile of shit? I've had a good long look at this rifle you are so fond of, and it fails on every possible level of quality, accuracy and consistency. Cheap? I would refuse to accept one for free and anyone using it against live creatures is being irresponsible for humane despatch of the animal.

As are you for recommending this rubbish, as such.

Simon

If you read the op then you'd know it's not for live creatures and only for target / plinking so maybe this is why sm offered :?

 

With great respect Wxm, I did read the op! My remarks as to the Hatstand's unsuitability as a hunting rifle were an aside to it's capability in respect of the dire quality this junk represents. And that includes plinking!

 

I do not believe in letting recommendations for piss-poor airguns that will tempt an unwary buyer into parting with good money for crap and bollocks, go unchallenged.

 

I wouldn't want to buy a gun on another person's recommendation and find myself disappointed, pissed off with it and a hundred quid or more, down for it into the bargain. Why should anyone else be left that way?

 

Would you? No. I'm sure you wouldn't...

 

Best wishes.

Simon

Edited October 18, 2013 by pianoman

[secretagentmole 1,701]

 

If you want to go new I can get you a £200 rifle for £100.

 

Interested?

 

Walnut stocked, truglo open sights, two stage trigger, yep, Hatsan 60 S if you are after a .22, comes in at around the £100 mark round here! Recoils a bit (was designed to be FAC but throttled back for the UK market and still has a heavyweight piston in), but controllable.

Honestly. Mike.

I'm baffled why you still insist on recommending this utter pile of shit? I've had a good long look at this rifle you are so fond of, and it fails on every possible level of quality, accuracy and consistency. Cheap? I would refuse to accept one for free and anyone using it against live creatures is being irresponsible for humane despatch of the animal.

 

As are you for recommending this rubbish, as such.

 

Simon

 

Listen Simon, these are good guns ok they are not priced at the same level as their clone kin (the Webley Stingray Mark 2), but they are every bit as accurate and well made.

 

After your recent problems with an HW I am surprised you keep recommending those. I mean yours had worse problems than ANY Hatsan I have ever owned. The Hatsan is capable of good grouping, recoil is notable due to the fact this was designed to be an FAC rifle and has a heavyweight piston in it, but it is not uncontrollable and gives character to a fine weapon.

 

If you are after a new gun at around the £100 mark I will still recommend a 60S based on current models! If you shop around and invest twice as much yes you can get pretty much any spring powered HW from the 57 to the 97 secondhand and yes they usually are pretty reliable and well made guns. But new you might just scrape a 99 for £220 (Redbeck Air Rifles)...

 

http://www.airgunbuyer.com/details.asp?cat=Air%20Rifles&SubCat=EDGAR%20BROTHERS&Product=2893

 

For those too lazy to click the link here is a cut and paste from the description by Blackpool Air Rifles...

"Full power quality break barrel air rifle, with automatic safety catch , New "Quattro" trigger unit , "SAS" shock absorber system and walnut stock , and for an incredible price. EB55 version is .177, Eb60 is .22 "

 

http://www.airrifleshop.co.uk/Guns/Hatsan/Hatsan.htm

For those too lazy to click the link here is a cut and paste from the description by Redbeck...

"For shooters who require and good little hunting gun but are on a budget you can't go far wrong with the Hatsan Mod60S.

The Mod 60S is a full power rifle that boasts Hatsan's Quattro Trigger & SAS™ - Shock Absorber System.

The air rifle has an automatic cocking safety, and is ideal for back garden plinking or vermin control."

 

Would you accuse Redbeck (one of the more respected retail operations in the industry) to be recommending something for vermin control that was not up to the job Simon?

Edited October 18, 2013 by secretagentmole

[Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701]

Handbags ladies ...

Lol

My new 77 is rough around the edges and twangy.. but i would have it over a webley/hatsan ANYDAY of the week, no, year!

Im sure the hatsan is an 'ok' gun and probably capable of killing at close range.

But its not a hw is it (even if they do have quality issues from new these days)