danw 1,748 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I just dont understand some folks on here I am a crap parent I resent the time energy and money my kids demand I am honestly jealous of the devotion my wife lavishes on them yet they mean everything to me the shouts of daddddddy and hugs from them when I come home are worth more than I can describe, so are the sacrifices worthwhile damned right they are, will I always do all I can to protect them too right,would I leave them alone at home,hotel or anywhere else NOT A f***ing CHANCE when it comes to my kids doing the right thing is the only option and whilst accidents will happen I know it will not be because I have willfully neglected them. Any one who believes the mcanns didnt willfully neglect their duty of care to those kids is deluded they must be punished for that if nothing else and before anyone shouts loosing a child is punishment enough well to my mind that was a consequence of their actions it does not forgive them. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Seems Kate McCann will testify in court after all ...well i say testify..against the so called libleous book the head policeman from Portugal had published...Wonder if the £1 million compensation has got anything to do with it. Yet the same woman couldnt answer routine questions put to her by the same man. What a turn around eh? 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 the definition of willful neglect seems to fit Noun 1. willful neglect - a tendency to be negligent and uncaring; "he inherited his delinquency from his father"; "his derelictions were not really intended as crimes"; "his adolescent protest consisted of willful neglect of all his responsibilities" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tallyho 181 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I think all parents that night were f***ing out of order for leaving all their kids alone, and do think the McCans should be looked into more. They knew madaline had woken up the nighht before but still went out . hand on heart i think they are a disgrace the same for any one leaving young children alone. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,062 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 They intentionally went out for a night out leaving the kids, all under three on their own!!!! I can't believe that you don't see that as being serious neglect! It's nothing like your older child being snatched off the street, or from a shopping centre. It simply isn't just taking your eye off the ball, not by any stretch of the imagination! It's abandoning your little kids for your own selfish wants.....the VAST majority of parents would not do that, they might slip up on the odd occassion, but not just totally neglect/abandon their own (very young) kids like that. And re. your last statement, people are baying for their blood because they're so arrogant that not only did they do it in the first place....and put themselves above the welfare of their own kids, they're still refusing to accept that they're to blame....that's why, it's got nothing to do with the fact they're doctors. Going round in circles here........ive not said they didnt neglect the kid......im saying people neglect their kids every day just 99% of the time theres no harm done and no attention drawn to it. As regards " they,re still refusing to accept they,re to blame "..............they are not to blame.....the person who took the kid is to blame..................If i open the front door and the dog runs out....a car hits it......its stone dead............am i to blame for the dogs death ?.......Yes they are to blame for their poor decision making who else could be........would a written apology to the nation take away their arrogance. So in your example you open your door and let a dog onto the road....and you don't think it's your fault that it gets run over....FFS, what's your real name? Gnasher McCann? It's a similar but far less serious example, you're responsible for the dog and responsible for making sure it doesn't run into traffic! They're to blame for putting not carrying out the very basic responsibilities of being a parent...ie. protecting your child or even being in the same f'ckin building when they're sleeping. You don't have to be super nanny to see that going out and leaving your babies unattended is absolutely outrageous. Your missing the point mate.......the person driving the car is responsible for killing the dog....im responsible for being a careless f****n idiot. Likewise...........the person who took the kid is responsible for abducting/killing the kid......the parents were responsible for being careless f****n idiots. And i think you have the intelligence to know i wasnt comparing the two examples. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,062 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I think I'm going to have to leave it there then. All I can say is I hope know one makes a parenting mistake that others think is unacceptable. Next topic!!!! If I made the same 'mistake' as they did I wouldn't expect anything less than the reaction from other parents on this thread, I'd think I thoroughly deserved it.. Yes but would you deserve to hang ? to be sentanced to life imprisonment ? their hearts gouged out with a blunt bread knife ?......or many of the other punishments folk seem to want. Nobody is denying the f**k up they made........but its what human beings do sometimes...............so Malt,you sound an intelligent and responsible chap......what action/punishment etc would you deserve ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I think I'm going to have to leave it there then. All I can say is I hope know one makes a parenting mistake that others think is unacceptable. Next topic!!!! If I made the same 'mistake' as they did I wouldn't expect anything less than the reaction from other parents on this thread, I'd think I thoroughly deserved it.. Yes but would you deserve to hang ? to be sentanced to life imprisonment ? their hearts gouged out with a blunt bread knife ?......or many of the other punishments folk seem to want.Nobody is denying the f**k up they made........but its what human beings do sometimes...............so Malt,you sound an intelligent and responsible chap......what action/punishment etc would you deserve ? dunno mate, whatever the punishment is for what they done. 10 years in a Portuguese jail for abandonment I read somewhere.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,563 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 i couldnt disagree with you more lab. a short distance away,and who ssys the checked every half hour, if there irresposible enough in this day and age to leave wee kids alone in an apartment complex with god knows who prowling around,or checked in to same place.then i certainly wouldnt believe in the time frame they suggested they checked on there sleeping kids.more interested in sitting at bar knocking them back,we all know we lose track of time when drinking. tbh mate i think you think what they did is common practise amongst folk on holiday.this thread and from what i have seen its very much not. Me an the missus was on about this other night,if they was checking on her so often,how come there's a couple hours time frame for her to go missing?Missus reckons they done her in and got rid of the body. Myself I think she's dead,just a case of who,how and when Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 I think I'm going to have to leave it there then. All I can say is I hope know one makes a parenting mistake that others think is unacceptable. Next topic!!!! Sorry mate, there's another docu on tonight - this shite will drag on for another 20 pages ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raymond1 262 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Even if evidence was found and they were charged, with all the media and public interest that this case has attracted would it ever be possible for a fair trial to be conducted either here or over in portugal I would not bother with a fair trial , they never gave those kids a fair chance that's why those twats got an audience with the pope and prime minister , that alone gives them one big edge my idea is best and a case for justifiable torture if ever there was one 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Even if evidence was found and they were charged, with all the media and public interest that this case has attracted would it ever be possible for a fair trial to be conducted either here or over in portugal I would not bother with a fair trial , they never gave those kids a fair chance that's why those twats got an audience with the pope and prime minister , that alone gives them one big edge my idea is best and a case for justifiable torture if ever there was one they will buy there way out of it ,or a few silly hand shakes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'm loving this thread. Because it gives me a focus for my hatred and anger, just reading much of it. I nearly f**king imploded over April Jones. But, at least That c***'s inside now, and has taken the first cut. These c***s though? They've killed their own f**king chavvy and are now laughing all the way to the bank on milking the story about how some c*** else is responsible! No One 'Abducted' that little girl, FFS! She was DEAD in the f**king apartment. DEAD in the motor. She was DEAD on day one. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Lets all just agree to disagree? Opinions are like arseholes everyone's got one. Might sound harsh but I couldn't really care if she's dead or alive it won't affect my life in any way shape or form. Of course I would hope she's alive or those responsible are punished. Life goes on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 From my limited understanding of Portuguese child laws, abandonment is only an offence if admitted, hence their no comment answers to the Portuguese police in the early stages of the investigation. They either already new this fact or were advised by someone from very early on. very cool and calculated actions in a time of extreme grief and turmoil. the Portuguese police seem convinced of their guilt, most of the British public given the available facts tend to agree something just does not add up in their version of events but until a breakthrough or new evidence is found then this case is just going to rumble on and on, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'm loving this thread. Because it gives me a focus for my hatred and anger, just reading much of it. I nearly f**king imploded over April Jones. But, at least That c***'s inside now, and has taken the first cut. These c***s though? They've killed their own f**king chavvy and are now laughing all the way to the bank on milking the story about how some c*** else is responsible! No One 'Abducted' that little girl, FFS! She was DEAD in the f**king apartment. DEAD in the motor. She was DEAD on day one. some might say feeding the fire of the whole neglect saga in the way that they do over and over again might be diverting the attention away from what actually happened 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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