The Mccanns

[Malt 379]

 

Am glad to be a part of a site with so many fantastic parents and caring people. Who live there lives perfectly every day i admire you all

same old ,same old .......everyone on the net got perfect morals , perfect families,...and perfect dogs .....

now my lads are 9 and 12 years old and I take the dogs across the field and if something like this happened while I was away , I would be in the same perdictament......but this could happen when there outside playing .......but that's ok......

ive heard different views and some say its no different than putting your kids to bed and going down stairs for a drink and meal.......a lot other mixed different opionions but to be honest I don't know what too make of it all.........too lock a child in a room to me is wrong and if the kids weren't in danger where they were sleeping then there would be no need to lock the door........but for there own actions of locking the child in the room proves that they were in danger......be honest with out knowing the real truth of circumstances its hard too evaluate and make decision............but I smell a rat when it comes to the parents , ...........something not right ,.......but time will reveal ,.hopefully

 

Would you have left your kids alone to walk the dogs across the fields if they were the same age as the Mcann kids were though? The little girl was 3.. Don't know how old the twins were, can't seem to find that on the net, anybody know?

 

 

EDIT:

 

Haven't managed to find out exactly how old they were but they were even younger than she was..

[RubyTex 1,957]

The fact is it wasnt a sober decision when they left the kids alone the night of Maddie's so called abduction. They had been drinking in the apartment before they even went to the tapas bar ffs. Was the apartment door locked? yes no yes no ..make your fcukin mind up...just a friggin shame they can't seem to come up with a story they can stick to.

 

I still keep going back to the dogs...dogs are trained and trusted to do all manner of things without question...would you question a dog if it had just marked a bomb on a plane? Or someone carrying drugs? No...so why not trust a dog that has marked where a body has been? These dogs were trained to mark dead bodies and blood and did so...in the car, in the apartment and on the mothers clothes.....how much more do they need to charge someone with murder?

Edited October 15, 2013 by RubyTex

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

The fact is it wasnt a sober decision when they left the kids alone the night of Maddie's so called abduction. They had been drinking in the apartment before they even went to the tapas bar ffs. Was the apartment door locked? yes no yes no ..make your fcukin mind up...just a friggin shame they can't seem to come up with a story they can stick to.

I still keep going back to the dogs...dogs are trained and trusted to do all manner of things without question...would you question a dog if it had just marked a bomb on a plane? Or someone carrying drugs? No...so why not trust a dog that has marked where a body has been? These dogs were trained to mark dead bodies and blood and did so...in the car, in the apartment and on the mothers clothes.....how much more do they need to charge someone with murder?

She examined a dead body before holiday in them clothes and took them clothes with her

 

And the smell in the boot was rubbish. Cuz we all take rubbish the tip on holiday

 

FFS get a grip people.

[whippet 99 2,613]

 

 

Am glad to be a part of a site with so many fantastic parents and caring people. Who live there lives perfectly every day i admire you all

same old ,same old .......everyone on the net got perfect morals , perfect families,...and perfect dogs .....

now my lads are 9 and 12 years old and I take the dogs across the field and if something like this happened while I was away , I would be in the same perdictament......but this could happen when there outside playing .......but that's ok......

ive heard different views and some say its no different than putting your kids to bed and going down stairs for a drink and meal.......a lot other mixed different opionions but to be honest I don't know what too make of it all.........too lock a child in a room to me is wrong and if the kids weren't in danger where they were sleeping then there would be no need to lock the door........but for there own actions of locking the child in the room proves that they were in danger......be honest with out knowing the real truth of circumstances its hard too evaluate and make decision............but I smell a rat when it comes to the parents , ...........something not right ,.......but time will reveal ,.hopefully

 

Would you have left your kids alone to walk the dogs across the fields if they were the same age as the Mcann kids were though? The little girl was 3.. Don't know how old the twins were, can't seem to find that on the net, anybody know?

 

 

EDIT:

 

Haven't managed to find out exactly how old they were but they were even younger than she was..

 

no I wouldn't.........who would.........?

its a different situation completely ,......ok not the same perdictament as these are different ............in fact totally different .......but no ones safe anywhere........

today I seen a little girl left in a car while her mother picked her brother/sister from school,.........that's wrong aswell.........

I don't agree with what the mcanns did........but I agree with GTE (for once).....that every body that comments on such debates are stating on the net the perfect solution and that they wouldn't do this and that,...because that's what people want too hear on the net........and in reality we all have done something silly with our children and its bull shite too anyone too differ,.........who hasn't left a child sleeping in the car from a day trip too nip into a shop.?......

who doesn't take there eyes off of kids playing in a public park.......?

kids are taken under peoples noses and despite how good you are with your parental skills ,..........it could happen too anyone......in a supermarket....in a ball park......

ok lets say the mcanns were at home in there big mansion and they decided to go out in there big garden for a drink ...........and whilst out there the same thing happened.....? yes its still a little different but you get what I mean..........and as I say anyone having too lock a child away , intentionally knows there putting them in harms way otherwise the door would be open.......

[South hams hunter 8,924]

Everyone keeps saying about letting kids out to play but do you allow a 3 year old out to play? I should hope not. I have a 2 year old and yhe furthest I go is to the doorstep for a fag. Gnasher you keep dodging the question, would you leave a 3 year old and hrr younget siblings to go out for a meal?

[the_stig 6,614]

would anyone leave there car sat on the drive unlocked overnight ...

[South hams hunter 8,924]

Everyone in the street I grew up left there cars unlocked for the simple fact it saved a window because if they wanted it they were getting it but just leave nothing in the car and no problem

[Malt 379]

To all those defending them for leaving her..

 

Have you ever been sat watching the TV with the misses while your young kids are in bed, only to hear a sickening thump on the bedroom floor followed by a child screaming in terror after falling out of bed in their sleep or climbing out of a cot? You run up the stairs, heart in mouth, dreading what you might find when you open the bedroom door? Imagine that happening while no-one was there, don't bear thinking about for me..

 

...or had to dislodge a chip or other food item or sweet from a kiddies mouth to stop them choking to death? You are in fact saving that kids life, but it don't make you a hero, it's just part of being a parent. Loads of kids sadly loose their lives in accidents in the home every year, even when the parents are there. What you don't hear about are the many thousand more every day incidents where parents save the lives of their children by just being there and doing what parents do..

 

That's what I think angers most people when you talk about them failing their kids.. They are doctors to boot, which means they should understand the dangers that young children face in day to day life, even more than most..

[the_stig 6,614]

would anyone leave there car sat on the drive unlocked overnight ...

my mate got into the habit of not locking his one night someone nicked it I did say to him you ought to have locked it --your right mate I`ve only got myself to blame

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

The fact is it wasnt a sober decision when they left the kids alone the night of Maddie's so called abduction. They had been drinking in the apartment before they even went to the tapas bar ffs. Was the apartment door locked? yes no yes no ..make your fcukin mind up...just a friggin shame they can't seem to come up with a story they can stick to.

I still keep going back to the dogs...dogs are trained and trusted to do all manner of things without question...would you question a dog if it had just marked a bomb on a plane? Or someone carrying drugs? No...so why not trust a dog that has marked where a body has been? These dogs were trained to mark dead bodies and blood and did so...in the car, in the apartment and on the mothers clothes.....how much more do they need to charge someone with murder?

You can't charge them cause what a dog smells ffs. They are there to help with the inquiry that's all. Still have to prove stuff.

So you honestly think they got a mark with the dog and they just forgot about it did they? Do you maybe think an investigation was done and no further enquiries were needed.??

Unless you think it was Scooby Doo that done the f***ing search!

[j j m 6,551]

there a usless pair of cu..s they dont come over as if they give a f..k

[Lab 10,979]

Nahhh they don't give a f**k......sitting there lapping up the attention! What a load of bollocks!! They've lost there daughter ffs....dying inside. I'd be surprised if they even sleep at night, cause Kate looks like she doesn't.

Would it be better if she comes on bawling her eyes out everytime a camera is pointed at her. You can be sure if she did all you would hear is "f***ing crocodile tears!!"

Canny win!!!!

[whippet 99 2,613]

a unfamiliar place would have natural dangers to any normal human being.......not knowing anyone or the place you would be overly causious.......

who ever took her was no robber ,...........they knew what they were after and they were watching for a while.......this aint no work of a spontaneous robber......

she was on order for some sick cnut (s).........

its one of the most prolifict crimes ..........

 

To all those defending them for leaving her..

 

Have you ever been sat watching the TV with the misses while your young kids are in bed, only to hear a sickening thump on the bedroom floor followed by a child screaming in terror after falling out of bed in their sleep or climbing out of a cot? You run up the stairs, heart in mouth, dreading what you might find when you open the bedroom door? Imagine that happening while no-one was there, don't bear thinking about for me..

 

...or had to dislodge a chip or other food item or sweet from a kiddies mouth to stop them choking to death? You are in fact saving that kids life, but it don't make you a hero, it's just part of being a parent. Loads of kids sadly loose their lives in accidents in the home every year, even when the parents are there. What you don't hear about are the many thousand more every day incidents where parents save the lives of their children by just being there and doing what parents do..

 

That's what I think angers most people when you talk about them failing their kids.. They are doctors to boot, which means they should understand the dangers that young children face in day to day life, even more than most..

the thing is every different profession affects lifes and children differently........now I know a few professionals who have there child in professional care and don't spend the time with there children through work...........money money........that's all there worried about and quality of life........ it don't mean they don't love or care ,......it means there parenting is very much different...........than that of your average family who don't work the long hours , are they entitled too have kids....? well theres no law its there decision ,.......and it was there decision to leave the children.........well after all they wouldn't see much of there children with there busy professions........anyway they broke no law .......we can judge whever its right or not,......of course we can........ but too many are judging on there own life styles..........

[paulus 26]

a unfamiliar place would have natural dangers to any normal human being.......not knowing anyone or the place you would be overly causious.......

who ever took her was no robber ,...........they knew what they were after and they were watching for a while.......this aint no work of a spontaneous robber......

she was on order for some sick cnut (s).........

its one of the most prolifict crimes ..........

 

To all those defending them for leaving her..

 

Have you ever been sat watching the TV with the misses while your young kids are in bed, only to hear a sickening thump on the bedroom floor followed by a child screaming in terror after falling out of bed in their sleep or climbing out of a cot? You run up the stairs, heart in mouth, dreading what you might find when you open the bedroom door? Imagine that happening while no-one was there, don't bear thinking about for me..

 

...or had to dislodge a chip or other food item or sweet from a kiddies mouth to stop them choking to death? You are in fact saving that kids life, but it don't make you a hero, it's just part of being a parent. Loads of kids sadly loose their lives in accidents in the home every year, even when the parents are there. What you don't hear about are the many thousand more every day incidents where parents save the lives of their children by just being there and doing what parents do..

 

That's what I think angers most people when you talk about them failing their kids.. They are doctors to boot, which means they should understand the dangers that young children face in day to day life, even more than most..

the thing is every different profession affects lifes and children differently........now I know a few professionals who have there child in professional care and don't spend the time with there children through work...........money money........that's all there worried about and quality of life........ it don't mean they don't love or care ,......it means there parenting is very much different...........than that of your average family who don't work the long hours , are they entitled too have kids....? well theres no law its there decision ,.......and it was there decision to leave the children.........well after all they wouldn't see much of there children with there busy professions........anyway they broke no law .......we can judge whever its right or not,......of course we can........ but too many are judging on there own life styles..........

The NSPCC site quotes the law as this

 

What the law says

The law does not set a minimum age at which children can be left alone. However, it is an offence to leave a child alone when doing so puts him or her at risk.

How to decide if you can safely leave a child alone

There are many important things to consider before you decide to leave a child alone. These include:

• the age of the child
• the child's level of maturity and understanding
• the place where the child will be left
• how long and how often the child will be left alone
• whether or not there are any other children with the child.

For example, most parents would think it is okay to leave a 16-year-old alone for the evening. But to leave them for a week would be unacceptable.

Many young children play outdoors with other children without supervision, most people would agree that this is an important part of growing up. To leave children outdoors for a considerable length of time though, or to allow them to wander off without knowing where they are going, would be unacceptable.

You are the best judge of your child's level of maturity and responsibility. Read our Home alone leaflet for more information.

also this

The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) advises that:

• children under the age of about 12 are rarely mature enough to be left alone for a long period of time
• children under the age of 16 should not be left alone overnight
• babies, toddlers and very young children should never be left alone

[Malt 379]

a unfamiliar place would have natural dangers to any normal human being.......not knowing anyone or the place you would be overly causious.......

who ever took her was no robber ,...........they knew what they were after and they were watching for a while.......this aint no work of a spontaneous robber......

she was on order for some sick cnut (s).........

its one of the most prolifict crimes ..........

 

To all those defending them for leaving her..

 

Have you ever been sat watching the TV with the misses while your young kids are in bed, only to hear a sickening thump on the bedroom floor followed by a child screaming in terror after falling out of bed in their sleep or climbing out of a cot? You run up the stairs, heart in mouth, dreading what you might find when you open the bedroom door? Imagine that happening while no-one was there, don't bear thinking about for me..

 

...or had to dislodge a chip or other food item or sweet from a kiddies mouth to stop them choking to death? You are in fact saving that kids life, but it don't make you a hero, it's just part of being a parent. Loads of kids sadly loose their lives in accidents in the home every year, even when the parents are there. What you don't hear about are the many thousand more every day incidents where parents save the lives of their children by just being there and doing what parents do..

 

That's what I think angers most people when you talk about them failing their kids.. They are doctors to boot, which means they should understand the dangers that young children face in day to day life, even more than most..

the thing is every different profession affects lifes and children differently........now I know a few professionals who have there child in professional care and don't spend the time with there children through work...........money money........that's all there worried about and quality of life........ it don't mean they don't love or care ,......it means there parenting is very much different...........than that of your average family who don't work the long hours , are they entitled too have kids....? well theres no law its there decision ,.......and it was there decision to leave the children.........well after all they wouldn't see much of there children with there busy professions........anyway they broke no law .......we can judge whever its right or not,......of course we can........ but too many are judging on there own life styles..........

 

Really? In this country at least it is against the law to leave ANY child in a situation that would put them at risk of harm or injury.. Now, you could hardly say a 3 year old and two younger children were mature enough to ensure their own safety while they're parents were absent could you?