stabba 10,745 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Born Hunter. Quick question...Probably been mentioned on here before about the dogs...If you were gettin on a plane and a sniffer dog with over 200 confirmed positive marks indicated a bomb on board..would you discredit the dog and still get on board??.Even if someone said "oh there was a bomb found on here 1 month ago so it must be the remenent scents from that". Dogs dont lie nor does this particular one. With 200 cases and 200 cases confirmed positive. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Born Hunter. Quick question...Probably been mentioned on here before about the dogs...If you were gettin on a plane and a sniffer dog with over 200 confirmed positive marks indicated a bomb on board..would you discredit the dog and still get on board??.Even if someone said "oh there was a bomb found on here 1 month ago so it must be the remenent scents from that". Dogs dont lie nor does this particular one. With 200 cases and 200 cases confirmed positive. f**k knows but I understand the point you are making. Does it mean that there absolutely is a bomb on board though? Then if the plain was searched and no bomb found does that mean the dog was right or wrong? It's simply inconclusive in the absence of other evidence. Thus we can't draw a conclusion from it alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Westy76 546 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Wonder if anybodies thought to give them a lie detector test They agreed to take one But the examiner was not allowed free reign and was told what he could and couldn't say then they pulled out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 But a blood AND a cadaver dog BOTH giving positive marks? one dog maybe but 2? My view is they are guilty of more than leaving the children alone. Kate even slept soundly on the night of the abduction...is that the sign of a frantic mother worried about her child?? i think not. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 But a blood AND a cadaver dog BOTH giving positive marks? one dog maybe but 2? My view is they are guilty of more than leaving the children alone. Kate even slept soundly on the night of the abduction...is that the sign of a frantic mother worried about her child?? i think not. Okay then, so here's my question to you, would you convict them on that if you were the sole jurer? We're all allowed opinions mind, but would you punish them for murder or whatever with what you think you know? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I personally think they are both guilty of little maddys death ,im pretty good at judging guilt is in their eyes . I believe they drugged them to sleep that night and gave Madeleine too much , when they found her they hid her body im positive they will find her body burried and tests will show it was drug relatedVery risky letting there friend go and check a dead bairn wouldn't you say? If there friends saw her laying on the bed that would of been enough they would of been happy and left So you think they would take that chance and not just check themselves?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I've Looked At This Case And. I Feel Devestated For The Family . . BUT . . Seeing The Footage Off The Dogs I Can See Where Some People Are Thinking As Im Struggling Here to Find A Reason Why There Brushing Off How The Dogs Reacted . . As Id Believe A Dog Over A Human All Day Long !! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 But a blood AND a cadaver dog BOTH giving positive marks? one dog maybe but 2? My view is they are guilty of more than leaving the children alone. Kate even slept soundly on the night of the abduction...is that the sign of a frantic mother worried about her child?? i think not. Okay then, so here's my question to you, would you convict them on that if you were the sole jurer? We're all allowed opinions mind, but would you punish them for murder or whatever with what you think you know? I reckon if tried in spain then they'd be found guilty in spain on the evidence found over there. Thats not counting the evidence that would be gained if the british government allowed certain material to be released such as mobile phone records and bank records. Dont forget that now the McGanns have now the Head of the Roman Catholic Church on their side. The Pope. How do you get the Pope on side ffs. Influencial friends in VERY VERY high places . Meeting with the British PM?. This should have been a simple abduction case according to the Spanish police but has been hampered at every turn by either the McGanns or their very influencial friends. When things like this happen then of course its natural that the police in spain and alot of the public are going to be very suspicious indeed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,252 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 someone sid in the other thread. he hired the car the day after? and it was a dead fish and rubbish the dog smelt, well for one i can see why maybe he would hire a car, to look for his kid. although i think most parents would be in bits and advised not to drive.and if they didnt,i sure as f**k wouldnt be taking hotel rubbish to a tip,and stopping to buy fish I read that it was 20 days later they rented that car. Also allegdelly apparently sea bass can give a false marker with a cadaver dog, and allegdelly apparently Gerry McCann later blogged that one of the twins loved eating.......Sea bass while in Porto..... Clever Gerry..... Wonder if anybodies thought to give them a lie detector test They agreed to take one But the examiner was not allowed free reign and was told what he could and couldn't say then they pulled out. I read that they also agreed to hair samples being taken from the twins (drugging), but then pulled out. I cant help thinking that when the truth eventually comes out, it will be like the end of scooby doo, when they pull the mask off and the culprit says, "if it hadnt been for you pesky kids I wouldhave gotten away with it" But the pesky kids are the folks that are asking the niggling questions. Also.. Gerry McCann was apparently allegedlly on some health commitee with or for Gordon Browns brother all basically pro health around nuclear power plants.......! Think they might both along with aul Gordon be freemasons............. Gerry seems well connected......... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Westy76 546 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) someone sid in the other thread. he hired the car the day after? and it was a dead fish and rubbish the dog smelt, well for one i can see why maybe he would hire a car, to look for his kid. although i think most parents would be in bits and advised not to drive.and if they didnt,i sure as f**k wouldnt be taking hotel rubbish to a tip,and stopping to buy fish I read that it was 20 days later they rented that car.Also allegdelly apparently sea bass can give a false marker with a cadaver dog, and allegdelly apparently Gerry McCann later blogged that one of the twins loved eating.......Sea bass while in Porto..... Clever Gerry..... Wonder if anybodies thought to give them a lie detector test They agreed to take one But the examiner was not allowed free reign and was told what he could and couldn't say then they pulled out. I read that they also agreed to hair samples being taken from the twins (drugging), but then pulled out. I cant help thinking that when the truth eventually comes out, it will be like the end of scooby doo, when they pull the mask off and the culprit says, "if it hadnt been for you pesky kids I wouldhave gotten away with it" But the pesky kids are the folks that are asking the niggling questions. Also.. Gerry McCann was apparently allegedlly on some health commitee with or for Gordon Browns brother all basically pro health around nuclear power plants.......! Think they might both along with aul Gordon be freemasons............. Gerry seems well connected......... Yep both Freemasons and Gordon brown sorted the meeting with the pope,this is worth a read to.http://www.mccannfiles.com/id393.html Funny how a lot of important info is missing from that file?? Edited October 16, 2013 by Westy76 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Anyway i won't say much more because i'll have the McCann's legal team booting my front door in.....woof woof motherfuckers make a change from it being your back door 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Just been discussing this with a mate. Dog marks bed, clothes, "behind sofa", car. Now unless this friend at the dinner table who checked on Maddie at 9.30 was lying and he never saw her in the bed can someone draw up a possible chain of events on how all these places were identified as having a dead body? I'll try first........Gerry goes in to check on Maddie at 9 and realises she is dead with drug overdose( calpol seemingly.)....Now he has a decision to make. Does he go outside and raise the alarm like any normal parent or does he conjure up some story himself and fake an abduction? So what he has to do now is go back to the dinner table, act normal while telling Kate that Maddie is dead. She has to act normal too for the next 30 mins. At 9.30 a friend decides he will check on Maddie. Knowing she is dead both Gerry and Kate decide that they will take a chance on him not checking in depth and will get away with it. At 10 Kate has to go back to the apartment and she has to stage the abduction. How does she do this.... Of course... Hide Maddie down the back of the couch because no way will there friends or the police that's on there way will look there. Then after the police have gone they wait till the next day, hire a car and sneak Maddies body out into the boot and dispose of it somehow? Anyone got any better ideas on how it went down? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,062 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Gnash do you not think with there wealth they should have paid to have they're children in the night crèche... Or maybe clubbed in with they're friends and had both sets of children baby sat by an approved Nannie service?? After all what's the point in being wealthy and successful if you can't use your wealth to look out for your family's best interests... Not often I see a post of yours I don't agree with but I think your way off the mark here. They are a pair of tight, snobby c**ts who knew better.... No question about it i couldnt agree more mate they definately should of done that ............I say again,im not defending the monumental f**k up they made....im defending the right to make a monumental f**k up without getting hung as a punishment . I was reading something the other day that got me thinking.......The Home Office records state that an average of 400 children are abducted on British streets every year.......so is that 400 sets of parents who deserve hanging ?.....Your kid doesnt get abducted if your on the ball right ?........These perfect parents who would have us believe they never take their eyes off their kid ......should the little Bulger kids mother hang for allowing a 2 year old to be marched from a shopping centre in broad daylight ?.....April Jones ? and many others ?..............How about the many kids who dont happen to get abducted and killed even though the parents took their eye off the ball at some stage...............or is it just the Mccanns blood we all want because they were wealthy doctors ! Edited October 16, 2013 by gnasher16 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,062 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I left my little girl in the garage at the weekend for 10 seconds while I went and fetched one of the dogs from its pen. She climbed on a stool and fell off. She was alright but I felt guilty for taking my eye off her. Thats a parenting mistake. What if your little girl had not fell from the stool........what if you fetched the dogs,came back took your girl in the house and had a nice evening playing together........................................................does that cease to be a mistake ? ...................or....god forbid your daughter suffered a terrible injury when she fell does it then make it a worse mistake ?.......Luck plays a huge part in most bad decisions......we all do it every day.....i crossed the road without looking today and i didnt happen to get hit by a car....big mistake or little mistake ?...................would of been a f****n massive mistake if i was now dead wouldnt it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robin hood 109 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 crossing a road is different to leaving three young kids alone on holiday and going drinking,kids had no choice you do your an adult Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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