Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 f***ing hell, I pray to Christ if I'm ever stood defending myself in the old bailey I have a more grounded jury than a THL one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 f*****g hell, I pray to Christ if I'm ever stood defending myself in the old bailey I have a more grounded jury than a THL one! why would you think the comments here wouldn't reflect the population in general, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Every time the mcanns hit the news I'm minded to think of the quote "methinks thou dost protest too much" 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 f*****g hell, I pray to Christ if I'm ever stood defending myself in the old bailey I have a more grounded jury than a THL one! why would you think the comments here wouldn't reflect the population in general, I wouldn't want to be in front of any jury of regular folks off of the street Paulus. It's one thing saying "this is suspicious" it's another thing entirely saying "they're obviously guilty, hang em". FFS you only have to get talking about conspiracies to realise how speculative people are when it comes to 'facts'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 well i didnt watch the interview,but im guessing she nor him made any reference they were in the wrong? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 f*****g hell, I pray to Christ if I'm ever stood defending myself in the old bailey I have a more grounded jury than a THL one! why would you think the comments here wouldn't reflect the population in general, I wouldn't want to be in front of any jury of regular folks off of the street Paulus. It's one thing saying "this is suspicious" it's another thing entirely saying "they're obviously guilty, hang em". FFS you only have to get talking about conspiracies to realise how speculative people are when it comes to 'facts'. so what folk would you want ?out of touch old duffers that sit daily on the bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keeps 403 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 well i didnt watch the interview,but im guessing she nor him made any reference they were in the wrong? BBC News "Mrs McCann said: "We're not the ones that have done something wrong here. It's the person who's gone into that apartment and taken a little girl away from her family."" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24528530 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 f*****g hell, I pray to Christ if I'm ever stood defending myself in the old bailey I have a more grounded jury than a THL one! why would you think the comments here wouldn't reflect the population in general, I wouldn't want to be in front of any jury of regular folks off of the street Paulus. It's one thing saying "this is suspicious" it's another thing entirely saying "they're obviously guilty, hang em". FFS you only have to get talking about conspiracies to realise how speculative people are when it comes to 'facts'. so what folk would you want ?out of touch old duffers that sit daily on the bench. People that understand what is proof and what is suspicious evidence Scot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 not the same but very similar case http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_JonBen%C3%A9t_Ramsey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Read the first couple of pages, can't be arsed reading the whole thing. Couple of things spring to mind, I can't believe certain people are passing off what they did as a simple parenting mistake. A parenting mistake is taking your eye of your kid for SECONDS and not noticing one climbs on a chair and falls off, going out to a restaurant leaving your children completely and utterly unattended is not a parenting mistake, it's pure and simple neglect. I find it baffling that people are actually defending that and making out that all parents have made similar 'mistakes' at some point......no!! I am a parent, and I know loads of other people who are parents, and as far as I'm aware I don't know anyone who would even consider leaving children of that age alone while you go out, it wouldn't even cross most peoples minds!! If I'm having a bbq and my daughter is asleep upstairs we have the baby monitor on outside even though it's a secure house and is fully locked up. Even if you take away the kidnap aspect, a normal person couldn't bare to think of their child crying alone in the apartment while you're away enjoying yourself, it's possibly one of the most unbelievable cases of selfishness I've ever heard! 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 f*****g hell, I pray to Christ if I'm ever stood defending myself in the old bailey I have a more grounded jury than a THL one! why would you think the comments here wouldn't reflect the population in general, I wouldn't want to be in front of any jury of regular folks off of the street Paulus. It's one thing saying "this is suspicious" it's another thing entirely saying "they're obviously guilty, hang em". FFS you only have to get talking about conspiracies to realise how speculative people are when it comes to 'facts'. so what folk would you want ?out of touch old duffers that sit daily on the bench. People that understand what is proof and what is suspicious evidence Scot. fair point,but isnt a juries duty to sum up all the evidence.and then make a decision. lets be honest here there plenty doubt in this case as to there innocence. i have my own opinion about them,and there arrogance from day one made me despise them. see if that had been my mate,and he said look i f****d up totally. what i did was wrong and i will need to suffer this for the rest of my life.but please dont make my stupidity cloud the hunt for my daughter. i would prob look at him/them diffrent. personally i would have been racked with guilt and would have been in bits. no writing books and holding press confrences,and hiring a publicist,who turns out to be a rapist himself.there no the best couple for being a good judge of character are they?what about thier swinging friends they aint said very much,who were they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sue 1 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I personally think they are both guilty of little maddys death ,im pretty good at judging guilt is in their eyes . I believe they drugged them to sleep that night and gave Madeleine too much , when they found her they hid her body im positive they will find her body burried and tests will show it was drug related Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 People that understand what is proof and what is suspicious evidence Scot. fair point,but isnt a juries duty to sum up all the evidence.and then make a decision. lets be honest here there plenty doubt in this case as to there innocence. i have my own opinion about them,and there arrogance from day one made me despise them. see if that had been my mate,and he said look i f****d up totally. what i did was wrong and i will need to suffer this for the rest of my life.but please dont make my stupidity cloud the hunt for my daughter. i would prob look at him/them diffrent. personally i would have been racked with guilt and would have been in bits. no writing books and holding press confrences They can't do that Scot, they do that then everybody hates them and they get banged up and everybody forgets about their little girl. I'm not saying they haven't monumentally f****d up but when making any judgement you have to retain objectivity, everybody has a 'theory' of what happened and based on these dreams they've made their judgements of what's happened and who's guilty. You see the same with any high profile tragedy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 f*****g hell, I pray to Christ if I'm ever stood defending myself in the old bailey I have a more grounded jury than a THL one! why would you think the comments here wouldn't reflect the population in general, I wouldn't want to be in front of any jury of regular folks off of the street Paulus. It's one thing saying "this is suspicious" it's another thing entirely saying "they're obviously guilty, hang em". FFS you only have to get talking about conspiracies to realise how speculative people are when it comes to 'facts'. so what folk would you want ?out of touch old duffers that sit daily on the bench. People that understand what is proof and what is suspicious evidence Scot. fair point,but isnt a juries duty to sum up all the evidence.and then make a decision. lets be honest here there plenty doubt in this case as to there innocence. i have my own opinion about them,and there arrogance from day one made me despise them. see if that had been my mate,and he said look i f****d up totally. what i did was wrong and i will need to suffer this for the rest of my life.but please dont make my stupidity cloud the hunt for my daughter. i would prob look at him/them diffrent. personally i would have been racked with guilt and would have been in bits. no writing books and holding press confrences,and hiring a publicist,who turns out to be a rapist himself.there no the best couple for being a good judge of character are they?what about thier swinging friends they aint said very much,who were they? im not so sure it is arrogance or just very cold hearted . there doesent seem to be a lot of emotion there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 People that understand what is proof and what is suspicious evidence Scot. fair point,but isnt a juries duty to sum up all the evidence.and then make a decision. lets be honest here there plenty doubt in this case as to there innocence. i have my own opinion about them,and there arrogance from day one made me despise them. see if that had been my mate,and he said look i f****d up totally. what i did was wrong and i will need to suffer this for the rest of my life.but please dont make my stupidity cloud the hunt for my daughter. i would prob look at him/them diffrent. personally i would have been racked with guilt and would have been in bits. no writing books and holding press confrences They can't do that Scot, they do that then everybody hates them and they get banged up and everybody forgets about their little girl. I'm not saying they haven't monumentally f****d up but when making any judgement you have to retain objectivity, everybody has a 'theory' of what happened and based on these dreams they've made their judgements of what's happened and who's guilty. You see the same with any high profile tragedy. I try to keep an open mind on it....but it's quite hard to when Kate answered most of the initial questions she was asked with "no comment", people don't generally answer no comment when their child has been kidnapped, doesn't make any sense whatsoever if they had no involvement in her disappearance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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