The Mccanns

[Malt 379]

Paul beat me too it..

[Harlequin 2]

Exactly hot meat. They should have there kids taken from them

That's what we used todo. I never wanted him out of my sight. Even when we employed a baby sitter (most hotels offer this) I was checking every 10 minutes not every hour for gawds sake. Especially in a foreign country.

 

It's just good basic parenting, and common sense.

 

HOWEVER, I assure they have told themselves this a Million times already, so no need for us to make it worse for them. Just hope new parents learn the lesson.....

[whippet 99 2,613]

 

a unfamiliar place would have natural dangers to any normal human being.......not knowing anyone or the place you would be overly causious.......

who ever took her was no robber ,...........they knew what they were after and they were watching for a while.......this aint no work of a spontaneous robber......

she was on order for some sick cnut (s).........

its one of the most prolifict crimes ..........

 

To all those defending them for leaving her..

 

Have you ever been sat watching the TV with the misses while your young kids are in bed, only to hear a sickening thump on the bedroom floor followed by a child screaming in terror after falling out of bed in their sleep or climbing out of a cot? You run up the stairs, heart in mouth, dreading what you might find when you open the bedroom door? Imagine that happening while no-one was there, don't bear thinking about for me..

 

...or had to dislodge a chip or other food item or sweet from a kiddies mouth to stop them choking to death? You are in fact saving that kids life, but it don't make you a hero, it's just part of being a parent. Loads of kids sadly loose their lives in accidents in the home every year, even when the parents are there. What you don't hear about are the many thousand more every day incidents where parents save the lives of their children by just being there and doing what parents do..

 

That's what I think angers most people when you talk about them failing their kids.. They are doctors to boot, which means they should understand the dangers that young children face in day to day life, even more than most..

the thing is every different profession affects lifes and children differently........now I know a few professionals who have there child in professional care and don't spend the time with there children through work...........money money........that's all there worried about and quality of life........ it don't mean they don't love or care ,......it means there parenting is very much different...........than that of your average family who don't work the long hours , are they entitled too have kids....? well theres no law its there decision ,.......and it was there decision to leave the children.........well after all they wouldn't see much of there children with there busy professions........anyway they broke no law .......we can judge whever its right or not,......of course we can........ but too many are judging on there own life styles..........

The NSPCC site quotes the law as this

 

What the law says

The law does not set a minimum age at which children can be left alone. However, it is an offence to leave a child alone when doing so puts him or her at risk.

How to decide if you can safely leave a child alone

There are many important things to consider before you decide to leave a child alone. These include:

• the age of the child
• the child's level of maturity and understanding
• the place where the child will be left
• how long and how often the child will be left alone
• whether or not there are any other children with the child.

For example, most parents would think it is okay to leave a 16-year-old alone for the evening. But to leave them for a week would be unacceptable.

Many young children play outdoors with other children without supervision, most people would agree that this is an important part of growing up. To leave children outdoors for a considerable length of time though, or to allow them to wander off without knowing where they are going, would be unacceptable.

You are the best judge of your child's level of maturity and responsibility. Read our Home alone leaflet for more information.

also this

The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) advises that:

• children under the age of about 12 are rarely mature enough to be left alone for a long period of time
• children under the age of 16 should not be left alone overnight
• babies, toddlers and very young children should never be left alone

 

so why aren't they being charged ?..........

its as bad as the hunting ban as its left wide open all angles........

defy being left alone.......? in the same house ..........same room ? ...........its rubbish

[paulus 26]

 

 

a unfamiliar place would have natural dangers to any normal human being.......not knowing anyone or the place you would be overly causious.......

who ever took her was no robber ,...........they knew what they were after and they were watching for a while.......this aint no work of a spontaneous robber......

she was on order for some sick cnut (s).........

its one of the most prolifict crimes ..........

 

To all those defending them for leaving her..

 

Have you ever been sat watching the TV with the misses while your young kids are in bed, only to hear a sickening thump on the bedroom floor followed by a child screaming in terror after falling out of bed in their sleep or climbing out of a cot? You run up the stairs, heart in mouth, dreading what you might find when you open the bedroom door? Imagine that happening while no-one was there, don't bear thinking about for me..

 

...or had to dislodge a chip or other food item or sweet from a kiddies mouth to stop them choking to death? You are in fact saving that kids life, but it don't make you a hero, it's just part of being a parent. Loads of kids sadly loose their lives in accidents in the home every year, even when the parents are there. What you don't hear about are the many thousand more every day incidents where parents save the lives of their children by just being there and doing what parents do..

 

That's what I think angers most people when you talk about them failing their kids.. They are doctors to boot, which means they should understand the dangers that young children face in day to day life, even more than most..

the thing is every different profession affects lifes and children differently........now I know a few professionals who have there child in professional care and don't spend the time with there children through work...........money money........that's all there worried about and quality of life........ it don't mean they don't love or care ,......it means there parenting is very much different...........than that of your average family who don't work the long hours , are they entitled too have kids....? well theres no law its there decision ,.......and it was there decision to leave the children.........well after all they wouldn't see much of there children with there busy professions........anyway they broke no law .......we can judge whever its right or not,......of course we can........ but too many are judging on there own life styles..........

The NSPCC site quotes the law as this

 

What the law says

The law does not set a minimum age at which children can be left alone. However, it is an offence to leave a child alone when doing so puts him or her at risk.

How to decide if you can safely leave a child alone

There are many important things to consider before you decide to leave a child alone. These include:

• the age of the child
• the child's level of maturity and understanding
• the place where the child will be left
• how long and how often the child will be left alone
• whether or not there are any other children with the child.

For example, most parents would think it is okay to leave a 16-year-old alone for the evening. But to leave them for a week would be unacceptable.

Many young children play outdoors with other children without supervision, most people would agree that this is an important part of growing up. To leave children outdoors for a considerable length of time though, or to allow them to wander off without knowing where they are going, would be unacceptable.

You are the best judge of your child's level of maturity and responsibility. Read our Home alone leaflet for more information.

also this

The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) advises that:

• children under the age of about 12 are rarely mature enough to be left alone for a long period of time
• children under the age of 16 should not be left alone overnight
• babies, toddlers and very young children should never be left alone

 

so why aren't they being charged ?..........

its as bad as the hunting ban as its left wide open all angles........

defy being left alone.......? in the same house ..........same room ? ...........its rubbish

 

i don't think down the boozer would be a great defense

[South hams hunter 8,921]

However you dress it up, whatever you say about them they were negligent !!

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

a unfamiliar place would have natural dangers to any normal human being.......not knowing anyone or the place you would be overly causious.......

who ever took her was no robber ,...........they knew what they were after and they were watching for a while.......this aint no work of a spontaneous robber......

she was on order for some sick cnut (s).........

its one of the most prolifict crimes ..........

 

 

To all those defending them for leaving her..

 

Have you ever been sat watching the TV with the misses while your young kids are in bed, only to hear a sickening thump on the bedroom floor followed by a child screaming in terror after falling out of bed in their sleep or climbing out of a cot? You run up the stairs, heart in mouth, dreading what you might find when you open the bedroom door? Imagine that happening while no-one was there, don't bear thinking about for me..

 

...or had to dislodge a chip or other food item or sweet from a kiddies mouth to stop them choking to death? You are in fact saving that kids life, but it don't make you a hero, it's just part of being a parent. Loads of kids sadly loose their lives in accidents in the home every year, even when the parents are there. What you don't hear about are the many thousand more every day incidents where parents save the lives of their children by just being there and doing what parents do..

 

That's what I think angers most people when you talk about them failing their kids.. They are doctors to boot, which means they should understand the dangers that young children face in day to day life, even more than most..

the thing is every different profession affects lifes and children differently........now I know a few professionals who have there child in professional care and don't spend the time with there children through work...........money money........that's all there worried about and quality of life........ it don't mean they don't love or care ,......it means there parenting is very much different...........than that of your average family who don't work the long hours , are they entitled too have kids....? well theres no law its there decision ,.......and it was there decision to leave the children.........well after all they wouldn't see much of there children with there busy professions........anyway they broke no law .......we can judge whever its right or not,......of course we can........ but too many are judging on there own life styles..........

Really? In this country at least it is against the law to leave ANY child in a situation that would put them at risk of harm or injury.. Now, you could hardly say a 3 year old and two younger children were mature enough to ensure their own safety while they're parents were absent could you?

What about the law in Portugal, is that the same?

[South hams hunter 8,921]

Lab whether or not it is doesnt make it acceptable, dog fighting isnt illegal in some countries but doesn't mean you find it acceptable does it?

[Dosser 52]

However you dress it up, whatever you say about them they were negligent !!

At the very least, it's not definite that the poor child was abducted. . . . . .despite the media's efforts to convince everyone of such.

[Lab 10,979]

Lab whether or not it is doesnt make it acceptable, dog fighting isnt illegal in some countries but doesn't mean you find it acceptable does it?

We can all pick laws that we don't agree with mate. We can hardly hold the UK in high regard when it comes to setting laws. This place is a f***ing joke.

[Malt 379]

Not sure about that Lab, there was talk of abandonment charges at one point that carried a possible 10 year jail sentence.. Me and you are both UK citizens, if I stabbed you abroad and came home or vice versa, you reckon we'd get away with it with the British establishment? It would be a crime against a Brit committed by another Brit, don't think they'd bother sending either of us back to Portugal or wherever it happened for the trial because thats where the crime happened..

 

Maybe that's why they're being so guarded in public and saying they don't feel guilty, they've been briefed to say as much because there's still a chance they could legally hang themselves..

[Lab 10,979]

Not sure about that mate, there was talk of abandonment charges at one point that carried a possible 10 year jail sentence.. Me and you are both UK citizens, if I stabbed you abroad and came home or vice versa, you reckon we'd get away with it with the British establishment? It would be a crime against a Brit committed by another Brit, don't think they'd bother sending either of us back to Portugal for the trial because thats where the crime happened.. Maybe that's why they're being so guarded in public and saying they don't feel guilty, they've been briefed to say as much..

I don't know the politics of it mate, that's where I begin to loose track. But it makes sense to me that they are told when and what to say.

[South hams hunter 8,921]

 

Lab whether or not it is doesnt make it acceptable, dog fighting isnt illegal in some countries but doesn't mean you find it acceptable does it?

We can all pick laws that we don't agree with mate. We can hardly hold the UK in high regard when it comes to setting laws. This place is a f*****g joke.

I know that lab but they put there child at risk and it came off badly so dont see how they can be defended

[Hot Meat 3,109]

Thread should be deleted now imo, both camps obviously feel strongly about this an neither is gonna change there mind, just going in circles now.....

[Lab 10,979]

Thread should be deleted now imo, both camps obviously feel strongly about this an neither is gonna change there mind, just going in circles now.....

Good debate though if it's kept civil....:-)

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Thread should be deleted now imo, both camps obviously feel strongly about this an neither is gonna change there mind, just going in circles now.....

 

why. Dotty. Dont click on it simple. Its a debate that needs to be aired. Every one has opinions