bird 9,868 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 When you look at it the fox isn't that fast, he can't turn amazingly well like a hare ( unless it's one of them super supple cubs that are flying round at the moment!) and he certainly isn't big and heavy. All the dog needs is the speed to get up there quick before he hits cover and the technique of dispatching them rapidly. I have no qualms at all about using the lighter types like mine, they are hard as iron and strike whole heartedly with no fear. After all a decent border x lakeland terrier can snuff a charlie in a hole on his tod so any half decent lurcher should be more than a match for one on the run. yeh you carnt get away from the fact, that a pat or jack of 16lb can kill a fox in a earth, so really a 50-60lb lurcher what ever the x should kill a 18lb dog fox on the run. But as above foxes are very agile, and can turn as good as any hare, and most can get away very easy, beddyxs aere supposed to be good fox dogs, i am not keen on the x had one couldnt get on with it, but suppose all dogs are differnt. The bullxs took off and they are prob the best x on things that bite back today 2 Quote Link to post
Stigodadump 64 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 When you look at it the fox isn't that fast, he can't turn amazingly well like a hare ( unless it's one of them super supple cubs that are flying round at the moment!) and he certainly isn't big and heavy. All the dog needs is the speed to get up there quick before he hits cover and the technique of dispatching them rapidly. I have no qualms at all about using the lighter types like mine, they are hard as iron and strike whole heartedly with no fear. After all a decent border x lakeland terrier can snuff a charlie in a hole on his tod so any half decent lurcher should be more than a match for one on the run. so where does your dog take it by to kill it quick. what technique does a beddy/whippet use to "dispatch rapidly" Most of my dogs go for the neck and roll with 'em then shake them. One bitch isn't fussy where she grabs them and tends take a bit of punishment for her troubles but she will have the pipe work on display within 30 seconds of a strike. It might not be fast enough for some folk but personally I aint too fussed what other people think. I have seen two adult foxes dragging a ewe with a prolapse down and literally eating her alive so I don't tend to be full of compassion when it comes to dealing with Mr Reynard. 4 Quote Link to post
reilly1 9 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 When you look at it the fox isn't that fast, he can't turn amazingly well like a hare ( unless it's one of them super supple cubs that are flying round at the moment!) and he certainly isn't big and heavy. All the dog needs is the speed to get up there quick before he hits cover and the technique of dispatching them rapidly. I have no qualms at all about using the lighter types like mine, they are hard as iron and strike whole heartedly with no fear. After all a decent border x lakeland terrier can snuff a charlie in a hole on his tod so any half decent lurcher should be more than a match for one on the run. so where does your dog take it by to kill it quick. what technique does a beddy/whippet use to "dispatch rapidly" Most of my dogs go for the neck and roll with 'em then shake them. One bitch isn't fussy where she grabs them and tends take a bit of punishment for her troubles but she will have the pipe work on display within 30 seconds of a strike. It might not be fast enough for some folk but personally I aint too fussed what other people think. I have seen two adult foxes dragging a ewe with a prolapse down and literally eating her alive so I don't tend to be full of compassion when it comes to dealing with Mr Reynard. Quote Link to post
reilly1 9 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Are your beddy whips 1st crosses? Any pics Quote Link to post
NickF 50 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Mine are no more than 19" and slam 'em hard and will do it repeatedly. It does tend to make em a bit like a crocodile on the bunnies though one of the stigs lines 19tts Thats a cracking looking dog mate 1 Quote Link to post
Stigodadump 64 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Here are some of my dogs, the mother and father of NL's Tes and a half sister. All bred bedi whippet or 1st cross x 1st cross .Also the latest pup that I am bringing on, she is 51/2 months now and starting to look a bit more like she should! Sorry for crap quality I aint much good with a camera. 13 Quote Link to post
Banter 1,751 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 willy looking well an produces a nice pup Quote Link to post
Stigodadump 64 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Aye he has thrown some crackers. He needs a dam good brushing at the moment but since a recent kennel fight he isn't keen on me doing it. I will have to muzzle him to get him tidied up He nailed two last night so he isn't coming out tonight, going well for a pensioner! 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,077 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Here are some of my dogs, the mother and father of NL's Tes and a half sister. All bred bedi whippet or 1st cross x 1st cross .Also the latest pup that I am bringing on, she is 51/2 months now and starting to look a bit more like she should! Sorry for crap quality I aint much good with a camera. looking good Edited October 12, 2013 by nothernlite Quote Link to post
Moorside 642 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Smart dogs there stig, and northernlights tess is definitely the best looking beddy whippet ive seen she just does carry some muscle. 3 Quote Link to post
darbo 4,774 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 what line/lines of beddy do you have or use. do you breed to ped whippets or non ped if you dont mind me asking.?some cracking dogs you have. Quote Link to post
Stigodadump 64 Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 I have been breeding off proven working stock not pedigree or stuff people have been talking up. My pal has bought in a cracking looking Beddy to breed in later on when we see how he turns out. It's no good breeding shoite there is enough of it out there. Having said that if one of these crosses doesn't make the grade their is always the pet homes for them because they tend to appeal to folk, I blame Bill Maynard in Heartbeat! Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,468 Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 who runs heavy built lurchers, what x and if you had it pre ban, was any good on quarry other then rabbit. pics welcome Why dont you start this thread again but dont let it turn into a BEDDY thread. 2 Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 I prefer a heavier build for all round dogs lamp dogs. It can be a fine line though. Quote Link to post
Moorside 642 Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Ive said it before on here it surprises me that more lads dont go for these smaller types. Because bowling round with a "heavy lurcher" is asking for a night in the cells where I live. Quote Link to post
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