gnasher16 30,024 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I grew up with mike tyson watching vids of his progress to title against Trevor Berbick, thats like Rocky to a young lad with a latent interest in boxing, Ive been saying for years a lot of " our generation " (40,s/50 year olds ) boxing followers have an untrue image of Tyson as a fighter for that exact reason......as impressionable youngsters new to the sport many people will of been blown away by the sensational impact Tyson had on boxing and that stays with you over time.........without sounding like a snobby f****r i dont have the hero worship attitude to Tyson a lot of people have i see him as being in the right place at the right time with the right style to make an impression......as a purist i wouldnt put him anywhere near the top 20 fighters of all time,yet still the impact he made is undeniable. 100% he opened my eyes and my interest in that weightclass at the time, when you look back and see some of the greats , yeah I think he would not of cut the mustard with a good few of them, however like you say he did hav a massive impact and someone as focused as he was at the time Cus Dmato had him under his wing anyone would of had to have taken him seriously, one mean mutha............. right place and right time? yeah I reckon your 100% spot on with that , slick marketing backed up with raw power and agression, Lewis again right time right place, at the end of the day they can only foght who is around at the time and will sign up to get it on, the polotics of the game stink to high heaven, I reckon Tyson Fury could be on for same right place right time meself, no taking owt away from any of them at all, in heavyweight one peachy placed punch can change the landscape...................... I always mind a picture I see of Tyson stood in ring over floored opponent, with ref, canny mnind who it was, but the angle its shot from he looks like a giant, seen it in a photography place once masive print framed wish I had bought it , awesome shot it was Everything about the whole Tyson story at the time pulled at the heart strings.......street kid,trainer dying etc etc it must of made such an impression on impressionable people................and dont forget perhaps most importantly.....this was all at a time when boxing was there for everyone old young rich or poor to watch FREE on itv !!!!.......so you didnt even have to be a boxing fan to know his life story and that impacts on people.......dont get me wrong i find him a fascinating character but as a pure fighter i dont get carried away with what he did in the worst era in heavyweight boxing history. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I grew up with mike tyson watching vids of his progress to title against Trevor Berbick, thats like Rocky to a young lad with a latent interest in boxing, Ive been saying for years a lot of " our generation " (40,s/50 year olds ) boxing followers have an untrue image of Tyson as a fighter for that exact reason......as impressionable youngsters new to the sport many people will of been blown away by the sensational impact Tyson had on boxing and that stays with you over time.........without sounding like a snobby f****r i dont have the hero worship attitude to Tyson a lot of people have i see him as being in the right place at the right time with the right style to make an impression......as a purist i wouldnt put him anywhere near the top 20 fighters of all time,yet still the impact he made is undeniable. 100% he opened my eyes and my interest in that weightclass at the time, when you look back and see some of the greats , yeah I think he would not of cut the mustard with a good few of them, however like you say he did hav a massive impact and someone as focused as he was at the time Cus Dmato had him under his wing anyone would of had to have taken him seriously, one mean mutha............. right place and right time? yeah I reckon your 100% spot on with that , slick marketing backed up with raw power and agression, Lewis again right time right place, at the end of the day they can only foght who is around at the time and will sign up to get it on, the polotics of the game stink to high heaven, I reckon Tyson Fury could be on for same right place right time meself, no taking owt away from any of them at all, in heavyweight one peachy placed punch can change the landscape...................... I always mind a picture I see of Tyson stood in ring over floored opponent, with ref, canny mnind who it was, but the angle its shot from he looks like a giant, seen it in a photography place once masive print framed wish I had bought it , awesome shot it was Everything about the whole Tyson story at the time pulled at the heart strings.......street kid,trainer dying etc etc it must of made such an impression on impressionable people................and dont forget perhaps most importantly.....this was all at a time when boxing was there for everyone old young rich or poor to watch FREE on itv !!!!.......so you didnt even have to be a boxing fan to know his life story and that impacts on people.......dont get me wrong i find him a fascinating character but as a pure fighter i dont get carried away with what he did in the worst era in heavyweight boxing history. Do you think that era was worse than it is today Gnash? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I grew up with mike tyson watching vids of his progress to title against Trevor Berbick, thats like Rocky to a young lad with a latent interest in boxing,Ive been saying for years a lot of " our generation " (40,s/50 year olds ) boxing followers have an untrue image of Tyson as a fighter for that exact reason......as impressionable youngsters new to the sport many people will of been blown away by the sensational impact Tyson had on boxing and that stays with you over time.........without sounding like a snobby f****r i dont have the hero worship attitude to Tyson a lot of people have i see him as being in the right place at the right time with the right style to make an impression......as a purist i wouldnt put him anywhere near the top 20 fighters of all time,yet still the impact he made is undeniable.100% he opened my eyes and my interest in that weightclass at the time, when you look back and see some of the greats , yeah I think he would not of cut the mustard with a good few of them, however like you say he did hav a massive impact and someone as focused as he was at the time Cus Dmato had him under his wing anyone would of had to have taken him seriously, one mean mutha............. right place and right time? yeah I reckon your 100% spot on with that , slick marketing backed up with raw power and agression, Lewis again right time right place, at the end of the day they can only foght who is around at the time and will sign up to get it on, the polotics of the game stink to high heaven, I reckon Tyson Fury could be on for same right place right time meself, no taking owt away from any of them at all, in heavyweight one peachy placed punch can change the landscape...................... I always mind a picture I see of Tyson stood in ring over floored opponent, with ref, canny mnind who it was, but the angle its shot from he looks like a giant, seen it in a photography place once masive print framed wish I had bought it , awesome shot it was Everything about the whole Tyson story at the time pulled at the heart strings.......street kid,trainer dying etc etc it must of made such an impression on impressionable people................and dont forget perhaps most importantly.....this was all at a time when boxing was there for everyone old young rich or poor to watch FREE on itv !!!!.......so you didnt even have to be a boxing fan to know his life story and that impacts on people.......dont get me wrong i find him a fascinating character but as a pure fighter i dont get carried away with what he did in the worst era in heavyweight boxing history. Do you think that era was worse than it is today Gnash? now theres a question Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 We all look back And glorify different era 's In life. Be it football boxing or life in general , heavy wight boxing, to some will always be boring. The greats being Ali, Frazier, Forman. In and around them times what was more boring than Ali in his rope a dope faze. The years that followed were barren until a young kid blazed the scene, not the most skillful but full of sheer aggression, bulling his way to a world title! Tyson brought what the fight fans wanted but he was a flash in the pan.... Holyfield brought a more measured approach, a cruiser weight but he could handle Tyson, nearly loosing a tip of an ear in the process. But finishing Tyson's era. Then came Lewis. For a big man he had fast hands.... boring ? Not if you glance back at the names previously mentioned on this thred, you can only fight whats put in front of you , our domestic scene more out of the ring posturing than fights in it at heavy weight, while the lighter weight division are throwing up some great bouts.. THERE'S NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Tyson was finished after buster douglas kod him in the late 80S, his scaremongering was exposed and he lost the fear factor all after a so called bum (tysons words) knocked him out , it showed that Tyson was human and didn't know how to deal with someone wanting to beat him up. bullies are all the same hit them back and they crumble as thay feel they have lost their control, by losing their power of fear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Tyson was finished after buster douglas kod him in the late 80S, his scaremongering was exposed and he lost the fear factor all after a so called bum (tysons words) knocked him out , it showed that Tyson was human and didn't know how to deal with someone wanting to beat him up. bullies are all the same hit them back and they crumble as thay feel they have lost their control, by losing their power of fear Bruno nearly had him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Tyson was finished after buster douglas kod him in the late 80S, his scaremongering was exposed and he lost the fear factor all after a so called bum (tysons words) knocked him out , it showed that Tyson was human and didn't know how to deal with someone wanting to beat him up. bullies are all the same hit them back and they crumble as thay feel they have lost their control, by losing their power of fear Bruno nearly had him anno but then the diorehha ran down his legs and he bottled it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Tyson was finished after buster douglas kod him in the late 80S, his scaremongering was exposed and he lost the fear factor all after a so called bum (tysons words) knocked him out , it showed that Tyson was human and didn't know how to deal with someone wanting to beat him up. bullies are all the same hit them back and they crumble as thay feel they have lost their control, by losing their power of fear Bruno nearly had him anno but then the diorehha ran down his legs and he bottled it killer instinct ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,062 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 id push me nan in the ring for half that money................stop it y pervs 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,615 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 For a 100 million sovs I would get in the ring with a f*****g Lion ! Absolute buffoonery you've never had a fight , you'd have a clutcher walking up the steps to the ring , it's too embarassing for words Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,024 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I grew up with mike tyson watching vids of his progress to title against Trevor Berbick, thats like Rocky to a young lad with a latent interest in boxing,Ive been saying for years a lot of " our generation " (40,s/50 year olds ) boxing followers have an untrue image of Tyson as a fighter for that exact reason......as impressionable youngsters new to the sport many people will of been blown away by the sensational impact Tyson had on boxing and that stays with you over time.........without sounding like a snobby f****r i dont have the hero worship attitude to Tyson a lot of people have i see him as being in the right place at the right time with the right style to make an impression......as a purist i wouldnt put him anywhere near the top 20 fighters of all time,yet still the impact he made is undeniable.100% he opened my eyes and my interest in that weightclass at the time, when you look back and see some of the greats , yeah I think he would not of cut the mustard with a good few of them, however like you say he did hav a massive impact and someone as focused as he was at the time Cus Dmato had him under his wing anyone would of had to have taken him seriously, one mean mutha............. right place and right time? yeah I reckon your 100% spot on with that , slick marketing backed up with raw power and agression, Lewis again right time right place, at the end of the day they can only foght who is around at the time and will sign up to get it on, the polotics of the game stink to high heaven, I reckon Tyson Fury could be on for same right place right time meself, no taking owt away from any of them at all, in heavyweight one peachy placed punch can change the landscape...................... I always mind a picture I see of Tyson stood in ring over floored opponent, with ref, canny mnind who it was, but the angle its shot from he looks like a giant, seen it in a photography place once masive print framed wish I had bought it , awesome shot it was Everything about the whole Tyson story at the time pulled at the heart strings.......street kid,trainer dying etc etc it must of made such an impression on impressionable people................and dont forget perhaps most importantly.....this was all at a time when boxing was there for everyone old young rich or poor to watch FREE on itv !!!!.......so you didnt even have to be a boxing fan to know his life story and that impacts on people.......dont get me wrong i find him a fascinating character but as a pure fighter i dont get carried away with what he did in the worst era in heavyweight boxing history. Do you think that era was worse than it is today Gnash? I think one maybe both of the Klitchsko,s would of beat Tyson.......so yes.................Plus the title in todays era hasnt been passed around like a cheap suit as it was in the Tubbs/Thomas/Page/Dokes era...............personally i think even any of our crop of heavyweights Fury/Haye/Price/Chisora would of beat all those 4 names on the same night !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy pepper 222 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 He must have a fair opinion of himself, either that or he's broke. Lennox Lewis was at the height of his game when the state of heavyweight fighting was at it's lowest IMO. Absolutley spot on...he beat guys on there way down.....if he was fighting 10 years earlier he wouldn't have made it past Europe....proficient against mediocre opposition and one of ,if not the dullest Heavyweight champion ever....wouldn't cross the road to watch him.I cant believe anybody would want to watch this,he was boring then and will be worse now rather spend £15 on a tin of paint and a brush....far more entertaining Lewis took step aside money from two champions,Holyfield and Tyson ,so they could feast on lesser oponents its hardly his fault they were past prime when he got them. Bowe would not go near him.I think his resume is actually very good. Bruno Ruddock Mercer Morrison Holyfield Tyson Grant Tucker Briggs Botha Klitschko [V] Rahman McCall Mason Golota Against Vitali, Lewis was his heaviest ever AT 256.5lbs and at nearly 38 past his best, he had trained to fight Kirk Johnson a vastly different opponent to Vitali but Johnson pulled out injured.Lewis lost the early rounds against Vitali but held his own after the 4th.Vitali required 60 stitches after the fight . Rahman Grant McCall Klitschko Ruddock Briggs Morrison Grant Were not "on their way down" when Lewis got them, and in his last fights Lewis was the older, past prime fighter. As for him being boring, I think he was in a lot more exciting fights than Wlad or his brother Vitali have ever been in. In summary Lewis was beaten only twice and revenged those defeats.He is the last great heavyweight.imo. I doubt Lewis has any serious intention of coming back, he is just yanking chains , and judging from the response here , it seems to be working. I didnt know Lewis was preparing for another fighter before Klitchsko...........what sort of time frame was there between the other fella pulling out and the Klitchsko fight any idea ?..................Good post that mate very informative id forgot a lot of those names on his record ......got to be at least 8 or 9 common opponents with Tyson.....interesting. unjust watched Lewis Klitchko sure I heard the commentator say he pulled out 10 days before was a decent fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 I his day he would of destroyed klitschko Did you watch Lewis' last fight? He looked f****d, and I reckon he'd have lost that fight it it hadn't been stopped for that nasty cut that he inflicted on Klitchko.. Yeah and did you see how fat and out of shape he looked? At his best he smashes him,and as for his little brother he probably gets ko'd imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 I his day he would of destroyed klitschko Did you watch Lewis' last fight? He looked f****d, and I reckon he'd have lost that fight it it hadn't been stopped for that nasty cut that he inflicted on Klitchko.. Yeah and did you see how fat and out of shape he looked? At his best he smashes him,and as for his little brother he probably gets ko'd imo Well in my book 'his day' was right up until the point he retired, you should have been more specific if you were referring to a certain period in his career! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 we wouldn't judge joe Louis by his performance against Marciano,would we? Not that Lewis was that far passed his best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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