northern lad 2,292 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) He must have a fair opinion of himself, either that or he's broke. Lennox Lewis was at the height of his game when the state of heavyweight fighting was at it's lowest IMO. Absolutley spot on...he beat guys on there way down.....if he was fighting 10 years earlier he wouldn't have made it past Europe....proficient against mediocre opposition and one of ,if not the dullest Heavyweight champion ever....wouldn't cross the road to watch him.I cant believe anybody would want to watch this,he was boring then and will be worse now rather spend £15 on a tin of paint and a brush....far more entertaining Lewis was recognized as champion in 1993 , if he had been around ten years earlier, he would have faced. Champ Larry Holmes. 1.Gerrie Coetzee,[ kod in 1rd by Bruno,I was ringside]. 2.Greg Page,[couldnt walk past his ice box] 3.Mike Dokes ,[kod by Coetzee coked up waster] 4.Pinklon Thomas,[ heroin addict] 5.Tim Witherspoon,[ had a job to beat Bruno tested positive for Marijuana twice] 6.Mike Weaver,[kod by Lewis in 6rds, it was only Lewis's 15th fight] 7.David Bey 8.John Tate [kod by Weaver] 9.Trevor Berbick,[ kod by Tyson who was kod by Lewis]. 10.Frank Bruno,[ kod by Lewis in 7 rds] An aging champion,[ Holmes was 34,] and a good top ten , none of whom would I make favourite to beat a prime Lewis. I don't think you have much of a grasp of this subject Lennox....is that you Inan...just accept our difference of opinion,it would be no good if we all liked the same,Im not the only one to think this way,a lot of the pundits at the time thought so too You don't think Tyson in his prime would have beaten Lewis Edited October 10, 2013 by northern lad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Thought Lewais had to much pride and respeect for the game than this, like Gnasher says it insulting to the current chapion, surely ayounger contender should have the pleasure, not someone whom has made a great living from the game and cannot be short of a bob or two, he must be feckin mad , Lewis 48 and hasn't had a fight for nearly ten and a half years. I think if Wladimir Klitschko ,or is that Grabimir Klutschko, had any respect for the game he would not have performed like he did last Saturday night. never watched that fight, heavy weight dont interest me any more sadly, the Kiltshcko years dulled it for me, I watch fury with my boys and like what I see pure raw talent, I grew up with mike tyson watching vids of his progress to title against Trevor Berbick, thats like Rocky to a young lad with a latent interest in boxing, Lewis I liked cos I realised he had better chance than Bruno, he went in when division was weakening, he fought ghosts but hey he did win the title for the uk, and defended it and thats summat for every brit to be proud of regardless of personal opinion of fighters, they go places most of us would never want to go and thats sumat I respect in any fighter, Lewis a big man and who knows keyed up enoughhe could smash Klit flat out only take sone punch, I think there days numbered and it could well be Tyson Fury , I hate seeing old fighters come back , Lewis from sensible era, no need for the pennies , but hey am not a fighter, maybe his heart like Rockys lol Edited October 10, 2013 by arcticgun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Edited October 10, 2013 by arcticgun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 to be fair though lennox doesnt really want this fight he first said 50 mil now theres interest he wants 100 mil fair play to him if he gets it at the end of the day if you dont ask you dont get but i hope his heart is in the fight and not the money cause i would sure take a hell of a pasting for 100 mil I'll bet anyone on here a pint he doesnt fight again. I agree...........i think the whole David Price thing was probably a bit embarrassing for him and he maybe feels this 100 mill thing shows his worth.....without really having to do anything. What David price thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 He must have a fair opinion of himself, either that or he's broke. Lennox Lewis was at the height of his game when the state of heavyweight fighting was at it's lowest IMO. Absolutley spot on...he beat guys on there way down.....if he was fighting 10 years earlier he wouldn't have made it past Europe....proficient against mediocre opposition and one of ,if not the dullest Heavyweight champion ever....wouldn't cross the road to watch him.I cant believe anybody would want to watch this,he was boring then and will be worse now rather spend £15 on a tin of paint and a brush....far more entertaining Lewis was recognized as champion in 1993 , if he had been around ten years earlier, he would have faced. Champ Larry Holmes. 1.Gerrie Coetzee,[ kod in 1rd by Bruno,I was ringside]. 2.Greg Page,[couldnt walk past his ice box] 3.Mike Dokes ,[kod by Coetzee coked up waster] 4.Pinklon Thomas,[ heroin addict] 5.Tim Witherspoon,[ had a job to beat Bruno tested positive for Marijuana twice] 6.Mike Weaver,[kod by Lewis in 6rds, it was only Lewis's 15th fight] 7.David Bey 8.John Tate [kod by Weaver] 9.Trevor Berbick,[ kod by Tyson who was kod by Lewis]. 10.Frank Bruno,[ kod by Lewis in 7 rds] An aging champion,[ Holmes was 34,] and a good top ten , none of whom would I make favourite to beat a prime Lewis. I don't think you have much of a grasp of this subject Lennox....is that you Inan...just accept our difference of opinion,it would be no good if we all liked the same,Im not the only one to think this way,a lot of the pundits at the time thought so too You don't think Tyson in his prime would have beaten Lewis No worries,I'm not big on Lewis he was too cautious in some fights but those I mentioned were not boring.I can't remember any pundits saying his fights with ,Briggs,Botha,Golota,Ruddock,Grant,Weaver,Mercer,were boring. Tyson and Lewis would have been very interesting. Tyson would obviously have done a lot better and maybe won, but he wasn't hard to neutralise and frustrate as Tucker, Smith ,and even Green proved. None of those were as good as Lewis,Tucker and Green couldnt hit like Lennox ,and Smith couldn't box like him. I posted the ranked fighters of a decade earlier including a 34 years old Champion Holmes I would pick Lewis to beat all of them so the idea that he couldn't" hang ". with those guys is absurd ,imo. Next to Ali, Lewis is the worst stylistic nightmare for the other heavyweight champions to encounter, whether you liked his style or not is irrelevant to recognizing his quality, he could box and hit very hard, he was a very big guy who when fully focused would be a mountain for any heavyweight to climb. The idea that he was in a soft era is untrue, as his record shows. He was the best heavyweight in the world for 10 years ,that's quite an achievement . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I could never get behind lewis as a true brit -----like I could with the likes of Bruno and gary mason ... so I never took much notice of him and wouldn't if he made a come back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,024 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) I grew up with mike tyson watching vids of his progress to title against Trevor Berbick, thats like Rocky to a young lad with a latent interest in boxing, Ive been saying for years a lot of " our generation " (40,s/50 year olds ) boxing followers have an untrue image of Tyson as a fighter for that exact reason......as impressionable youngsters new to the sport many people will of been blown away by the sensational impact Tyson had on boxing and that stays with you over time.........without sounding like a snobby f****r i dont have the hero worship attitude to Tyson a lot of people have i see him as being in the right place at the right time with the right style and the right story to make an impression......as a purist i wouldnt put him anywhere near the top 20 fighters of all time,yet still the impact he made is undeniable. Edited October 11, 2013 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,024 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 to be fair though lennox doesnt really want this fight he first said 50 mil now theres interest he wants 100 mil fair play to him if he gets it at the end of the day if you dont ask you dont get but i hope his heart is in the fight and not the money cause i would sure take a hell of a pasting for 100 mil I'll bet anyone on here a pint he doesnt fight again.I agree...........i think the whole David Price thing was probably a bit embarrassing for him and he maybe feels this 100 mill thing shows his worth.....without really having to do anything. What David price thing? Between the 2 Thompson fights didnt Lennox come into Price,s camp like a knight in shining armour showing him where he went wrong first time and how he will definately beat him in the rematch.........only for the rematch to be an even more conclusive stoppage than the first..........looking at Lewis standing around ringside scratching his cannister he looked very embarrassed it probably dented his ego somewhat............so what better than to hint at a comeback to show his worth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I grew up with mike tyson watching vids of his progress to title against Trevor Berbick, thats like Rocky to a young lad with a latent interest in boxing, Ive been saying for years a lot of " our generation " (40,s/50 year olds ) boxing followers have an untrue image of Tyson as a fighter for that exact reason......as impressionable youngsters new to the sport many people will of been blown away by the sensational impact Tyson had on boxing and that stays with you over time.........without sounding like a snobby f****r i dont have the hero worship attitude to Tyson a lot of people have i see him as being in the right place at the right time with the right style to make an impression......as a purist i wouldnt put him anywhere near the top 20 fighters of all time,yet still the impact he made is undeniable. 100% he opened my eyes and my interest in that weightclass at the time, when you look back and see some of the greats , yeah I think he would not of cut the mustard with a good few of them, however like you say he did hav a massive impact and someone as focused as he was at the time Cus Dmato had him under his wing anyone would of had to have taken him seriously, one mean mutha............. right place and right time? yeah I reckon your 100% spot on with that , slick marketing backed up with raw power and agression, Lewis again right time right place, at the end of the day they can only foght who is around at the time and will sign up to get it on, the polotics of the game stink to high heaven, I reckon Tyson Fury could be on for same right place right time meself, no taking owt away from any of them at all, in heavyweight one peachy placed punch can change the landscape...................... I always mind a picture I see of Tyson stood in ring over floored opponent, with ref, canny mnind who it was, but the angle its shot from he looks like a giant, seen it in a photography place once masive print framed wish I had bought it , awesome shot it was Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I his day he would of destroyed klitschko Did you watch Lewis' last fight? He looked f****d, and I reckon he'd have lost that fight it it hadn't been stopped for that nasty cut that he inflicted on Klitchko.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 to be fair though lennox doesnt really want this fight he first said 50 mil now theres interest he wants 100 mil fair play to him if he gets it at the end of the day if you dont ask you dont get but i hope his heart is in the fight and not the money cause i would sure take a hell of a pasting for 100 mil I'll bet anyone on here a pint he doesnt fight again.I agree...........i think the whole David Price thing was probably a bit embarrassing for him and he maybe feels this 100 mill thing shows his worth.....without really having to do anything. What David price thing? Between the 2 Thompson fights didnt Lennox come into Price,s camp like a knight in shining armour showing him where he went wrong first time and how he will definately beat him in the rematch.........only for the rematch to be an even more conclusive stoppage than the first..........looking at Lewis standing around ringside scratching his cannister he looked very embarrassed it probably dented his ego somewhat............so what better than to hint at a comeback to show his worth. Lewis was not in the ring with Thompson, Price was, the pressure got to Price in the rematch he had him down then shot his wad trying to finish him the tension drained him of his stamina and a 40 plus oldster kod him. I don't see how it reflects badly on Lewis, Price was doing the fighting.Maybe Price has found his level,shame because he can box and undeniably has right hand power, but possibly not big fight temparament, time will tell . Lewis is having fun teasing the press , he knows he was showing wear and tear against Vitali, and is too smart to succumb to ego. Thompson would not get past half way with prime Lewis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I his day he would of destroyed klitschko Did you watch Lewis' last fight? He looked f****d, and I reckon he'd have lost that fight it it hadn't been stopped for that nasty cut that he inflicted on Klitchko.. Lewis was nearly 38 in that fight, would you like to bet on a prime Vitali beating a prime Lewis? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I grew up with mike tyson watching vids of his progress to title against Trevor Berbick, thats like Rocky to a young lad with a latent interest in boxing, Ive been saying for years a lot of " our generation " (40,s/50 year olds ) boxing followers have an untrue image of Tyson as a fighter for that exact reason......as impressionable youngsters new to the sport many people will of been blown away by the sensational impact Tyson had on boxing and that stays with you over time.........without sounding like a snobby f****r i dont have the hero worship attitude to Tyson a lot of people have i see him as being in the right place at the right time with the right style to make an impression......as a purist i wouldnt put him anywhere near the top 20 fighters of all time,yet still the impact he made is undeniable. 100% he opened my eyes and my interest in that weightclass at the time, when you look back and see some of the greats , yeah I think he would not of cut the mustard with a good few of them, however like you say he did hav a massive impact and someone as focused as he was at the time Cus Dmato had him under his wing anyone would of had to have taken him seriously, one mean mutha............. right place and right time? yeah I reckon your 100% spot on with that , slick marketing backed up with raw power and agression, Lewis again right time right place, at the end of the day they can only foght who is around at the time and will sign up to get it on, the polotics of the game stink to high heaven, I reckon Tyson Fury could be on for same right place right time meself, no taking owt away from any of them at all, in heavyweight one peachy placed punch can change the landscape...................... I always mind a picture I see of Tyson stood in ring over floored opponent, with ref, canny mnind who it was, but the angle its shot from he looks like a giant, seen it in a photography place once masive print framed wish I had bought it , awesome shot it was Tyson's management did a masterful job of hyping him,videos of his early kos were sent to all the fight press after they happened and all the public remember is seeing those blow -outs , the distance snore- bores with Tucker,Smith ,and Green are not recalled. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I could never get behind lewis as a true brit -----like I could with the likes of Bruno and gary mason ... so I never took much notice of him and wouldn't if he made a come back. I root for quality ,not nationality. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,024 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Lewis was not in the ring with Thompson, Price was, the pressure got to Price in the rematch he had him down then shot his wad trying to finish him the tension drained him of his stamina and a 40 plus oldster kod him. I don't see how it reflects badly on Lewis, Price was doing the fighting.Maybe Price has found his level,shame because he can box and undeniably has right hand power, but possibly not big fight temparament, time will tell . Lewis is having fun teasing the press , he knows he was showing wear and tear against Vitali, and is too smart to succumb to ego. Thompson would not get past half way with prime Lewis It doesnt reflect badly on Lewis at all in my eyes...................but fighters have big egos....all fighters...............Lewis has been sitting in the shadows for 10 years then he pipes up in Prices camp to " show him some things "...................he then looks like little boy lost when Price gets sparked and next month he,s hinting at what he,s worth..............if he,s no intentions which i dont think he has then id take a stab at a dented ego. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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