Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 To think that a lad with no connections at all can just 'get into' lurchers or terriers and serve his apprenticeship is naive. Times have changed. Don't think that all these youngsters don't want to do exactly that. Sometimes you just have to quit whining that nobody will give you a hand get out there and do it yourself, learn from your own mistakes. Fortunately some people do pass on their excess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wxm 1,638 Posted October 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I still don't get why anyone would sell working pups for profit.http://m.preloved.co.uk/m/showadvert/109212434/pug-puppy.html I reckon if I bought 5 bitches and a dog and bred the bitches once a year I wouldn't even need to work. pugs / frenchie's / british bulldogs / 5 bitches @ roughly 6 pups each = 30 pups @ 800 - 1200 each = 24,000k - 36,000k for 6 - 30 weeks work a year (deppending on if they come in at the same time or not) some breeds they breed back to back so 24,000k - 36,000k turns into 48,000k - 72,000k like it or not you can see why people do do it, also if there wasnt a market then there wouldnt be a need for them to breed. 6 pups if you are lucky... Often 2 or 3 so double amount of bitches in those breeds... Same way with dachshunds we used to breed em high mortalitys rates in first couple weeks from birth... C-sections commonplace... All those breeds you mentioned have high incidences of cleft palates and c sections... Thats why puppy farmers crossbreed pugs with beagles and cavalirers There's a women down the road that has pugs litters of 5 - 7 a mate used to have bulldogs litters from 2 - 9 majority being 5 plus. I think it's down to the condition of both the dam and sire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 It always amazes me that folk will pay £200 + for boots/wellies/waterproofs but will baulk and piss and moan at the thought of paying similar for a dog... So, what price a pair of wellies for a working man..... I know of 2 or 3 litters in the past 12 months that were initially priced way over what they were worth...one or two sold...the rest were reduced in price and the remainder stuck around for weeks before being given away...in one instance, where there had been 13 in the litter, to a rescue home.... Totally disgraceful.....and borne out of greed.... Is it the litter I'm thinking off? Aye Ross it is the litter you're thinking of - f****n disgraceful mate. And the sire and dam had - at the time the pups were born - never done a days graft....and to make things worse were brother and sister..... Brother/sister mating?!? It's Hawick no fecking Yorkshire!!! was this litter not talked about on here before?? alaunt's if i remember correctly?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hily 379 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 working mans price = 300-500 plus vetted by seller this shows a commitment to the dog and if you can't afford this how will you be able to pay for its upkeep . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boyo 1,398 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 it always makes me laugh when i hear people saying you should gift your pups away or sell them to good homes an a knockdown price a =cheap or free dont mean their going to good homes b=when you have paid good price for a stud dog and perhaps travelled 400 mile round trip twice for bitch to be served then jabbed whole litter of pups plus wormed them from 2 week old plus fed them on the best of everything untill they are ready to leave and spent hours socialising them it does stick in your craw to think that people out there think you dont deserve to get a decent price for your pups. c= anything is worth what the buyer thinks its worth ,simple answer is because someone is to tight or thinks something is to expensive it doesnt mean that the next person does and that they are wrong to value it more . ps last litter i bred i did gift 2 away but did get what i thought was decent price for the rest of the litter and could have sold another 6 or 7 pups .so not everyone out there thinks the same . 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wxm 1,638 Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 it always makes me laugh when i hear people saying you should gift your pups away or sell them to good homes an a knockdown price a =cheap or free dont mean their going to good homes b=when you have paid good price for a stud dog and perhaps travelled 400 mile round trip twice for bitch to be served then jabbed whole litter of pups plus wormed them from 2 week old plus fed them on the best of everything untill they are ready to leave and spent hours socialising them it does stick in your craw to think that people out there think you dont deserve to get a decent price for your pups. c= anything is worth what the buyer thinks its worth ,simple answer is because someone is to tight or thinks something is to expensive it doesnt mean that the next person does and that they are wrong to value it more . ps last litter i bred i did gift 2 away but did get what i thought was decent price for the rest of the litter and could have sold another 6 or 7 pups .so not everyone out there thinks the same . and the miles / hours put in to get the dam and sire to a grade worth breeding from, i've always said that a good bred lurcher pup from good working tried and tested stock should be 200+ and the tought of the breeder making a couple of quid for the hard work he's done in all weathers to get the bitch up to scratch shouldnt come into it IMO 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Should be confident enough in the person your giving a pup to that it goes for free or cull it imo. Your not going to get rich breeding working dogs thats a fact but you should have a love and be as loyal as the dogs. Cant really see how someone could take a few hundred quid and not know how a pup is going to end up. I understand raising pups costs money but if you cant afford to do that and have to sell pups to get the money back then dont do it in the first place imo. Maybe abit opinionated at the moment as have just noticed a dog i saw as a pup end up in the hands of scumbags now its older. Money may buy everything including happiness but imo the best bred dogs arent sold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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