ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I don't believe there is such a thing as a working man's price, just something with a figure you can relate to. It'll be different for everyone. If someone wants to spend £650 on a mongrel, then you can see why prices are so inflated in the first place! The market dictates what the going rate is. Whether it's your working man's price is purely in the eye of the beholder. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive Why... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wxm 1,638 Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 The way I see it is if you set the price too low all your doing is leaving it open for someone to buy the item so they can sell it on and make a profit. I got talking to a women that had chihuahua pups selling them for 250 in the local rag, someone came there and bought 2 for 450 then the same week had the pups up for 550 each selling due to allergys. She advertised them at what some would say a working mans price but I'd say she just left it open to be abused, and they were bought to be sold at the going rate. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive Why... Prestige. The market dictates that people will pay more for gun dogs, across the board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,328 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive First dog I ever bought was a field bred springer from working stock back in 95 or 96.. £35.. I'm fairly sure when I was looking around last year, that you could get a springer pup from Buccleuch (David Lisset's work) for £650. Just checked again but they are all reserved up for the next year, and no prices available. It winds me up if you can get a 'Decent' dog from these guys, what makes Joe Bloggs down the road think he can get £400-£500+? Average around our way for a springer at the moment is £350. Prices do change....Our current Woodburner stove needs replacing........ £795 in 1983.....Price quoted yesterday for todays model......£2500!! It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive First dog I ever bought was a field bred springer from working stock back in 95 or 96.. £35.. I'm fairly sure when I was looking around last year, that you could get a springer pup from Buccleuch (David Lisset's work) for £650. Just checked again but they are all reserved up for the next year, and no prices available. It winds me up if you can get a 'Decent' dog from these guys, what makes Joe Bloggs down the road think he can get £400-£500+? Average around our way for a springer at the moment is £350. Prices do change....Our current Woodburner stove needs replacing........ £795 in 1983.....Price quoted yesterday for todays model......£2500!! Someone I know bought one of his springers this year for £750 and had been on his waiting list for three years. Why wouldn't a man with decent springers working well and trained well be entitled to four hundred pounds for a pup?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 If your making a profit out of a litter of pups your a cnut...... If you can't afford to breed a litter, then don't... guys with there dogs best interest at heart won't make a profit, they be too busy finding GOOD homes.. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Someone I know bought one of his springers this year for £750 and had been on his waiting list for three years. Why wouldn't a man with decent springers working well and trained well be entitled to four hundred pounds for a pup?. He's entitled to whatever he can get, wheather or not it's right is another matter. Like I have said, if you buy a pup from a chap that is making no profit at all then when he bred his bitch earning out of it was never a consideration. That doesn't mean the breeding was well thought out but certainly means it wasn't done to line his pocket. If a man is making a tidy profit from his pups then imo it leaves a very good chance he's breeding for the benefit of his bank balance. Shit loads of people have dogs that are just average but decide to breed and enevitably earn off of it. I wonder if all those average dogs would see litters if there was no profit involved...... I'd hazard a guess the number of half thought out litters bred would drop dramatically but the well thought out litters would not drop at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 The way I see it is if you set the price too low all your doing is leaving it open for someone to buy the item so they can sell it on and make a profit. I got talking to a women that had chihuahua pups selling them for 250 in the local rag, someone came there and bought 2 for 450 then the same week had the pups up for 550 each selling due to allergys. She advertised them at what some would say a working mans price but I'd say she just left it open to be abused, and they were bought to be sold at the going rate. Just because someone has money it doesn't mean it is the right home for the dog though does it? If the only way you are filtering out buyers by is how much spare cash they have then you shouldn't be selling any living thing imo. All responsible breeders will either have homes lined up with people they know or will have a hundred questions and might want to see the home etc. I agree with Born Hunter on this, if you are breeding a litter it should be to continue the genetics of a good dog at cost price, or even a loss because raising a litter isn't cheap. To me a working man's price is just a way of saying to stop trying to make a profit being a dog peddler and sell to good homes. Having said all this I have no problem spending more for the right dog, if it's an adult dog that's been doing the business for a couple of seasons then asking £3-500 isn't out of order at all, you are paying for the time and effort too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.P.R 2,798 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 If your making a profit out of a litter of pups your a cnut...... If you can't afford to breed a litter, then don't... guys with there dogs best interest at heart won't make a profit, they be too busy finding GOOD homes.. I can name atleast 5 people in my work/or a friend of the wife.... Who have bought teacup chihuahas and the likes.... with the SOLE INTENTION of making money.... Makes me feckin sick .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,328 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 As has been said before it's not all about the breeding but obviously good working lines are preferable, however some of the best dogs bred will end up in the hands of clowns, add to that everyone has their own definition of working ability so it's a very grey area. Suffice to say the majority of people I've known to breed a litter thought they were breeding from the best, who knows if they were, the point I was trying to put across was there are no guarantees regarding a dog simply by the man breeding it the biggest single deciding factor is the man who gets it for it is he who has the greatest input and influence in how the dog turns out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive First dog I ever bought was a field bred springer from working stock back in 95 or 96.. £35.. I'm fairly sure when I was looking around last year, that you could get a springer pup from Buccleuch (David Lisset's work) for £650.Just checked again but they are all reserved up for the next year, and no prices available. It winds me up if you can get a 'Decent' dog from these guys, what makes Joe Bloggs down the road think he can get £400-£500+? Average around our way for a springer at the moment is £350. Prices do change....Our current Woodburner stove needs replacing........ £795 in 1983.....Price quoted yesterday for todays model......£2500!! It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive First dog I ever bought was a field bred springer from working stock back in 95 or 96.. £35.. I'm fairly sure when I was looking around last year, that you could get a springer pup from Buccleuch (David Lisset's work) for £650.Just checked again but they are all reserved up for the next year, and no prices available. It winds me up if you can get a 'Decent' dog from these guys, what makes Joe Bloggs down the road think he can get £400-£500+? Average around our way for a springer at the moment is £350. Prices do change....Our current Woodburner stove needs replacing........ £795 in 1983.....Price quoted yesterday for todays model......£2500!! Someone I know bought one of his springers this year for £750 and had been on his waiting list for three years.Why wouldn't a man with decent springers working well and trained well be entitled to four hundred pounds for a pup?. Unless the pups come out fully trained and working well I can't see the relevance? The type of gun people I used to know who bred their own dogs where the type who actually went out hunting with dog and gun, and didn't spend their time standing around field trails, bragging about how many time the word FTCH appeared on the pedigree of their overpriced dogs.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive Why... Prestige. The market dictates that people will pay more for gun dogs, across the board. Spot on. People pay more for gun dogs than they do lurchers simple as Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive Why... Prestige. The market dictates that people will pay more for gun dogs, across the board. Spot on. People pay more for gun dogs than they do lurchers simple as Not always.. If I ever needed a spaniel I reckon I could get one from working stock and pay no more than I'd pay for a lurcher... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive Why... Prestige. The market dictates that people will pay more for gun dogs, across the board. Spot on. People pay more for gun dogs than they do lurchers simple as Not always.. If I ever needed a spaniel I reckon I could get one from working stock and pay no more than I'd pay for a lurcher... Aye but in terms of the over all market gun dogs attract a higher price than a lurcher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's just the way it is....you have lurcher men commenting on the price of gun dogs which are always going to be more expensive Why... Prestige. The market dictates that people will pay more for gun dogs, across the board. Spot on. People pay more for gun dogs than they do lurchers simple as Not always.. If I ever needed a spaniel I reckon I could get one from working stock and pay no more than I'd pay for a lurcher... Aye but in terms of the over all market gun dogs attract a higher price than a lurcher. Maybe mate, but I don't know any genuine countryside shooting person round here who would pay or even expect to pay more than £150 odd for a springer spaniel.. Maybe the weekend shooter middle class types would, don't know many of those though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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