Am I Loaded? - Tip

[bigmac 97kt 13,776]

Or just get a hw97 ,hw77.hw90 so and so on as the safety comes on automatic when loaded and you have to fiscally knock it off and if you don't fire all you do is re-cock them to put the safety back on jobs a good un or do what my grandson (little hunter) dus he only pushes a pellet in when he see,s some thing to shoot that way he is all ways unloaded when walking around and if he dus not get the chance to fire it he all ways points it at the ground and empty,s his rifle stay safe even empty a rifle shood all ways be treated as loaded and i shood know that more than eny one after three and a half hours in theater atvbmac :thumbs:

[TimS 49]

I always use the safety by habit on my Mk4. Its in such a good position that I flick it off with my thumb just before I take a shot and automatically back on again afterwards. That way I know my rifle is always safe and not going to discharge, loaded or not. Its a habit I got in to when shootng HFT. My rifle is always safe, even when not loaded.

Always keeping it safe means that I personally couldn't use this as a loaded indicator, so I had to find another way - thus the cable ties.

 

HW100/97/77 etc, etc... er...I have a Daystate Mk4. If I wanted another rifle I would buy one, but the MK4 is such a superb piece of equipment that changing to a HW100 etc would not be an upgrade. The only flaws that I have found are 1> Double Loading and 2> Cheekpiece is too low. Other than that, I havent found another hunting rifle with better performance, consistency and accuracy that I personally like enough to want to change. The HW100kt is a great rifle too, but I love my Mk4.

[Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701]

Each to their own mate

[Wildling 520]

Over priced rubbish those MK 4's.

[Acuspell 329]

Or just get a hw97 ,hw77.hw90 so and so on as the safety comes on automatic when loaded and you have to fiscally knock it off and if you don't fire all you do is re-cock them to put the safety back on jobs a good un or do what my grandson (little hunter) dus he only pushes a pellet in when he see,s some thing to shoot that way he is all ways unloaded when walking around and if he dus not get the chance to fire it he all ways points it at the ground and empty,s his rifle stay safe even empty a rifle shood all ways be treated as loaded and i shood know that more than eny one after three and a half hours in theater atvbmac :thumbs:

 

 

With a pellet I hope - don't let him dry fire a spring or ram rifle. They need the cushioinging effect of the pellet or the piston head will suffer damage. Even firing felt pellets on their own is not good for these rifles.

 

I cam begin to understand the authorities and their worry about daft twits with air rifles having read through this. A proper system of rifle handling will always avoid double loading. Get into the habit of always doing the same thing - EITHER cock and load just before firing time (walk round empty, uncocked).OR always load, as in cock and load. That way, you either ALWAYS have to go through the repeat cycle to shoot, or just squeeze the shot off - in the latter case, if you have forgotten to load, you just have a slack trigger and no discharge whatever. Just cock and load and shoot again.

It isn't quantum physics!

[bigmac 97kt 13,776]

 

Or just get a hw97 ,hw77.hw90 so and so on as the safety comes on automatic when loaded and you have to fiscally knock it off and if you don't fire all you do is re-cock them to put the safety back on jobs a good un or do what my grandson (little hunter) dus he only pushes a pellet in when he see,s some thing to shoot that way he is all ways unloaded when walking around and if he dus not get the chance to fire it he all ways points it at the ground and empty,s his rifle stay safe even empty a rifle shood all ways be treated as loaded and i shood know that more than eny one after three and a half hours in theater atvbmac :thumbs:

 

 

With a pellet I hope - don't let him dry fire a spring or ram rifle. They need the cushioinging effect of the pellet or the piston head will suffer damage. Even firing felt pellets on their own is not good for these rifles.

 

I cam begin to understand the authorities and their worry about daft twits with air rifles having read through this. A proper system of rifle handling will always avoid double loading. Get into the habit of always doing the same thing - EITHER cock and load just before firing time (walk round empty, uncocked).OR always load, as in cock and load. That way, you either ALWAYS have to go through the repeat cycle to shoot, or just squeeze the shot off - in the latter case, if you have forgotten to load, you just have a slack trigger and no discharge whatever. Just cock and load and shoot again.

It isn't quantum physics!

 

When he is hunting he uses his bsa ultra 22 and not a springer and his ultra is a single shot atvbmac :thumbs:

[ghillies 209]

its one of them things int it...you remember or suffer it, after maybe 3 times you should really be thinking single shot lol.

 

(and yes for safety a gun is always loaded...for very good reason).

 

if your thinking 'is it loaded' then you have to discharge into something safe to see....that way you dont put a second up the spout. (or click the trigger at target, if nothing happens it wasnt loaded lol...its how you suss rats jump the pellet btw.. )

[Acuspell 329]

 

 

Or just get a hw97 ,hw77.hw90 so and so on as the safety comes on automatic when loaded and you have to fiscally knock it off and if you don't fire all you do is re-cock them to put the safety back on jobs a good un or do what my grandson (little hunter) dus he only pushes a pellet in when he see,s some thing to shoot that way he is all ways unloaded when walking around and if he dus not get the chance to fire it he all ways points it at the ground and empty,s his rifle stay safe even empty a rifle shood all ways be treated as loaded and i shood know that more than eny one after three and a half hours in theater atvbmac :thumbs:

 

 

With a pellet I hope - don't let him dry fire a spring or ram rifle. They need the cushioinging effect of the pellet or the piston head will suffer damage. Even firing felt pellets on their own is not good for these rifles.

 

I cam begin to understand the authorities and their worry about daft twits with air rifles having read through this. A proper system of rifle handling will always avoid double loading. Get into the habit of always doing the same thing - EITHER cock and load just before firing time (walk round empty, uncocked).OR always load, as in cock and load. That way, you either ALWAYS have to go through the repeat cycle to shoot, or just squeeze the shot off - in the latter case, if you have forgotten to load, you just have a slack trigger and no discharge whatever. Just cock and load and shoot again.

It isn't quantum physics!

 

When he is hunting he uses his bsa ultra 22 and not a springer and his ultra is a single shot atvbmac :thumbs:

 

 

Not according to what you wrote first time round! Read the paragraph you wrote and you will see where the misunderstanding came from. You wrote:

 

Or just get a hw97 ,hw77.hw90 so and so on as the safety comes on automatic when loaded and you have to fiscally knock it off and if you don't fire all you do is re-cock them to put the safety back on jobs a good un or do what my grandson (little hunter) dus he only pushes a pellet in when he see,s some thing to shoot that way he is all ways unloaded when walking around and if he dus not get the chance to fire it he all ways points it at the ground and empty,s his rifle.

 

No mention of any other rifle than HW springers in this entire paragraph and the sentence about re-cocking an HW and the safety re-engaging includes the bit about your grandson firing his rifle off. I have highlighted it in blue. Everything in blue is one sentence (a very long one!) Nowhere does it mention a switch from springer to PCP? So, I am sorry about the confusion, but at least people will be able to see where it arose. The advice about not dry firing a spring or gasram energised rifle is still good, even if it doesn't apply to your grandson.

[bigmac 97kt 13,776]

Sorry bud i can now see what you mean my mistake some times i think faster than i type :laugh: atvbmac :thumbs: