Am I Loaded? - Tip

[TimS 49]

Hi All,

I have been caught out a few times double loading my Daystate Mk4 as there is no way to know if I have a pellet in the breech. So, I made a really simple reminder that fits on my scope - two cable ties of different colours to indicate loaded or not. Every time I load a pellet, I twist the cable tie to RED. Take the shot. Twist to GREEN.

 

Here are a couple of pics so you can see what I mean. Hope it helps someone with a similar problem.

 

Tim

 

 

[pianoman 3,587]

Hi Tim.

I don't wish to be a bloody Health and Safety nerd raining on your parade, because I'm far from it.

 

But, in all honesty, this is not looking like a failsafe measure by any means mate. If it can move, it can slip when anything brushes past it, like your clothing or field vegetation you move through. And if you rely on something to remind you that you are loaded or not you really need to train your concentration on your rifle's status. Not subordinate it to something little better than a knotted hankie to remind you.

 

No disrespect intended mate. But this is looking dangerous. Both to yourself and anyone around you.

Use it by all means but, do not allow it to replace goodsense and keep your mind from concentrating on your rifle, the safety catch and the loading condition at all times, all the time.

 

Edited to add. A RIFLE IS ALWAYS LOADED. NO ARGUMENTS.

 

No offence intended mate.

 

Simon

Edited October 4, 2013 by pianoman

[Marksman 934]

Im with Simon....

 

what happens if you "forget" to twist the "switch"

Yes we've all done it, but I'd sooner attempt to discharge the rifle in a safe area to check than rely on a "device"

 

Darryl

[barrywhite 282]

hw 100

[ben.o 2]

i get you guys but i'm wondering - isn't this meant to be for use only when you would have the gun loaded? I don't think the suggestion is totally rely on it when safety is at stake - "oh it's on green so i'll chuck my gun in the boot, go home and think no more"

 

but, you're in your hide and waiting, having the gun loaded is ok, but you took a shot and the pigeon landed belly up so you retrieved it, got bored, ate your mars bar, then you hear a flutter.... it would be handy to be reminded if you have one up the spout or not? Probably not the best time to discharge the rifle just to check as the next bird eyes your patter.....?

[Daz39 962]

I'm with Barry, having the HW100 I can't double load and I am shocked that other manufacturers are still making rifles today that can be double loaded. Hope you find a smart solution.

[TimS 49]

Guys,

Come on.

 

Common sense needs to always apply. We are not talking about leaving a door open - its a RIFLE!!! If in doubt, its ALWAYS LOADED! Please....

 

This is a great little tip for those situations where you reload, perhaps thinking you needed a second shot to despatch, or indeed had another opportunity, didnt take the shot and then went back to stalking or waiting. An hour later, an opportutniy arises and you now know that you are loaded! There has been the odd occasion where I forgot and either dry fired or double loaded.

 

Simon, if fitted properly, the cable ties are tight. They dont slip or move unless under intentional directional pressure.

 

Darryl, If the indicator is RED and showing loaded, then the rifle needs to be unloaded the same as if it was loaded with no indicator. Having the indicator doesnt make it more or less dangerous than remembering you loaded it or not. The only screw up potential is with the shooter, not the tool.

 

Anyway, no offence taken boys as all points are valid. If you like it, great. If not, great. Works for me though.

 

Tim

[ben.o 2]

everyone agrees tho, if in doubt for the sake of safety it's loaded, always always discharge safely before you need to climb a fence, put the gun away, give it to someone else or whatever.

 

my ph6 has numbers on the fixed mag and whenever i have a quiet moment I re-fill the mag and re-index to 1 but thats an annoying point on that gun, when I finish a session i'm not happy to have the mag full so i burn 6 shots into a safe spot to make sure the gun is properly empty.....

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Er the Daystate has a nice safety switch, how about putting it on if you have loaded the gun?

[SimonC_Here 36]

Er the Daystate has a nice safety switch, how about putting it on if you have loaded the gun?

I couldn't do that on the Airwolf as if the safety is off it will fire regardless of if you have cocked it, so the safety is always on unless I'm about to fire.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

I know, but if you have no pellet in the breech the only thing that will happen is a blast of air escapes from the muzzle.

 

Putting the safety on after you have cocked it will mean that when you got to put a second up the breech you will see the safety in the safe position and then wont do it!

 

Either that or buy an HW100!

[Wildling 520]

[porkycrook 466]

I have an Air Arms S410 and when i first had it, it was my first ever pcp gun and i found that i could double load. I now do not load until i have somethin to shoot, and if my target moves off i leave the bolt closed. Then if my bolt is open i am not cocked, closed i am ready. I don't have multi loadings.

I am the same with my gun 10 shot magazines i always load 9 and leave one slot empty, then i can carry my extra magazines in my pockets without pellets dropping out. I am toying with the idea of painting one of the magazine slots with some illuminus/day-glow paint so i can see when i have shot 9 times.

[Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701]

am I right in thinking you Can double load a hw100.......?

 

You fire shot 13.of magazine 1

open sidelever.

cock sidelever.

close sidelever, pellet 14 is now in the barrel ready to be fired.

open sidelever.

release magazine retaining catch thingy and remove magazine 1

insert magazine 2 fully loaded with 14 pellets.

;'lock' magazine in

close sidelever.

 

now 2 pellets are in the barrel?????

 

double damage on next target?

blockage in the breech end of barrel??

 

wouldn't recommend doing this incase it F*cks your gun up like.

 

but can you double load a hw100 -YES lol

[Marksman 934]

am I right in thinking you Can double load a hw100.......?

 

You fire shot 13.of magazine 1

open sidelever.

cock sidelever.

close sidelever, pellet 14 is now in the barrel ready to be fired.

open sidelever.

release magazine retaining catch thingy and remove magazine 1

insert magazine 2 fully loaded with 14 pellets.

;'lock' magazine in

close sidelever.

 

now 2 pellets are in the barrel?????

 

double damage on next target?

blockage in the breech end of barrel??

 

wouldn't recommend doing this incase it F*cks your gun up like.

 

but can you double load a hw100 -YES lol

Yes but you're physically doing it mate, what is meant by it is that if using the same magazine then you can't cock it twice directly therefore double loading it.