nothernlite 18,089 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just to clarify, I am talking younglings here, and what people train, as I am yet to see a pup who just does it all without a bit of training. An older dog needs very little other than to maybe be told to leave a rabbit in the net. imo, as the works been done. a slip lead helps until they get a bit wiser Quote Link to post
albert64 1,882 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 get them out round the burries when their young, basic obedience should start as soon as you get your pup, no matter what its going to be used for but mine know watch up, go back and hold him, and will also go left/right, sit , stay and come all to hand signals a dog that see's a crow flying two fields away and takes off after it is no good to me Quote Link to post
albert64 1,882 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just to clarify, I am talking younglings here, and what people train, as I am yet to see a pup who just does it all without a bit of training. An older dog needs very little other than to maybe be told to leave a rabbit in the net. imo, as the works been done. sometimes a dog needs to be told to hold a rabbit in the net 1 Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted October 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) So out of interest how do people train a leave ? I know how I do it. Edited October 5, 2013 by Sirius 1 Quote Link to post
B.P.R 2,798 Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 "GO ON LASS'...... 2 Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted October 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 "GO ON LASS'...... Crunch em up lol Quote Link to post
pmatty77 26 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I get them used to the ferrets first before i go out at all,mostly i find its the faster movement of the rabbit that gets the dogs attention,leave is a command that should be instilled in the dog at an early age,you are not asking when you say "leave" it is an order,the only words my dogs know when out are "rabbit","ferret" and "leave" Quote Link to post
pmatty77 26 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 According to the dog trainers "leave" is taught by holding some food in the hand then closing it and saying leave,opening it and saying "take",seemed a easy way to me 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,508 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 You b*****d,,,,, Put that f***ing rabbit down,,, Leave that f***ing net Cum out the fecking way ,, ya yousless c**t..... Of course all these commands are aimed at vins dogs,,, cos mine are perfect ,,,lol 3 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I was just thinking that. . . . . the levels of 'leave' - a quiet hiss. - Leave. - Leave it. - Oi Leave it. -f***ing leave it. - f***ing LEAVE IT YOU b*****d THING BEFORE I KICK YOU IN THE HEAD! Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 You b*****d,,,,, Put that f*****g rabbit down,,, Leave that f*****g net Cum out the fecking way ,, ya yousless c**t..... Of course all these commands are aimed at vins dogs,,, cos mine are perfect ,,,lol You wanna hear what he says to me... never mind the dogs.. They are fekking useless though...could'nt catch a mixy bunny in a telephone box. Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 What has always worked for me, AH COULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT RABBIT< YA USELESS FECKER< YER GETTING NAE DINNER THE NIGHT. works a treet, and guarantees Bunnies in the bag. Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 "Stay" conveyed by word or hand signal and important to me is "leave".....never been keen on dogs mouthing bolted netted rabbits.....not difficult to teach either.... Some of the so-called trained ferreting dogs I have seen over the years have been nothing short of feckin useless and are an embarrassment.....tramping about all over.....head down every netted hole....nets wrapped around dogs heads stuck in collars...pulled from the ground....dog panicking....running around like a feckin eejit....munching on netted rabbits....ferret obsessed pests....list is endless....and from some supposed ferreting wonderdogs.... Seen promising days end up resembling somethIng from Fred Karno's circus....the divide between myth and reality of a good ferreting dog is often startling... Some folk and their liabilities don't get asked back..... 2 Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 "Stay" conveyed by word or hand signal and important to me is "leave".....never been keen on dogs mouthing bolted netted rabbits.....not difficult to teach either.... Some of the so-called trained ferreting dogs I have seen over the years have been nothing short of feckin useless and are an embarrassment.....tramping about all over.....head down every netted hole....nets wrapped around dogs heads stuck in collars...pulled from the ground....dog panicking....running around like a feckin eejit....munching on netted rabbits....ferret obsessed pests....list is endless....and from some supposed ferreting wonderdogs.... Seen promising days end up resembling somethIng from Fred Karno's circus....the divide between myth and reality of a good ferreting dog is often startling... Some folk and their liabilities don't get asked back..... Sums up what a ferreting dog needs to understand perfectly Y.I.S Leeview 1 Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Good post BORDERSCOT, it can go horribly wrong thats for sure . It's a balance, as getting a pup in the field early is how I like to do it, but at that early sensitive stage general training and commands are still being worked on also. So good short sessions seem to have worked well for me on the last couple of dogs.I have always felt that although its great to start to teach a 'leave' with food from a young age as basic training, a rabbit or live quarry always stir up a little more 'want' in a dog and to what extent is where the challenge lies. So those early experiences with live quarry is important stuff to build on the 'leave' and desensitising them to rabbits to a certain extent is important so they don't see a rabbit (alive or dead) as a 'big deal' helps alot.Working in that short window of opportunity when the pup is still not as sure of itself, assertive or as driven as a older dog would be, enables me to get the basis of that all important training nicely in place far easier I have found. Each dogs a challenge and everyday is certainly a SKool day Edited October 9, 2013 by Sirius Quote Link to post
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