shadow_sniper 47 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 hi guys. i need some shooting advice i have a .22 and am used .177 cal air rifles. i always seem to be 2 inch off my target any advice? kind regards nick Quote Link to post
Daz39 962 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Aim higher.... Quote Link to post
Daz39 962 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) Couldn't resist. Did you zero the scope? If so, what distance? Are you 2" off at 20 yards, or 30 or 50 or ? Think you need to put a little more info on here. You are obviously aware that the trajectory of the .22 is way more of a curve than the .177 regardless, you need to pick a distance, zero the scope, then creep the yardage out AND IN to check your aim points at those yardages. You can then take note and know for the next time, 40 yrds = 2 mil dots up or 30 yards = 1 mil dot up.....or whatever you find depending on the gun and scope. GL Edited October 2, 2013 by Daz39 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,780 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Is it a pcp or spring rifle if you have set your zero and its a spring rifle you may be pulling the rifle when your squeezing the trigger if that's the case then lighten the trigger so its not to hard to squeeze the trigger and if its a pcp you could be doing the same thing you don't say if its high or left or right that your missing the target if its high then the rifle is jumping when you set one off as the recoil in a spring rifle will have this afect when it is lent on some thing ,ie,fence post ,bench,so on and so on im sure Si (zini) davyt63 or pianomam will correct me on this if im wrong and if it is a spring rifle most important do not use a bi-pod as this will course all sorts of problems but it could be your scopes as well can you be more specific ie is it a springer or pcp and is it high or low or left or right atvbmac :thumbs: Quote Link to post
j j m 6,536 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Good advice from above Quote Link to post
shadow_sniper 47 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 its is zerod in at 30yards pellet on pellet. hoeever when i take into the field i always land 2inch short of my target it is a pcp. Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,780 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 OUT in the field it is hard some time,s to estimate the distance of your target when your out in the field pace your zero,d distance and check your zero and then you will know if the pray you have been shooting at are a bit farther away and all ways check that your rifle is full of air as this will coarse the pellet to drop be fore it reaches the target im not getting at you as iv dun the same thing before and if the lads on here are honest they will have to hope this helps mate atvbmac :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Hello Nick. 2 inches short sounds like they are grouping but low of target. Several possible shooting maladies come to mind here. Could be you are shooting directly into strong winds? That will suppress your shots low. If you have a perfect pellet-on-pellet zero something is changing the harmonic of the rifle in your aim when you set up to field-shoot. Could be a result of inconsistent hold technique? You must always shoot the rifle with the same relaxed, unstressed imposition on it, as when you were zeroing your scope. Are you certain you are shooting to within your zero range? A target 10 yards further beyond will result in shots going low. At 50 yards with .22 you will be going as much as 4-inches low from your original zero point. With a PCP this sounds like a range-estimation error. Edited October 3, 2013 by pianoman 1 Quote Link to post
shadow_sniper 47 Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 cheers for your advice pal . may re look at my zero. i pay rezero at 35 yards,.my range estimation is spot oin in the day time every kill is in the kill zone. however it maybe that i have just started shooting at night---different kettle of fish? regards nick Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,780 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 cheers for your advice pal . may re look at my zero. i pay rezero at 35 yards,.my range estimation is spot oin in the day time every kill is in the kill zone. however it maybe that i have just started shooting at night---different kettle of fish? regards nick I think you have hit the nail on the head,as every thing looks diferent at night and its harder to estermait the distance at night ,still check zero when you go at night and try and store the distance in your head as iv said before it works for me and i do most of my hunting at night atvbmac :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
Acuspell 329 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Hello Nick. 2 inches short sounds like they are grouping but low of target. Several possible shooting maladies come to mind here. Could be you are shooting directly into strong winds? That will suppress your shots low. If you have a perfect pellet-on-pellet zero something is changing the harmonic of the rifle in your aim when you set up to field-shoot. Could be a result of inconsistent hold technique? You must always shoot the rifle with the same relaxed, unstressed imposition on it, as when you were zeroing your scope. Are you certain you are shooting to within your zero range? A target 10 yards further beyond will result in shots going low. At 50 yards with .22 you will be going as much as 4-inches low from your original zero point. With a PCP this sounds like a range-estimation error. The rifling twist will also be affected by the wind. Here is a useful wind clock for everyone to use. It won't give the actual amount, but it shows the direction the wind will affect your impact. Edited October 3, 2013 by Acuspell 2 Quote Link to post
Craig Fosse 286 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Accuspell, that's a nice little picture there mate I have stolen it to put next to my Mildots on my flip up cover Quote Link to post
shadow_sniper 47 Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 cheers for your help guys nick Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Night shooting puts another slant on range estimation. Together with the wind component. Even the most proficient shooters can come unstuck with accurate range estimation at night with lamps. Also. if you change your zero mag setting to a lower one for shooting by a night lamp light setting, that too can possibly change your pellet's Point Of Impact. Funny old thing shooting ain't it! I think you'll have this sorted out soon NIck All the best. Simon 1 Quote Link to post
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