Long-Term Jobless To Do Unpaid Work Or Lose Benefits

[Catcher 1 639]

What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ?

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play

 

35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings

 

but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element

 

 

When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it

 

but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que

[scothunter 12,609]

 

yea but my point was paulus they are having to pay it from money they get to buy food and clothe themselfs and gas/electric.

they have a choice to pay what they can. could you survive on 57 quid a week even if part of your rent was paid it wouldn't even cover my utilities never mind food

 

they have a choice?

[paulus 26]

propaganda...........

never

[paulus 26]

 

 

yea but my point was paulus they are having to pay it from money they get to buy food and clothe themselfs and gas/electric.

they have a choice to pay what they can. could you survive on 57 quid a week even if part of your rent was paid it wouldn't even cover my utilities never mind food

 

they have a choice?

 

you have a choice what and what not to pay as you can not afford to pay them all, water rates are the first to go, as they can no longer cut you off

[stealthy1 3,964]

What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ?

 

For me, both

 

 

 

 

 

 

just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play

 

35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings

 

but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element

 

 

When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it

 

but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que

 

 

I like the 2 year no benefits idea even better

[paulus 26]

 

What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ?

 

For me, both

 

 

 

 

 

 

just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play

 

35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings

 

but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element

 

 

When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it

 

but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que

 

 

I like the 2 year no benefits idea even better

 

its as simple or as difficult as you need to make it dependant on what you need to hide within it

[scothunter 12,609]

you dont pay it then the council will evict you.maybe thats there idea. free up housing for the next load of romanins and bulgarians lol

[stealthy1 3,964]

you dont pay it then the council will evict you.maybe thats there idea. free up housing for the next load of romanins and bulgarians lol

 

 

That's because they will have jobs

[paulus 26]

you dont pay it then the council will evict you.maybe thats there idea. free up housing for the next load of romanins and bulgarians lol

no mate the council is only interested in council tax and rent,

[The Seeker 3,048]

 

yea but my point was paulus they are having to pay it from money they get to buy food and clothe themselfs and gas/electric.

 

they have a choice to pay what they can. could you survive on 57 quid a week even if part of your rent was paid it wouldn't even cover my utilities never mind food

I could if I got the rest of the trimmings that go with it for serial work swervers

 

Rent paid for

Council tax credit

Disability living allowence

Motorbility (free car)

Child benifit

Job seekers allowence

 

Etc etc

[paulus 26]

 

you dont pay it then the council will evict you.maybe thats there idea. free up housing for the next load of romanins and bulgarians lol

 

 

That's because they will have jobs

 

this thread just proves how ridiculous these conference headlines are

[Chid 6,508]

i think this would be a good idea, aslong as theres a chance you would get took on full time .

 

im unemployed have been for a while , id love the chance to get back into work its just there is none round me that im suitable for ...or so im told when i get my refusals from them . but if i was given a chance to work there on a trial i know i could land the job ...

 

so if this was thought out right i think it would be a good thing

[paulus 26]

 

 

yea but my point was paulus they are having to pay it from money they get to buy food and clothe themselfs and gas/electric.

they have a choice to pay what they can. could you survive on 57 quid a week even if part of your rent was paid it wouldn't even cover my utilities never mind food

I could if I got the rest of the trimmings that go with it for serial work swervers

 

Rent paid for

Council tax credit

Disability living allowence

Motorbility (free car)

Child benifit

Job seekers allowence

 

Etc etc

 

the point is you would need to qualify and all bar jobseekers are available to people in work who qualify as well

[scothunter 12,609]

 

 

yea but my point was paulus they are having to pay it from money they get to buy food and clothe themselfs and gas/electric.

they have a choice to pay what they can. could you survive on 57 quid a week even if part of your rent was paid it wouldn't even cover my utilities never mind food

I could if I got the rest of the trimmings that go with it for serial work swervers

 

Rent paid for

Council tax credit

Disability living allowence

Motorbility (free car)

Child benifit

Job seekers allowence

 

Etc etc

 

wasnt who i was meaning though mate. im talking about someone on basic dole money.