starting a terrier

[zap 4]

right folks looking for info on getting terriers started for fox work ,As someone who will never get massive numbers and is no where near as knowlegable as most on here i want some advice quiet simly because i'm a believer that if you dont ask you'll never learn ,so how do you lads get them going ,i've heard of people showing them at the end of a dig others just letting them watch whats going on and then giving them there chance once they seem keen enough o and the one i deffo wont be doing letting the young dog in next to an older dog even i know thats wrong ,my older bitch entered an earth her self whilst out mooching about when she was around 14 months and since then has never let me down on foxes but like i say i dont get many so she has never been worked hard ,had she been worked hard she may not have been as keen so whats the best way in you lads opinions

thanks

[deerhound working 3]

depends i dont work mine till there about 2 i give them a look in the pocket once and the next time they have go from the mouth but i always pick my holes nothing to deep get them out fast on the first few give them plenty of confiance and you can leave them longer and longer as they get better

[zap 4]

cheers mate 49 views and you were the only one that could answer it makes me wonder how many lads on here are in the same league as me ,thanks again mate

[THE POACHER 13]

zap peg them out on a few digs and you will see if she is intreasted give her one or 2 looks in the block no more as she will depend on just looking at the block when you think the bitch is ready let her go in a easy place but always rember not every terrier is put out for earth work see you soon mate

 

im having hell with my 2 at the moment

[Guest COMPUTER HUNTER]

just take it easy mate dont expect to much of the little dog just take her along and tie her up so she is watching all that goes on the other dog going to ground ect giv her a few rags on the dead fox then once you think shes ready show her something not to much butt enough to see if shes keen then hold her back for a couple of weeks so its all building up in her head tie her back up after she has had a little look then a copule of weeks later give her a another look like that but not to much mate as they start to depend on block ends and in the end they wont wont to find as they know they can have a bit of glory at the end once another dog has done all the hard work, once you think she is confident enought try her in a nice small place where it wont be to hard for her to find her fox iv seen people enter young dogs in big places and they know its there butt cant find it then it dont give them any confidence as when they find in a small place for the 1st time it will always stick in their heads, never give up trying mate give them time to mature and come into their selves i got a russel dog here he has got to be five now and its only these last 2 seasons he has clicked and he has turned out the best terrier iv had good luck mate keep us posted on how it goes

Edited September 1, 2007 by COMPUTER HUNTER

[zap 4]

hows the pups mother going have you been doing much with her

[Guest COMPUTER HUNTER]

to be honest mate a so called mate had her and sold her when i said she is to come back if she goes anywhere there are some arseholes about

[Guest pikey]

one i deffo wont be doing letting the young dog in next to an older dog even i know thats wrong

 

ZAP, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH LEAVING A YOUNG DOG THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DUG GO UP BEHIND A GOOD WORKING TERRIER IN A NICE LIGHT EARTH THAT HAS BEEN DUG BEFORE. I WOULD NOT LEAVE A STRANGE TERRIER TO GROUND ( SOME ONE ELSES DOG) IN WITH MY OWN DOG. I HAVE AND WILL ALWAYS LEAVE A YOUNG TERRIER THAT I BRED, LOSE WHILE I DIG, IT A BONUS TO SEE SEE THEM GO TO GROUND, WHEN YOU DIG THE YOUNG DOG IN THE COMPANY OF ANOTHER DOG, THEN THATS THE FIRST AND LAST TIME YOU SHOULD ALLOW THE DOG TO GROUND WITH ANOTHER DOG. SOME YOUNG DOGS GO TO GROUND LIKE A DUCK TO WATER, OTHERS HAD TO BE LED LIKE I JUST EXPLAINED. IN ALL MY YEARS DIGGING WITH OTHER TERRIER MEN, THEY ALL SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS. THE ONLY LADS THAT SEE ITS WRONG THIS WAY ARE THE LADS THAT DO ALL THERE DIGGING ON THE COMPUTER

[Butler 396]

Can't believe what i've just read No terrier man that i know thinks it's good to have two dogs to ground in the same earth what ever the circumstances

[Guest pikey]

BUTLER, YOUR EITHER A DAY DREAMER OR A MUPPET OR PERHAPS BOTH !!

[Butler 396]

you could be right or it could just be i do things diffrent to you But i find it funny a man with pic of matey looking out of a hole end as his avatar on a public forum calling me a muppet. Edited September 2, 2007 by Butler

[Guest SHOT]

i cant see a problem with it butler ive not done this myself but ive let pups run empty spots in behind a dog on occasion never a problem.

not the same thing i know but if you know the spot and can get to them easy enough...i wouldnt rule it out if it helped get a dog going.

its a far cry from them that regularly work two and more dogs in one place, its not the same.

[Butler 396]

Big difference from letting a pup run an empty earth behind an adult dog " i don't do that either" than letting them in behind a dog working it's quarry i don't care how easy the place is. It only takes a minute for a keen pup to chew into the arse end of the adult or push it into it game. But if you guys want to risk your tykes then crack on but i find a well bred pup will want to go on it's own when the time is right it's in there genes

Edited September 2, 2007 by Butler

[cdnhastings 23]

And lads what if there isnta senior dog about, what then, any advice for a fella with no senior dogs or dogs with experience. I'm sure there are people on here who are going to run into that situation as well .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Just thought i'd chip in my thoughts as they are far from some of you .I would never ,ever, start a young dog behind,infront or to either side of another dog no matter what .The best way for me is for the dog to enter of its own accord in a small place and dug to as soon as the ground will allow .Dont be too hasty in pulling quarry out once shot as I think this is the road to that sin of all sins when a terrier jumps out as you break in .Let the youngster savour the moment as should you . Preferably an earth that has been marked by an experienced dog should be chosen .This way to me has proven to produce good finding and staying dogs .Some youngsters ive seen started by other methods seem to want to fly in and out every hole expecting a stop end .Every effort should be made to get the dog steady to work and not an excitable cretin .In other words ,only a few words of encouragement to go to ground and not the hysterics I have seen .False marking or a terrier flying to ground anywhere ,regardless of whether or not quarry is at home can result in over excitement .Dont be pressured into entering a young dog just because so and so said it should be going .You know the terrier best and will know when its ready .Keep the dog winning with several easy-ish digs for a while and then hopefully you will have the start of a long career .Best of luck and good hunting all .