Scottish Independence

[The Seeker 3,048]

I saw something on Facebook the other day. Now I'm sure I'm correct in saying that Norway is a very rich and prosperous place, less people than us but survives on Oil. Is that correct? If so why is it impossible that Scotland would fail?. At this current time I am neither for or against to be honest I would need serious facts and figures to vote either way.

What I don't understand is why Presidente Salmond automatically assumes he will just take control of the oil. Is it not a British enterprise in Scottish waters? I reckon the rest of the UK won't just allow the taps to be turned off without some form of major compensation.

At this debate I saw the pro independence speakers couldn't answer the question will free prescriptions, free university fees continue, will they seek to join the European Union in fact all they could say is the oil will mean they will be better off.

I would want to know much more info before going it alone, and as said if scots want it then have it but independence must mean complete independence.

[Malt 379]

 

 

I saw something on Facebook the other day. Now I'm sure I'm correct in saying that Norway is a very rich and prosperous place, less people than us but survives on Oil. Is that correct? If so why is it impossible that Scotland would fail?. At this current time I am neither for or against to be honest I would need serious facts and figures to vote either way.

Norway has got a lot more oil than Scotland/the UK..

So do they pump it out faster than us or what cause having more I can't see that being an issue.. Unless we are going to run out??

Its going to run out at some point, there's loads left but basing your entire future on a finite resource ain't the wisest of moves.. What happens if 20/30 years time there's a huge breakthrough in clean or alternative energy and the price of oil drops through the floor?

[Malt 379]

 

I saw something on Facebook the other day. Now I'm sure I'm correct in saying that Norway is a very rich and prosperous place, less people than us but survives on Oil. Is that correct? If so why is it impossible that Scotland would fail?. At this current time I am neither for or against to be honest I would need serious facts and figures to vote either way.

What I don't understand is why Presidente Salmond automatically assumes he will just take control of the oil. Is it not a British enterprise in Scottish waters? I reckon the rest of the UK won't just allow the taps to be turned off without some form of major compensation.

At this debate I saw the pro independence speakers couldn't answer the question will free prescriptions, free university fees continue, will they seek to join the European Union in fact all they could say is the oil will mean they will be better off.

I would want to know much more info before going it alone, and as said if scots want it then have it but independence must mean complete independence.

Saw a report a while back, said a huge part of the oil industry up there is foreign owned. A huge slice of the profits from north sea oil disappears from the UK and we don't see a penny of it..

[Its_grim_up_norf 577]

plus thanks to maggie oil is owned by private companies, some in london, most of them on the continent...so scotland doesnt actually own that oil. The companies do.

[scothunter 12,609]

you could say that about saudi,its not them that pump it out of the ground,im certainly not for independence,and have no confidence in salmon or his kabal.however like i said it will hurt over the border as much aswill here.i dont know if scotland could actually go it alone,but its not a risk i would try on the scottish people,especially just to pander to one mans over inflated ego.dangerous gamble imo

[paulus 26]

it would significantly reduce the north south divide

[scothunter 12,609]

aye by some small minded bigots

[Catcher 1 639]

No one can tell for now what will happen if we get independence.Sure they can predict and thats all they can do.Rather live in a great Scotland than a great britain

[haymin 2,465]

Doesn't matter If it happens or not still be a bunch o dicks that runs the show the people won't benefit it'll be salmon that gets richer

[Rake aboot 4,935]

The oil that we pump out on our rig, is secured by the South Korean govt. Wee fat fucksalmond doesn`t see any off it,

 

He is just playing to the crowds, so he can get a statue in Glesga wee fat hoor.

[scothunter 12,609]

The oil that we pump out on our rig, is secured by the South Korean govt. Wee fat fucksalmond doesn`t see any off it,

 

He is just playing to the crowds, so he can get a statue in Glesga wee fat hoor.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

What I don't understand is why Presidente Salmond automatically assumes he will just take control of the oil. Is it not a British enterprise in Scottish waters? I reckon the rest of the UK won't just allow the taps to be turned off without some form of major compensation.

At this debate I saw the pro independence speakers couldn't answer the question will free prescriptions, free university fees continue, will they seek to join the European Union in fact all they could say is the oil will mean they will be better off.

I would want to know much more info before going it alone, and as said if scots want it then have it but independence must mean complete independence.

 

I think they would have to join the EU to keep the social programs moving. That's more tax for the average Scotsman.

 

Its going to run out at some point, there's loads left but basing your entire future on a finite resource ain't the wisest of moves.. What happens if 20/30 years time there's a huge breakthrough in clean or alternative energy and the price of oil drops through the floor?

 

There will be alternatives but not until the black stuff is all but gone. They're not going to sit on trillions of £'s in revenue and allow clean renewable energy.

 

you could say that about saudi,its not them that pump it out of the ground,im certainly not for independence,and have no confidence in salmon or his kabal.however like i said it will hurt over the border as much aswill here.i dont know if scotland could actually go it alone,but its not a risk i would try on the scottish people,especially just to pander to one mans over inflated ego.dangerous gamble imo

 

It's a ruse. Divide and conquer. It's easier for the European overlords to control two small, independent, countries than one larger more powerful one. Look at some of the old Soviet republics...

[Joe67 239]

What happens to Scotland in 50 years when the Oil and Gas is gone ?

 

We all know it

 

We are ALL better of as a Union.

 

Salmon is in it for his own ends

 

If Scots cant see that and they are dumb enough to let a fat ,smarmy cnut like him Lead them then so be it.

 

Either a Union or Total Independance

 

Lock ' Stock

 

No half measures.

 

 

what would britan do when the oil runs out? if scotland does vote yes and we control the oil, it would have a big inpact on westminister. scotland can stand on its own, more than oil bringing the £ in, id rather scotlands money was spent on improving scotland.

 

 

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The most recent available statistics show Scotland received 9.3% of UK spending to run our services, but generated 9.9% of UK taxes. In 2011/12, Scotland’s finances were stronger than the UK’s as a whole by £4.4 billion, or £824 per person according to official National Statistics.

 

 

 

No NHS no Armed Services, no social welfare or subsidies Scotland must stand on its own.

 

 

 

Yes, the National Health Service is currently run by the Scottish Parliament and Government and will remain so. In terms of health policy, Scotland is already effectively independent.

The Scottish Government will continue to fund all the health services it currently provides, including cross-border services. Medical experts have already made clear that the contracts already in place to provide for cross-border treatment would carry on in exactly the same way.

EU Directives protect our access to cross-border treatment, and there are also seperate agreements in place with countries outwith Europe.

 

Scotland would have its own defence forces and would inherit and maintain our military bases and regiments. We would continue to work in partnership with other nations. It would be for future Scottish Governments to shape a defence policy best suited to the country’s needs. Our defence profile could be similar to neighbouring nations such as Denmark, Sweden, Finland or Norway. Scotland’s contribution to UK defence spending is around £3.3billion. Experts from the Royal United Services Institute have confirmed that this would be more than enough to support a defence force that could be “extraordinarily good” by 2030. The UK Government only spend around £2 billion of the defence budget in Scotland. The SNP advocate a defence budget of £2.5 billion – less than we currently contribute, and more than is currently spent. We would get rid of Trident nuclear weapons from Scotland, saving money that could be bette spent elsewhere. Crucially, it would be for the Scottish Government to decide whether members of the Scottish defence forces should be sent abroad in support of international action.

 

plus thanks to maggie oil is owned by private companies, some in london, most of them on the continent...so scotland doesnt actually own that oil. The companies do.

International law dictates that around 90% of the UK’s oil revenues come from the Scottish sector of the Continental Shelf.

 

 

 

 

ill be voting yes, one things certin.. we wont be any worse off!

[scothunter 12,609]

dont kid yourself,and ifyou think for one min every scottish person is going to benefit from this oil,you are sadly mistaken. what isnt guzzled up by brussels.will be squandered by salmond on daft schemes and unworkable practises.ill piss myself laughing when it goes agaist you braveheart brigade.lol

[Joe67 239]

you have read to much scaremongering, we wont be any worse off, think theres more to gain. id rather salmond/snp over cameron/torys any day.