A Bit Of Background.

[beast 1,884]

 

seen some cracking beardie bred lurchers in the past, and my current stock have a good dose in them, brings a little something to a dog that is sometimes lacking in border crosses. best of luck finding the RIGHT homes for those pups

Ive yet to encounter a mutt that suffered because of its Border heritage,or found them lacking,i possibly cannot have searched or worked them hard enough?.

 

 

now dont think i'm knocking the border cross because i love them. the point i'm making is that some people find borders oversensitive, some find they are clingy, some find they lack initiative. personally i suspect these "faults" are often down to the trainer more than the dog, but nevertheless i have not seen these issues in the beardie crosses i have been around. i should add i have not seen these issues in my own border crosses over the years, but they are the things which keep cropping up when people have issues, bird off here will tell you his border cross is sensitive i suspect he might get on better with a beardie blooded dog.

do you get what i'm trying to say, i know that was a bit of a ramble!

[Magpie 102]

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[bird 9,864]

 

 

seen some cracking beardie bred lurchers in the past, and my current stock have a good dose in them, brings a little something to a dog that is sometimes lacking in border crosses. best of luck finding the RIGHT homes for those pups

Ive yet to encounter a mutt that suffered because of its Border heritage,or found them lacking,i possibly cannot have searched or worked them hard enough?.

 

 

now dont think i'm knocking the border cross because i love them. the point i'm making is that some people find borders oversensitive, some find they are clingy, some find they lack initiative. personally i suspect these "faults" are often down to the trainer more than the dog, but nevertheless i have not seen these issues in the beardie crosses i have been around. i should add i have not seen these issues in my own border crosses over the years, but they are the things which keep cropping up when people have issues, bird off here will tell you his border cross is sensitive i suspect he might get on better with a beardie blooded dog.

do you get what i'm trying to say, i know that was a bit of a ramble!

 

 

yeh true, i find border collie temp to sensitve for me really, ok they make good lurchers,and good rabbit dogs, but it does get on your nerves, with this fawning nature.Infact it was 1 of the reasons i went went for a 1x gsdx grey, as they are supposed to have a tougher type temp,?.But never had a beardie x , they reckon like the border but bit more bolder,? think these pups would be great lurchers, from good working parents i think if i was after a proper working colliex grey ,i would give him a shout.

[wuyang 513]

I think a touch of good beardie blood makes them shine when it comes to daytime hunting/mooching over a straight border collie lurcher.......especially when there's not much about. I can't for the life of me understand why they're not more common.

[boyo 1,398]

really like the look of that galan dog stunning looking animal .anyone looking for a collie cross could not go wrong with one of these pips imo.good luck finding them good homes

[Country Joe 1,411]

Magpie, years ago there was a herd who worked on the side of the hill on that famous South West Scotland landmark Criffel, i'm sure he had working Beardies and his name was Muirhead, cant remember his first name.

I wonder if it was from him that Hancock got his original Beardies?

[beast 1,884]

Magpie, years ago there was a herd who worked on the side of the hill on that famous South West Scotland landmark Criffel, i'm sure he had working Beardies and his name was Muirhead, cant remember his first name.

I wonder if it was from him that Hancock got his original Beardies?

 

his name was tom. i'm pretty sure hancock had some off him if i remember rightly

[darbo 4,774]

Magpie, years ago there was a herd who worked on the side of the hill on that famous South West Scotland landmark Criffel, i'm sure he had working Beardies and his name was Muirhead, cant remember his first name.

I wonder if it was from him that Hancock got his original Beardies?

cj if you go on the link magpie put up at the start of the thread look on scotland and tom muirhead it explains all the areas he farmed and his history with beardies. Hancock got remus as a pup from tom muirhead.

[Magpie 102]

The unfortunate/ fortunate thing depending on how you look at it was that when Tommy died Mr D B Plummer bought up his entire stock.

 

Sadley now most of the decendents of his dogs are owned by the rather odd bunch known as the Working Bearded Collie society.

 

Anyone looking to purchase a working Beardie pup would do well to avoid this lot like the plague. The dogs they have are only workers in name. Most have never seen Sheep or Cattle let alone work them.

 

It's a shame as the society was started by those who hold the working values of the Beardie close to their hearts. As ever the wrong sort got involved and it gradually went to the wall. Those who should be running it just walked away.

 

You can find true workers if you look hard enough. More folk own them than you think but do do your homework. There has be a recent spate of folk advertising Beardies for sale that are actually more Border than Beardie. These folk just don't realise the damage they do.

[Country Joe 1,411]

There appeared to be a few in my area, looking at the info, I haven't come across many,

used to know a Farmer who had a Border X Beardie, said it was a useful dog, better on Cattle than the Border.

[Magpie 102]

I think the general consensus is that Beardies are better for Cattle work. They certainly seem to take very well to the task.

 

Modern farming methods and the increased interest in trialing is largely responsible for the Beardies fall from favour. Slow maturity has also played a part. It certainly isn't due to them failing as a herding breed as some would suggest . Quite frankly comments like that are laughable and poorly thought out.

 

There are those who have dedicated their live to preserving the true working Beardie along with its true attributes. Long may they continue.

 

These people are far from just enthusiasts and value the Beardies avilty extremely highly.

 

It's personal preferences at the end of the day. I get on very well with my type and would never consider changing to anything else, but I can appreciate any good dog regardless of breeding.

[Magpie 102]

Bump.

[Hot Meat 3,109]

realy wish i had the work for a 3rd runner, hope you get real good homes mate

[Magpie 102]

Cheers fella.

[long dog 125]

magpie

whats the difference between a working berdie and a border ,

some nice pups there [BANNED TEXT] all the best with them sorry to here about delta.

ATB long dog