Managing High Drive Dogs

[paulsmithy83 567]

 

 

I only read casso part lol but to me for the topic title . a shit load of work night and day. I'm yet to find a dog out of control or struggled with regardless of cross even with shit loads of drive if worked hard enough. Usually most have probs because they ain't out enough just my take

I once owned a dog,old Blue,the original type HJKC,lamped him,ferreted him,coursed him and worked him with the terriers,the dog was a working machine.At times he would have his Blue days and attack anything in range,quarry,dog or human,he rarely gave signals of his intention,just did what he saw best at times,no amount of training or education could account for his drive,mood,or manner,if he was not such a reliable catching and killing machine the dog would have been a cull,none of my hunting partners at the time would take a dog out with him,or enter a vehicle he was in,he was that unpredictable,a little harsh treatment to his less than desirable demeanor was the salvation of the dog,you had to belt him as soon as he left the vehicle,then he worked flawlessly.How would anyone train that sort of dog reasonably and with a gentler touch?.

That dog just got issues lol I wouldn't put that down to drive just personality of the dog. As you said takes firm handler with these type and an owner sensible enough to know what Is needed and when. But generally with very high drive work em 5 days or nights a week push them to there limit they seem to settle in. Just needed to release all that drive. Some might take 1 night a week other 6 lol but every dog has its happy medium. But yours Morton goes way above drive lol

[gravedigger 87]

How would you channel prey drive in a young dog whose in for a lengthy lay up with a serious injury involving him losing an eye ??? Hes been out walks,runnin off lead but hes always happiest when actually hunting !! Which wont be any time soon if again.. thanks..gravedigger

[matt1979 766]

Got a dog here that was highly driven as a youngster, admittedly not a running dog it was a herder and would literally herd anything that moved. Followed the modern approaches as guided and read about with limited success and I was no newby to working dogs having spent most of my youth on a farm with collies and grown up with various running dogs and working terriers. Continued this training with limited success controlling the dogs herding instinct for 12 months until I lost my rag and gave the dog a good hiding (not proud of this) but I can honestly say the dog has been a different dog since and much more settled. Now I am not condoning hitting a dog and the dog in question is tough as old boots and wasn't hurt at all physically, but the vast majority of dogs owners nowadays are far too soft on their animals and I have seen this in owners of working dogs as well often being described as drive when really the dog hasn't been taught basic manners. The running dogs I have grown up with were all laid back characters on the whole and drive was never an issue when in and around the house and general walks (as I little kid I could walk any of my dads workers when he was shift working no problems), I would struggle with a dog that couldn't switch off as I don't personally think this is positive for dog or owner. However, their is little doubt that these laid back dogs were that way because they were exercised and worked daily and sadly I feel todays pet dog and sometimes so called workers don't see the exercise they deserve and hence the problems appear, I have never meet a dog that is highly driven or badly behaved well it sleeps or knackered, although one of mine does let off some shocking smells to be fair when alseep. Just my opinion cheers.

[sandymere 8,263]

Call it what you will but dogs that get a little hyper on the way to the field are the first one to run into problems once there, hyperventilation (panting) will alter the body’s biochemistry quickly causing an alkalosis which will have an effect on there ability to cope with the real stress of work/running and thats without considering the extra heat created. Get them used to the trip and used to lying down quietly in the motor, best done from a pup but can be done with an adult with a bit of training. No good running the race before you get there.

[paulus 26]

Call it what you will but dogs that get a little hyper on the way to the field are the first one to run into problems once there, hyperventilation (panting) will alter the body’s biochemistry quickly causing an alkalosis which will have an effect on there ability to cope with the real stress of work/running and thats without considering the extra heat created. Get them used to the trip and used to lying down quietly in the motor, best done from a pup but can be done with an adult with a bit of training. No good running the race before you get there.

it is said that vit E will have a calming effect on a hyper dog

[whippet 99 2,613]

 

Call it what you will but dogs that get a little hyper on the way to the field are the first one to run into problems once there, hyperventilation (panting) will alter the body’s biochemistry quickly causing an alkalosis which will have an effect on there ability to cope with the real stress of work/running and thats without considering the extra heat created. Get them used to the trip and used to lying down quietly in the motor, best done from a pup but can be done with an adult with a bit of training. No good running the race before you get there.

it is said that vit E will have a calming effect on a hyper dog

 

ecstacy.........?

[leegreen 2,181]

Drive, drive, don't talk to me about fecking drive. I've got a 8 month old Malinois dog pup here and it's bursting at the seams with drive.

It has by far tested my capabilities of dog training and patience. I have given it every thing I've got, taken it else where for professional help and I'm nearly there.

This is gonna be a superb dog.

Drive, you've gotta have it.

Edited September 17, 2013 by leegreen

[paulus 26]

 

 

Call it what you will but dogs that get a little hyper on the way to the field are the first one to run into problems once there, hyperventilation (panting) will alter the body’s biochemistry quickly causing an alkalosis which will have an effect on there ability to cope with the real stress of work/running and thats without considering the extra heat created. Get them used to the trip and used to lying down quietly in the motor, best done from a pup but can be done with an adult with a bit of training. No good running the race before you get there.

it is said that vit E will have a calming effect on a hyper dog

 

ecstacy.........?

 

that might work on a whippet

[whippet 99 2,613]

 

 

 

Call it what you will but dogs that get a little hyper on the way to the field are the first one to run into problems once there, hyperventilation (panting) will alter the body’s biochemistry quickly causing an alkalosis which will have an effect on there ability to cope with the real stress of work/running and thats without considering the extra heat created. Get them used to the trip and used to lying down quietly in the motor, best done from a pup but can be done with an adult with a bit of training. No good running the race before you get there.

it is said that vit E will have a calming effect on a hyper dog

 

ecstacy.........?

 

that might work on a whippet

 

a fooking rocket up the ass be better for my useless thing..lol

[littlefish 586]

Drive, drive, don't talk to me about fecking drive. I've got a 8 month old Malinois dog pup here and it's bursting at the seams with drive.

It has by far tested my capabilities of dog training and patience. I have given it every thing I've got, taken it else where for professional help and I'm nearly there.

This is gonna be a superb dog.

Drive, you've gotta have it.

 

Have you owned/worked with this type of breed before? I know a few that are 'full on'.....

[leegreen 2,181]

 

Drive, drive, don't talk to me about fecking drive. I've got a 8 month old Malinois dog pup here and it's bursting at the seams with drive.

It has by far tested my capabilities of dog training and patience. I have given it every thing I've got, taken it else where for professional help and I'm nearly there.

This is gonna be a superb dog.

Drive, you've gotta have it.

 

Have you owned/worked with this type of breed before? I know a few that are 'full on'.....

 

 

No.

This dog came from Belgium, he was the higher drive pup out of two.dog pups. I ended up with him because I have the time and place to absorb his energy.

I have been asked to train for a UK team, but I'm afraid that's just not me. Training twice a week and a hours drive to the training ground.

The dog is a general farm dog come hunting companion, a family pet and protector.

I already have a stud lined up the kennels where I train him occasionally are very interested in him.

[littlefish 586]

 

 

Drive, drive, don't talk to me about fecking drive. I've got a 8 month old Malinois dog pup here and it's bursting at the seams with drive.

It has by far tested my capabilities of dog training and patience. I have given it every thing I've got, taken it else where for professional help and I'm nearly there.

This is gonna be a superb dog.

Drive, you've gotta have it.

 

Have you owned/worked with this type of breed before? I know a few that are 'full on'.....

 

 

No.

This dog came from Belgium, he was the higher drive pup out of two.dog pups. I ended up with him because I have the time and place to absorb his energy.

I have been asked to train for a UK team, but I'm afraid that's just not me. Training twice a week and a hours drive to the training ground.

The dog is a general farm dog come hunting companion, a family pet and protector.

I already have a stud lined up the kennels where I train him occasionally are very interested in him.

 

 

Good luck - sounds like you have a great opportunity to work with this dog - hope you rise to the challenge and manage to channel his energy in the right direction

[REED1 1]

I have worked both and find it far more frustrating to work a low drive dog than a high drive dog. Most high drive dogs can be managed w/ plenty of exercise and regular obedience work. You can't push a rope.

 

Reed