Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) Baw, I know that time is not tangable, I asked if it existed as a concept out side of the earth? Except for a mathimatical probability, no one can say for definite that it does? TC Edited September 13, 2013 by tiercel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,817 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 What is time............. that's a fecking head wreck! T, there's no reason to believe that time doesn't exist outside of our observable part of the universe. It's a real part of physics but also the very most fundamental part of physics. You've asked the question "if a branch falls in a wood but no one hears it does it make a sound?" yes of course it does. Likewise time is still prevalent in our absence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Baw 3 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 What is time............. that's a fecking head wreck! T, there's no reason to believe that time doesn't exist outside of our observable part of the universe. It's a real part of physics but also the very most fundamental part of physics. You've asked the question "if a branch falls in a wood but no one hears it does it make a sound?" yes of course it does. Likewise time is still prevalent in our absence. Do you know something born, the tree example was exactly the same example I was going to give but your wrong, the tree doesn't make a sound if no one is there to hear it you see, sound is vibration of the air, it needs to vibrate off our ear drum to hear it so..... No ear drums no sound Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Baw 3 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Baw, I know that time is not tangable, I asked if it existed as a concept out side of the earth? Except for a mathimatical probability, no one can say for definite that it does? TC Course it does mate. Time is as real as gravity, speed and distance. Just the other ones I mentioned we can actually see them working. Time for us is a clock on the wall but its far more complex than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,817 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 What is time............. that's a fecking head wreck! T, there's no reason to believe that time doesn't exist outside of our observable part of the universe. It's a real part of physics but also the very most fundamental part of physics. You've asked the question "if a branch falls in a wood but no one hears it does it make a sound?" yes of course it does. Likewise time is still prevalent in our absence. Do you know something born, the tree example was exactly the same example I was going to give but your wrong, the tree doesn't make a sound if no one is there to hear it you see, sound is vibration of the air, it needs to vibrate off our ear drum to hear it so..... No ear drums no sound I'm sat in a room full of physicists that beg to differ chap. You won't hear it, because to do that you need an ear, but it 100% makes a sound. A compressional wave will be induced, which by deffinition is acoustic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,817 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Baw, I know that time is not tangable, I asked if it existed as a concept out side of the earth? Except for a mathimatical probability, no one can say for definite that it does? TC Course it does mate. Time is as real as gravity, speed and distance. Just the other ones I mentioned we can actually see them working. Time for us is a clock on the wall but its far more complex than that. The problem with Time though is that we don't understand the mechanism for it, like space it's more fundamental than gravity, speed etc. The mechanism for the forces of nature are force carrying particles, speed is described by distance and time. But time and space are fundamental, they're b*****ds to explain because of that. Entropy increases with increasing time but that's about the bottom line. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Baw 3 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 What is time............. that's a fecking head wreck! T, there's no reason to believe that time doesn't exist outside of our observable part of the universe. It's a real part of physics but also the very most fundamental part of physics. You've asked the question "if a branch falls in a wood but no one hears it does it make a sound?" yes of course it does. Likewise time is still prevalent in our absence. Do you know something born, the tree example was exactly the same example I was going to give but your wrong, the tree doesn't make a sound if no one is there to hear it you see, sound is vibration of the air, it needs to vibrate off our ear drum to hear it so..... No ear drums no sound I'm sat in a room full of physicists that beg to differ chap. You won't hear it, because to do that you need an ear, but it 100% makes a sound. A compressional wave will be induced, which by deffinition is acoustic. I don't care if your siting with Einstein, without a receiver I.e an ear drum, all that will be produced is vibrating air. It only becomes sound when it is vibrated off the ear drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Baw, I know that time is not tangable, I asked if it existed as a concept out side of the earth? Except for a mathimatical probability, no one can say for definite that it does? TC Course it does mate. Time is as real as gravity, speed and distance. Just the other ones I mentioned we can actually see them working. Time for us is a clock on the wall but its far more complex than that. The problem with Time though is that we don't understand the mechanism for it, like space it's more fundamental than gravity, speed etc. The mechanism for the forces of nature are force carrying particles, speed is described by distance and time. But time and space are fundamental, they're b*****ds to explain because of that. Entropy increases with increasing time but that's about the bottom line. I knew thermodynamics would come into it somewhere, it always does! Got to laugh at Baw arguing physics with a physicist, you'd start an argument in a phone box mate! :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Baw, I know that time is not tangable, I asked if it existed as a concept out side of the earth? Except for a mathimatical probability, no one can say for definite that it does? TC Course it does mate. Time is as real as gravity, speed and distance. Just the other ones I mentioned we can actually see them working. Time for us is a clock on the wall but its far more complex than that. The problem with Time though is that we don't understand the mechanism for it, like space it's more fundamental than gravity, speed etc. The mechanism for the forces of nature are force carrying particles, speed is described by distance and time. But time and space are fundamental, they're b*****ds to explain because of that. Entropy increases with increasing time but that's about the bottom line. I knew thermodynamics would come into it somewhere, it always does! Got to laugh at Baw arguing physics with a physicist, you'd start an argument in a phone box mate! :laugh: Have a TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 What is time............. that's a fecking head wreck! T, there's no reason to believe that time doesn't exist outside of our observable part of the universe. It's a real part of physics but also the very most fundamental part of physics. You've asked the question "if a branch falls in a wood but no one hears it does it make a sound?" yes of course it does. Likewise time is still prevalent in our absence. Do you know something born, the tree example was exactly the same example I was going to give but your wrong, the tree doesn't make a sound if no one is there to hear it you see, sound is vibration of the air, it needs to vibrate off our ear drum to hear it so..... No ear drums no sound I'm sat in a room full of physicists that beg to differ chap. You won't hear it, because to do that you need an ear, but it 100% makes a sound. A compressional wave will be induced, which by deffinition is acoustic. I don't care if your siting with Einstein, without a receiver I.e an ear drum, all that will be produced is vibrating air. It only becomes sound when it is vibrated off the ear drum. argue wae any kunt you........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Baw 3 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'll give you an example..... Big crowd of folk, someone secretly blows a dog whistle..... No one hears it, it's out of our hearing frequency but a dog would. He's got the right receiver for it. To us there is no sound. Sound is only vibrating air at different frequencies. We can't hear radio waves, the electricity in our homes...... Unless your ear can pick up the frequency of the vibrating air, it isn't sound. And for anyone to suggest it is, is laughable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Baw 3 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Baw, I know that time is not tangable, I asked if it existed as a concept out side of the earth? Except for a mathimatical probability, no one can say for definite that it does? TC Course it does mate. Time is as real as gravity, speed and distance. Just the other ones I mentioned we can actually see them working. Time for us is a clock on the wall but its far more complex than that. The problem with Time though is that we don't understand the mechanism for it, like space it's more fundamental than gravity, speed etc. The mechanism for the forces of nature are force carrying particles, speed is described by distance and time. But time and space are fundamental, they're b*****ds to explain because of that. Entropy increases with increasing time but that's about the bottom line. I knew thermodynamics would come into it somewhere, it always does! Got to laugh at Baw arguing physics with a physicist, you'd start an argument in a phone box mate! :laugh: I'm f***ing right too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'll give you an example..... Big crowd of folk, someone secretly blows a dog whistle..... No one hears it, it's out of our hearing frequency but a dog would. He's got the right receiver for it. To us there is no sound. Sound is only vibrating air at different frequencies. We can't hear radio waves, the electricity in our homes...... Unless your ear can pick up the frequency of the vibrating air, it isn't sound. And for anyone to suggest it is, is laughable.a question that's been debated and reflected on by some of mankind's greatest minds over the past few thousand years solved by Baw in a nutshell, is there any end to the mans talents? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'll give you an example..... Big crowd of folk, someone secretly blows a dog whistle..... No one hears it, it's out of our hearing frequency but a dog would. He's got the right receiver for it. To us there is no sound. Sound is only vibrating air at different frequencies. We can't hear radio waves, the electricity in our homes...... Unless your ear can pick up the frequency of the vibrating air, it isn't sound. And for anyone to suggest it is, is laughable.a question that's been debated and reflected on by some of mankind's greatest minds over the past few thousand years solved by Baw in a nutshell, is there any end to the mans talents? so to expand on that theory, if i close my eyes and can not see the gun i won't get hurt as it doesn't exist because i can no longer see it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Baw 3 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'll give you an example..... Big crowd of folk, someone secretly blows a dog whistle..... No one hears it, it's out of our hearing frequency but a dog would. He's got the right receiver for it. To us there is no sound. Sound is only vibrating air at different frequencies. We can't hear radio waves, the electricity in our homes...... Unless your ear can pick up the frequency of the vibrating air, it isn't sound. And for anyone to suggest it is, is laughable.a question that's been debated and reflected on by some of mankind's greatest minds over the past few thousand years solved by Baw in a nutshell, is there any end to the mans talents? I know I know...... I'm wasted on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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