dytkos 17,793 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 smart pic, all the dogs look strong and capable, personally i like the strong front ends on them and i don't know if anyone else has noticed but for so much work on consecutive days after an obviously testing quarry there doesn't seem to be a lot of injuries / damage Looking at the pic, the dogs all look just like any other random lurchers, you'd have a job telling that they was Staghound in them IMO. Tidy workers though Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I'm not saying their the be all or end all.... But given the quarry, land and attitude to dogs held by some hunters out there.... I feel if you do your home work, you may find generally an all round tougher animal. Put to a very good coursing dog I think the offspring could potentially do some interesting things..... 1 Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Read deerhound and lurchers, Romany off here's book. Some fine looking touch working dogs grafters. i've had the book since it was 1st published ...........some of the dogs are crackers, one of my own bitches can be traced back to some of them............... i think the thing is these dogs have been tested on ground and quarry that we don't have for over a hundred years, our american cousins seem to have sussed better than many of our breeders the importance of culling and breeding for purpose from proven stock Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Speak to Dan mate, he's been saying for years that they ain't no different than what we got here BUT most of them fellas are more honest about 'em... Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 How do we know what we've got here? We can't put our theories to the test. Our good fox dogs may take a yote but equally they may chuck the towel in. On the flip side, how much trouble do you think a good yote dog would have with a fox? And how many lads in the uk run them on ground like that? Quote Link to post
BIGLURKS 874 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Couple of cross being thinking about lately are salukixbull colliexwhip and a bullxwhip all first crosses Quote Link to post
carlton chase 37 Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Glad this threads going well was dreading people taking the piss saying horse x lion and such Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Glad this threads going well was dreading people taking the piss saying horse x lion and such be patient young grasshopper.............it'll come 1 Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 we're breeding from dogs that win a few races or rosettes at shows, or from dogs that preban took a few foxes, munties or roe a few times during the season, or a bag of rabbits on the lamp, this lot seem to be taking truck loads of coyotes on numerous consecutive days and with a nights kip and some good feed they'll be ready to go again.........we wait for weeks on rain so our precious charges don't hurt themselves, these guys run on whatever ground they come across because thats where the quarry are only the very best make it to breeding age how many times on here are folks slagged for breeding unproven pups ? and a genuine question for the real guys who hunt, work and maybe breed their own........the litter on the ground over there just now with the big dollop of collie blood.......would breeding with one of them not add something to the allrounder type here that perhaps we couldn't find here ? 1 Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 we're breeding from dogs that win a few races or rosettes at shows, or from dogs that preban took a few foxes, munties or roe a few times during the season, or a bag of rabbits on the lamp, this lot seem to be taking truck loads of coyotes on numerous consecutive days and with a nights kip and some good feed they'll be ready to go again.........we wait for weeks on rain so our precious charges don't hurt themselves, these guys run on whatever ground they come across because thats where the quarry are only the very best make it to breeding age how many times on here are folks slagged for breeding unproven pups ? and a genuine question for the real guys who hunt, work and maybe breed their own........the litter on the ground over there just now with the big dollop of collie blood.......would breeding with one of them not add something to the allrounder type here that perhaps we couldn't find here ? Agree with what you've put there but I do think that we have the right ingredients over here as well its just that the approach to breeding that is different. Trying to import one is something I might look into in the next few years providing I thought that the person sending one over was of the right mindset Quote Link to post
bird 9,898 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 we're breeding from dogs that win a few races or rosettes at shows, or from dogs that preban took a few foxes, munties or roe a few times during the season, or a bag of rabbits on the lamp, this lot seem to be taking truck loads of coyotes on numerous consecutive days and with a nights kip and some good feed they'll be ready to go again.........we wait for weeks on rain so our precious charges don't hurt themselves, these guys run on whatever ground they come across because thats where the quarry are only the very best make it to breeding age how many times on here are folks slagged for breeding unproven pups ? and a genuine question for the real guys who hunt, work and maybe breed their own........the litter on the ground over there just now with the big dollop of collie blood.......would breeding with one of them not add something to the allrounder type here that perhaps we couldn't find here ? good point, they deff run on rougher ground all year from there posts, and any 30lb yote far more tougher to kill than any 18 lb dog fox, just tougher bred dogs for the land+quarry. Ithink jai right good stag x coursing dog could make great dog over here. Quote Link to post
neems 2,406 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I'd like to try a malinois x one day. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 What have the stags got in them that we haven't got over here? Genuine question. Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 What have the stags got in them that we haven't got over here? Genuine question. Nothing breed wise. they just have generation after generations of being run on hard ground and with all the weaker/lame/cowardly ones being shot without many 2nd chances being given, extract that out over many generations and you get the picture.. 1 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Them staghounds in the States ain't some mythical creature. I bet if coyotes where on our quarry list you'd get a few dogs here that would do them. 2 Quote Link to post
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