Springer Retrieving Help

[ferreting1888 7]

Hi guys been working on this the past week and im defo getting somewhere. I let her have it and walk around and also done a few retrieves each session. She is now bringing it to me walks around me once then tell her to sit and she comes into me and sits. Still need to work on it though to get it perfect. One question she turns her head away as i try to take it from her with the command dead any ideas how to help this part

Sean

[Philluk 181]

Couple of tips when she comes in at this stage don't use sit this is an automatic distraction and she will drop the dummy, get the retrieve right then add.

 

She is turning her head because you are concentrating on the dummy not the retrieve, when she comes in make a fuss a little scratch and good girl then take the dummy, so your making the dummy second then she will be pleased to come in.

[Casso 1,261]

With the retrieve I don't let the dog believe that bringing in an item as the end of an exercise

 

I start a pup off with two items so that bringing in the first gains access to the second without commands and only start using commands once the action is cemented as a way of gaining the other resource (second item)

 

A dog is always more interested in the potential energy of an item not the item it already has , it's the potential for more work or more excitement that plays into our hands

 

Lure the dog into a position while he has the first letting him see the second so the dog is actively trying to figure out a way to gaining access to it,

 

then he is open to learning , he is facing you with an open mind, let him focus on your face, he will focus on your eyes,

 

What we have then is a dog with a retrieve item in its mouth focusing on you, vibrate the second item akin to a bird ready to take flight this will stimulate prey instinct in the dog while putting your hand down to the first

 

Putting your hand down, will then will turn that negative action of the hand into a positive one, in the dogs mind your hand becomes instrumental to the second item taking flight , which is what the dog wants more than anything .

 

Programming the dog to make him believe that his actions caused something to happen is the key to dog training , he is training himself from the inside out not the outside in

 

Steadiness in a dog is a prelude to the hunt , he can make himself steady only if he believes it will gain him access to what he wants otherwise it will be a constant battle between dog and owner.

Best of luck

[camokev64 36]

With the retrieve I don't let the dog believe that bringing in an item as the end of an exercise

 

I start a pup off with two items so that bringing in the first gains access to the second without commands and only start using commands once the action is cemented as a way of gaining the other resource (second item)

 

A dog is always more interested in the potential energy of an item not the item it already has , it's the potential for more work or more excitement that plays into our hands

 

Lure the dog into a position while he has the first letting him see the second so the dog is actively trying to figure out a way to gaining access to it,

 

then he is open to learning , he is facing you with an open mind, let him focus on your face, he will focus on your eyes,

 

What we have then is a dog with a retrieve item in its mouth focusing on you, vibrate the second item akin to a bird ready to take flight this will stimulate prey instinct in the dog while putting your hand down to the first

 

Putting your hand down, will then will turn that negative action of the hand into a positive one, in the dogs mind your hand becomes instrumental to the second item taking flight , which is what the dog wants more than anything .

 

Programming the dog to make him believe that his actions caused something to happen is the key to dog training , he is training himself from the inside out not the outside in

 

Steadiness in a dog is a prelude to the hunt , he can make himself steady only if he believes it will gain him access to what he wants otherwise it will be a constant battle between dog and owner.

Best of luck

Some very good points to be gained from this reply,one being that you or your actions become the release mechanism to your dogs success...

 

Stick in.

[ferreting1888 7]

Thats a superb bit of info. I will start this 2nite after work and will let you know how she gets on

Thanks very much

Sean

[Blind Hawk 57]

Knew a guy who bought a springer...was told he would retreive anything from anywhere.Fifst day out with the new dog .shot a phesant ..out went the dog retrieved OK but would not release it .....back to the kennel the dog 2 days with the bird in his mouth ....Eat no food .nothing Saw this myself ......must say it was funny to see ......ANYWAY.......YOUR DOG MIGHT BE A LITTLE OLD TO START ANY NEW TRAINING .....BUT when it retrieves turn your back and walk on .let the dog come to you ..as above plenty of praise maby even a treat .............................happy hunting

[Philluk 181]

Knew a guy who bought a springer...was told he would retreive anything from anywhere.Fifst day out with the new dog .shot a phesant ..out went the dog retrieved OK but would not release it .....back to the kennel the dog 2 days with the bird in his mouth ....Eat no food .nothing Saw this myself ......must say it was funny to see ......ANYWAY.......YOUR DOG MIGHT BE A LITTLE OLD TO START ANY NEW TRAINING .....BUT when it retrieves turn your back and walk on .let the dog come to you ..as above plenty of praise maby even a treat .............................happy hunting

Well there are so many errors above I'm not surprised,

 

Whoever said you can't teach an old dog new tricks was also talking out of his @rse, there is no such thing as you put it your dog might be a little to old..... Nope dogs will always learn its the humans that need training more than dogs

Edited September 17, 2013 by Philluk

[04fox8 168]

Thats a superb bit of info. I will start this 2nite after work and will let you know how she gets on

Thanks very much

Sean

 

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