Eddie Chapman Russells

[Guest deerman]

i arent a dog peddlar mate and he winds me up, he reminds me of plummer good with the pen but full of shit when it comes to it ,i met him in caithness in 88 while visting a friend and if the man wasnt dead id say mr asshole was him.

[m.r1 7]

Redmoor, Believe it or not, I get bombarded with emails from like minded people, thank fully not by show men/women, I ONLY COMMENT ON TRUTH, and if it winds people up I cannot help that, the truth often hurts

 

Deerman, dug all around your area for many years, may even know me! know the decent terriermen in most parts and Ive also seen the so called terier men using 2 inferior terriers (variety of breeds) in easy spots, not saying you but you will have seen them, mainly Jonesy and Chapman bred terriers

 

The last part of your email a threat? Hope you can find better than Eddies russells, if you want to contact me to discuss your threat to me personal, email me direct your contact details and address details

 

Tally Ho

 

PS Frank has a snake belt in Karate and Karaoke

[Guest deerman]

yes sorry that was a bit strong, i can find better than eddies russells thats my job , been hunting bin laden in the mountains of afgan for 4 years but hey thats a different game ,thats work , sorry i didnt mean for it to come out like that, where you from?

[thurso jack 3]

Thurso Jack, you have shown your immaturity and lack of working terrier knowledge with your silly comments " bet hes still dug more quarry than you and your imaginery friend frank have" DO YOU WEAR A DRESS? Heres a saying for you next time your around the show ring "its the quality of the sett that can measure the quality of the terrier, see even idiots like you I try to help!

 

M.r1/frank whoever you are today? "DO YOU WEAR A DRESS?" No, why is that another of your fantasies as well as having imaginery friends??

 

Im afraid you can keep your thoughts and sayings to yourself IMO, as the one thing you strive to achieve on this forum "respect" has been unfortunately blown out of the window, due to the fact you felt the need to make up another name for yourself in order to back up your thoughts/opinions.

 

To me that smaks of someone who is insecure about themselves and has no substance, maybe im wrong? maybe you can tell me what your real reasons for creating a false account are? if its only the one other false account you have?

 

Now maybe i show and immatutity and lack of knowledge, but where have i ANYWHERE tried to say otherwise? i can openly admit what i am, it seems your double/triple membership proves you cannot?

 

All the best in whatever agenda you have, i for one am still trying to figure out what it is?

[ginga john 268]

Iv'e heard that m.r1 has a black belt in origami

[Guest shay]

Never seen the dogs work in any great form so couldn't really comment , but I always read with great interest Mr1's posts, a very knowledgable man with regards terrier work I might add but certainly one that likes to stir up the hornets nest

 

But I don't think for the majority of people bully boy tactics gain any equal respect and thats where you fall down Mr1, you talk at people instead of with them.

 

I cant comment on the Chapman russells but hear plenty throughout the seasons, I won't comment until i have seen enough of them to make up my own opinion.

[bolohan 0]

I too enjoy reading Mr1's posts. sometimes full of info, sometimes full of insults, sometimes full of s**t. i can tell he DOES know about WORKING terriers. that's why I like reading his posts. and I do laugh at the feathers he ruffles. don't know that line of blood (chapman russells) but enjoy dogs and hunting, P***Y too!

[gavmac 0]

No need to try and drag peoples names through the mud.

i think its plenty of reason,lots of folk that dont know the likes of mr chapman will be glad for knowing at least both sides views.

i agree with just about everything mr.1 has said ... where hes posted.

nothing malicious the only people i can see getting wound up by these kind of threads are those peddlars of sh*t who breed year in year out for the money,,, lots of that sort on here

sooner read this kind of thread "the truth"than the usual..my new pup...whats its name?best of luck with it crap you get...when ever you log on.

more of it

[m.r1 7]

Never seen the dogs work in any great form so couldn't really comment , but I always read with great interest Mr1's posts, a very knowledgable man with regards terrier work I might add but certainly one that likes to stir up the hornets nest

 

But I don't think for the majority of people bully boy tactics gain any equal respect and thats where you fall down Mr1, you talk at people instead of with them.

 

I cant comment on the Chapman russells but hear plenty throughout the seasons, I won't comment until i have seen enough of them to make up my own opinion.

 

 

Hello Shay, sorry if my terminology and words cause offence, that apology goes to all who may have been, or felt personaly offended as it was not meant to be (its my terrets)

 

I do intend to wind people up thats part of the crack, or os it? But I also get great pleasure in exposing liars and phonies who are pretending to be terrier men/women and are ruining (or have ruined) many breeds of terriers, have wasted the time and expence of young terrier lads. Yes Eddie is a terrierman, done a lot of digging during an era when a lot of terriermen done as much, but never ruined their breeds, I have respect for these people, they are still about today, some out of terrier work because of age but stil a wealth of knowledge.

 

Thurso Jack, I will express my thoughts and opinions as and when I see fit, I personaly dont wear a dress but my fella does! In relation to your remarks about earning respect, respect is earned whether in the terrier world or the so called normal world. In the terrier world, I respect my terriers, digging companions and the many true, genuine, honest working terriermen from all corners of our country I have had the pleaseure to Hunt and dig with over the years and I asume these people would not entertain me if there was no respect. (come to think of it I ned to speak with BT, my phone hasnt rang for a while!)

 

With out sounding like Plummer, or the perfect terrierman dictating to you, which I am not, if you are young and do wish to work your terriers, dont get blinded by the rossette brigade and there is a saying "you are only as good as the people around you", if you do not like what you see out in the field, move on, find another partner, easy said than done I know, but I would, and have, gone out on my own rather than suffer the shit and lies and the methods (2 terriers needed) of some people

 

Deerman, no probs, figures of speach, no need to have a site if we cannot express our selves, we all have different breeds, preferences, methods and we can and will learn off each other. But my in put is meant to expose idiots as explained above, cannot please every one!

Location, now Wales, was the North West

 

Good luck with Bin Laden, to save fu**ing about and risking British lives Nuke them! Or I heard he works terriers, if true, send him some of Eddies and Middletons terriers, he will soon lose the plot and either commit suicide or give him self up to be put out of misery!

 

Redmor, I am good, but there is always some one better! I strive to perfect and I am a great believer in another saying "you are never to old to learn" even me! The difference to me and some others, I know when my terrier is a failure or is not to an acceptable level, I will then take the appropriate action and start again, the terrier will never be shown, bred from or sold as a so called worker, what it is it is, no need to lie, I have had as many failures as the next person, however, the feed back I get from people around the country my pups have a better % chance of making workers than most and again it comes back to the in put of inferior blood and lack of quality work to test the terier.

 

The easist way to explain terrier work to the new comer or the novice is by relaing to football, you have premiership terriers and the rest of the divisions, the terriers in the rest of the divisions all play the same game and can shine now and then (cup games), however, they lack the consistency to be classed as a premiership player, they do have their uses, but are not of the quality.

 

Your premiership terrier, will be true, will try at all times, is not a defeatist, can be relied on, gives 100% and produces off spring fit enough for the premieership

 

Before any smart arses ask, the answer is NO, Iam not going in to football coaching!

 

Hope everyone, well almost ever one is happy today

 

Tally Ho

[Bosun11 537]

What I know of Chapman is limited to say the least. Yep, I read about the 'Bangor' dog in EDRD, strange tale to be honest and have no comments on that.

On Chapman, well I know of only one person who has/had a dog off him and yes, it done a bit I was told by my mate who went out with it but not to his standard, unfortunatley for him it lined his Park bred bitch whilst in transit. He kept a pup back off it, he was quite pleased with the sapling, unfortunatley it was lost after going to ground in a unknown (till then!) sand earth with its dam, whilst excercising, which collapsed.

 

About 20+ years ago, a bloke I knew, had a half Chapman, half Border type bitch, this bloke did a fair bit of digging, though I don't know how much (if any) he done with this bitch. Anyways, the boom in 'white lakelands' had started and knowing he'd do well with the litter he went back to Chapman for a line. The resulting 'smart' pups were bought back by Eddie and sold as 'his' russells. He even showed one!

 

On terriers, my thoughts are like this, good dogs should come from good lines BUT to take on a dog from any line make sure you KNOW that both parents work and work well.

Yes, I belive you can get a good 'un out of anything but what are the odds on replicating that and how long will your 'bubble' last???

In the terrier world, sound working parents AND history are pricless.

 

Cheers

[elisderyn 496]

I work with Ed's nephew but I have only met the fella once & that was to spend 3 days on his boat fishing the teste , A comical fella who is 110% into his fishing these days with his missus looking after the show terriers , We obviously talked about the terriers & after a few whiskeys even had a disagreement about them , My idea of a terrier was different to Ed's afterall He was a hunt terrierman & they want different qualities in some cases to what lads like me want.........As it happened I dug to a chapman bred russell a few times last year with a terrierman from down south & the dog was spot on , Not my type but it got the job done.................Ed has obviously dug alot more than the majority of "dogmen" & he knows his stuff but he didnt have much good to say about my "black" dogs & I suppose he did raise a few valid points in the end we agreed to disagree afterall he's a russell man & I keep patterdales so we obviously are looking from to different angles !!!!............From my own personal experience I couldnt fault the man as he showed me some great fishing & good hospitality , Him & his ideals in regards to terrierwork are from a different era & even if I didnt agree with some of his thoughts it was interesting to listen to some of his stories , He's done his fill of digging & if he wants to make a few quid of the back of it then thats his buisness , Not for me personally but who am I to judge...............Anyway ALOT of the time I blame the idiots paying silly money for pups they know nothing about just because its a "brand" as much as those selling.............

[CumbrianJack 2]

mr 1 do you have any pictures of your dogs at all that you could post up?

[m.r1 7]

mr 1 do you have any pictures of your dogs at all that you could post up?

 

 

What! and be slated by m.r1! Nah, thought about it but theres to many antis on here, dont want to give them any more ammunition!

[oyama 27]

First we must as someone quoted remember ,he was a hunt terrierman,so he had a professional job to do.With all the pressures that go with it.Secondly is it sporting to damn a man and his dogs when he can't defend himself.

[m.r1 7]

First we must as someone quoted remember ,he was a hunt terrierman,so he had a professional job to do.With all the pressures that go with it.Secondly is it sporting to damn a man and his dogs when he can't defend himself.

 

Eddie may not have access to the internet (doubt that with all the world wide business deals!) but he has enough diciples here on the site to defend him, not a case of being sporting, I am not wanting to harm him or any other person, what I do is discuss topics, see pics of nice working types ( not freshly bitten) and expose lies or phonies, create debate because with out debate we have no site or a very boreig site at that.

 

Everyone has a view, a type of prefered terrier, some may pass coment that may sound silly, lets correct these persons, educate them, this doesnt mean talk down, there is only 1 person who should be talked down and that is a anti

 

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