STRANGER 948 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Have got a cheap .410 that im looking at shortening the barrel to about 25 inch. Question is, can you just saw it off yourself or does a gunsmith have to do it? Do you have to notify the firearms officer you have shortened it? Gun cost 50 quid so not needing anything pretty. Cheers. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Have got a cheap .410 that im looking at shortening the barrel to about 25 inch. Question is, can you just saw it off yourself or does a gunsmith have to do it? Do you have to notify the firearms officer you have shortened it? Gun cost 50 quid so not needing anything pretty. Cheers. 410 are normally full choke, if you chop the end off it will have no choke Quote Link to post
STRANGER 948 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Have got a cheap .410 that im looking at shortening the barrel to about 25 inch. Question is, can you just saw it off yourself or does a gunsmith have to do it? Do you have to notify the firearms officer you have shortened it? Gun cost 50 quid so not needing anything pretty. Cheers. 410 are normally full choke, if you chop the end off it will have no choke Its for shooting stuff close range so it doesn't matter. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Have got a cheap .410 that im looking at shortening the barrel to about 25 inch. Question is, can you just saw it off yourself or does a gunsmith have to do it? Do you have to notify the firearms officer you have shortened it? Gun cost 50 quid so not needing anything pretty. Cheers. 410 are normally full choke, if you chop the end off it will have no choke Its for shooting stuff close range so it doesn't matter. saw away then just keep it within legal length Quote Link to post
STRANGER 948 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Have got a cheap .410 that im looking at shortening the barrel to about 25 inch. Question is, can you just saw it off yourself or does a gunsmith have to do it? Do you have to notify the firearms officer you have shortened it? Gun cost 50 quid so not needing anything pretty. Cheers. 410 are normally full choke, if you chop the end off it will have no choke Its for shooting stuff close range so it doesn't matter. saw away then just keep it within legal length What about the stock? Is it legal to saw the stock off, might be easier/less hassle than doing the barrel? Cheers Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,809 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) What about the stock? Is it legal to saw the stock off, might be easier/less hassle than doing the barrel? Cheers I believe the regulations for a shotgun are minimum barrel length of 24" and minimum overall length of 40". Edited September 5, 2013 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post
STRANGER 948 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 What about the stock? Is it legal to saw the stock off, might be easier/less hassle than doing the barrel? Cheers I believe the regulations for a shotgun are minimum barrel length of 24" and minimum overall length of 40". Cheers for that. Appreciated Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The source of the Law for your reference - page 8: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117797/HO-Firearms-Guidance.pdf Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,809 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The source of the Law for your reference - page 8: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117797/HO-Firearms-Guidance.pdf So the 40" overall length rule only applies to self loaders and pump actions? So if that's true, you could buy a single shot shotgun, cut the barrel down to 24" and cut the but stock off? Quote Link to post
STRANGER 948 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The source of the Law for your reference - page 8: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117797/HO-Firearms-Guidance.pdf So the 40" overall length rule only applies to self loaders and pump actions? So if that's true, you could buy a single shot shotgun, cut the barrel down to 24" and cut the but stock off? Thinks that's the story aye. If not you can bake me a cake with a file in it and bring it up north 2 Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The source of the Law for your reference - page 8: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117797/HO-Firearms-Guidance.pdf So the 40" overall length rule only applies to self loaders and pump actions? So if that's true, you could buy a single shot shotgun, cut the barrel down to 24" and cut the but stock off? As I read it, the 40inch rule on page 8 applies to classification ie whether its a shotgun or firearm, not prohibition. Guidance point 2.6 on page 9 covers single shot and muzzle loaded shotguns - anything under 24 inches is classified a firearm. I'd like to see you get an FAC for a sawn off shotgun though. I presume its possible but you'd have to have a very unique usage. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The source of the Law for your reference - page 8: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117797/HO-Firearms-Guidance.pdf So the 40" overall length rule only applies to self loaders and pump actions? So if that's true, you could buy a single shot shotgun, cut the barrel down to 24" and cut the but stock off? As I read it, the 40inch rule on page 8 applies to classification ie whether its a shotgun or firearm, not prohibition. Guidance point 2.6 on page 9 covers single shot and muzzle loaded shotguns - anything under 24 inches is classified a firearm. I'd like to see you get an FAC for a sawn off shotgun though. I presume its possible but you'd have to have a very unique usage. you can there 410 pistols for terrier work and humane dispatch Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) The source of the Law for your reference - page 8: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117797/HO-Firearms-Guidance.pdf So the 40" overall length rule only applies to self loaders and pump actions? So if that's true, you could buy a single shot shotgun, cut the barrel down to 24" and cut the but stock off? As I read it, the 40inch rule on page 8 applies to classification ie whether its a shotgun or firearm, not prohibition. Guidance point 2.6 on page 9 covers single shot and muzzle loaded shotguns - anything under 24 inches is classified a firearm. I'd like to see you get an FAC for a sawn off shotgun though. I presume its possible but you'd have to have a very unique usage. you can there 410 pistols for terrier work and humane dispatch Ahh. I thought it might be something like ratting in confined spaces such as lofts etc. Edited September 5, 2013 by Alsone Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 The source of the Law for your reference - page 8: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/117797/HO-Firearms-Guidance.pdf So the 40" overall length rule only applies to self loaders and pump actions? So if that's true, you could buy a single shot shotgun, cut the barrel down to 24" and cut the but stock off? As I read it, the 40inch rule on page 8 applies to classification ie whether its a shotgun or firearm, not prohibition. Guidance point 2.6 on page 9 covers single shot and muzzle loaded shotguns - anything under 24 inches is classified a firearm. I'd like to see you get an FAC for a sawn off shotgun though. I presume its possible but you'd have to have a very unique usage. you can there 410 pistols for terrier work and humane dispatch Ahh. I thought it might be something like ratting in confined spaces such as lofts etc. you can if your lucky get one for ratting around buildings but again depends on individual forces and are held as section 1 Quote Link to post
timc20xe 73 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I have a 410 with the stock cut off for terrier work , only pumps and semi autos have to be a min of 40" , I phoned and checkd with my firearms officer before I cut it Quote Link to post
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