bingo 1 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Just wondering if anyone can help me? I'm looking to purchase a new terrier locator, as I've had enough of the Deban terrier finder(with the disco lights and sounds!). The people I know in the terrier world all rave about bellman and flint, you could say its considered the rolls Royce of locators! But someone mentioned ortovox locators(D3 to be precise), I've tried to research this and all I can find info on is the reciever boxes. Do they produce collars? Or a transmitter that you attach to a collar? Or does anyone own one that they can tell how good they are? I would buy a bellman and flint, but they are mega bucks on my sallery, any thoughts appreciated guys? Quote Link to post
Wolfie 106 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 This is much appreciated guys, really is. Are the barryvox receivers silent/or can be. As I'm sure you will all understand that sometimes you need everything to be quite in some places? i put my thumb over the speaker when i use my barryvox Quote Link to post
VOON 1,317 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 mega bucks for a locator? or its weight in gold to replace your dog? save up and buy the best you can Which is the best on the market at the moment ?? Bellman and Flint not accurate?? Barryvox pulse no service or comeback if the device has problems with muck?? Two attenna's or Three??? Pieps DSP £315 Barryvox Pulse £315 Barryvox Element £261 BCA £261 Ortovox 3+ £233 Ortovox Zoom £199 Bellman + Flint £385 inc collar Lots of choice and very confusing, it is a lot of money so you want to get it right and purchase the best so pro's and con's with reasons, please Barryvox element its a no brainer. It has all the features of the pulse you would need for terrier work at a fraction of the price. In the past seasons I have used and owned new and old B&F, barryvox element and pulse. Hope this helps Ta, but you still need to buy a collar and its £130 for the B & F collar.......Which was the most accurate and the easiest to use?? Quote Link to post
bulljack 480 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 T bar and a good sounder. 2 Quote Link to post
STRANGER 948 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 mega bucks for a locator? or its weight in gold to replace your dog? save up and buy the best you can Which is the best on the market at the moment ?? Bellman and Flint not accurate?? Barryvox pulse no service or comeback if the device has problems with muck?? Two attenna's or Three??? Pieps DSP £315 Barryvox Pulse £315 Barryvox Element £261 BCA £261 Ortovox 3+ £233 Ortovox Zoom £199 Bellman + Flint £385 inc collar Lots of choice and very confusing, it is a lot of money so you want to get it right and purchase the best so pro's and con's with reasons, please Barryvox element its a no brainer. It has all the features of the pulse you would need for terrier work at a fraction of the price. In the past seasons I have used and owned new and old B&F, barryvox element and pulse. Hope this helps Ta, but you still need to buy a collar and its £130 for the B & F collar.......Which was the most accurate and the easiest to use?? To be honest, there wasn't much in them accuracy wise. Most of the time when I hear people say its not accurate, there not using it right. The new B&F (big red one) was my least favourite by far. There all straight forward once you get used to using them. Quote Link to post
VOON 1,317 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Sorry to wreck the head, but why didnt you like the new B & F?? Nearly everyone that got them said they were top kit........... Quote Link to post
THE GENERAL 1,982 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Sorry to wreck the head, but why didnt you like the new B & F?? Nearly everyone that got them said they were top kit...........Nearly everyone I know that got them, wanted to trade them for the older pieps box? 1 Quote Link to post
STRANGER 948 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Clumsy, took longer to settle, numbers were jumpier, and it is silent. Not for me. Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Considering we had fook all but are ears and common sence then built up experience we found are terriers and qaurry no beep fooking beep , the bnf is brilliant use it practise makes perfect lol 4 Quote Link to post
bull mcabe 595 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Have to say i cant really fault bellman and flint (pieps box). But before this i had the mark 3 deben with the pinpointer dial and to be honest i found this very accurate in deep earths. Couldnt fault it really but the bellman seems way to go now pricey enough but no where near the value i have on my terriers Quote Link to post
bitchie 292 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Where is the difference between Bellman & flint red box And Pieps dsp box? Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Where is the difference between Bellman & flint red box And Pieps dsp box? . About £150 i think lol 2 Quote Link to post
bitchie 292 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Haha! And by handling? Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Haha! And by handling? the pieps box was avalanche rescuse gear bit weak for the rough and tough of the terrier location flimsy screen switch etc batterys etc , new box is porpose built collars rechargerble Quote Link to post
pitdawg913 27 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) This is the set up I use, Ive had the Pieps/Ortovox longer but hands down prefer the B&F collar and Mammut handheld, both setups work spot on, the B&F is handy because its rechargeable and has a battery life light. Edited September 6, 2013 by pitdawg913 2 Quote Link to post
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