gnasher16 30,025 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Ffs some of you have no brains if , moyes dosnt work then fair enough but to say he didnt do anythink at everton ffs without moyes they was down season after season, and you think you know football geezzzzzzz plank. Lol Why would they go down when they have players valued at 25 mill +................They have always had good players in the side its not like Moyes made the best of a bad bunch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chelsea 125 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 lets be honest he is only three games in lol long way off yet and mourinho is not doing much better either...... Nice to see the special one has everyone worried ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 It must be odd for you Man Unt fans this season, now the old boys gone who was in fact the backbone of the team and had a proven track record, you all sort of knew you were gonna be up there season after season. But, no longer.......you have a manager with to be honest, no track record at all......say waht you like, but he didnt set the world on fire with Everton so you dont know how its gonna turn out...........haha.......welcome to the real world boys As fans, I will ask you, how confident are you this season?.........IMHO, the Liverpool game was a "must win" for Moyes and he failed........all factors considered as a manager, I dont think you could even entertain the concept of losing that game....what do you reckon? A one nil loss or any loss at Liverpool isn't that unusual Wilf, even when Fergie was at the helm a win or draw there was never a given.. Bit strong to say it was a 'must win' IMO, it was an early game against one of our bitterest rivals in which the only thing really at stake was bragging rights. Our other games were a 0-0 draw againt Chelsea who are one of the favourites for the title and a good 4-1 win away at Swansea.. Fergie himself chose Moyes as a successor, if he fails it lies fairly on his shoulders and it will be a blip on his record. Do you not think a man with such knowledge, experience and the know how to keep a team at the very level would have recommended a man if he didn't think he'd be able to handle it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,565 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I think Moyes did well to stabilise Everton after a dodgy few years , but then he didn,t kick on ,respectable results seemed to be enough for him ,and the last 3/4 years seemed like he was just keeping a steady ship until the United job ( that he was promised 3 years ago ) came up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Bit strong to say it was a 'must win' IMO, it was an early game against one of our bitterest rivals in which the only thing really at stake was bragging rights. If Utd end up runners up 2 points away from top spot do you think fans will think it was only points for bragging rights ?........Every game is a " must win " game when its against clubs in and around you whatever end of the table your at and whatever stage of the season it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I think Moyes did well to stabilise Everton after a dodgy few years , but then he didn,t kick on ,respectable results seemed to be enough for him ,and the last 3/4 years seemed like he was just keeping a steady ship until the United job ( that he was promised 3 years ago ) came up.. 5 years ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,606 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 It must be odd for you Man Unt fans this season, now the old boys gone who was in fact the backbone of the team and had a proven track record, you all sort of knew you were gonna be up there season after season. But, no longer.......you have a manager with to be honest, no track record at all......say waht you like, but he didnt set the world on fire with Everton so you dont know how its gonna turn out...........haha.......welcome to the real world boys As fans, I will ask you, how confident are you this season?.........IMHO, the Liverpool game was a "must win" for Moyes and he failed........all factors considered as a manager, I dont think you could even entertain the concept of losing that game....what do you reckon? A one nil loss or any loss at Liverpool isn't that unusual Wilf, even when Fergie was at the helm a win or draw there was never a given.. Bit strong to say it was a 'must win' IMO, it was an early game against one of our bitterest rivals in which the only thing really at stake was bragging rights. Our other games were a 0-0 draw againt Chelsea who are one of the favourites for the title and a good 4-1 win away at Swansea.. Fergie himself chose Moyes as a successor, if he fails it lies fairly on his shoulders and it will be a blip on his record. Do you not think a man with such knowledge, experience and the know how to keep a team at the very level would have recommended a man if he didn't think he'd be able to handle it? Fair one mate but I am a big believer in the phsycological side of sport and I think as ex manager of Everton and the new Manager of Unt a win at Liverpool would have put up a flag for all to see. It would also have sent a " I mean business" message to all your rivals..........the big man had nothing to prove so it didn't matter for him. The big man left Moyes a club in good order with outstanding players.......what Moyes does with it now has nothing to do with Fergie IMHO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 No gnasher fergey is in the back ground believe me the yanks have not let him walk that easy. Dithering Dave Will flounder. Its not sour grapes ive had to suffer his decision making for 10 seasons. He is tactically inept A dinosaur in his methords And a control freak. Witch will not wash at carrington. I doubt he will last two seasons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Bit strong to say it was a 'must win' IMO, it was an early game against one of our bitterest rivals in which the only thing really at stake was bragging rights. If Utd end up runners up 2 points away from top spot do you think fans will think it was only points for bragging rights ?........Every game is a " must win " game when its against clubs in and around you whatever end of the table your at and whatever stage of the season it is. If they're they only team we drop points to then I'd agree with you mate! You've been following football a lot longer than me mate, you must realise you ain't going to win every game? Even more so in a game between united and Liverpool away at Anfield.. No matter what Liverpool are playing like, no matter what problems they have got on the pitch or off it, they WILL raise their game and give United one of the toughest games of the season there. Even more so when they're celebrating an occasion like the were last Saturday with Shankly's 100th birthday.. I think it's a little disrespectful to Liverpool to say United should be going there and turning them over given the occasion and history of the fixture. I never expect us to come away with anything from Anfield such is the nature of the rivalry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 No gnasher fergey is in the back ground believe me the yanks have not let him walk that easy. Dithering Dave Will flounder. Its not sour grapes ive had to suffer his decision making for 10 seasons. He is tactically inept A dinosaur in his methords And a control freak. Witch will not wash at carrington. I doubt he will last two seasons Not me boss.....................interesting points anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,606 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 So, going back to my original question........are all you Unt fans as confident this season as in previous season or no different? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Malt you believe me moyes was devistated getting beat at anfield he has bottled it season after season there he thought he was going there to win. He will have kicked the dog all over the house that night lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 If they're they only team we drop points to then I'd agree with you mate! You've been following football a lot longer than me mate, you must realise you ain't going to win every game? Even more so in a game between united and Liverpool away at Anfield.. No matter what Liverpool are playing like, no matter what problems they have got on the pitch or off it, they WILL raise their game and give United one of the toughest games of the season there. Even more so when they're celebrating an occasion like the were last Saturday with Shankly's 100th birthday.. I think it's a little disrespectful to Liverpool to say United should be going there and turning them over given the occasion and history of the fixture. I never expect us to come away with anything from Anfield such is the nature of the rivalry. Your a football fan mate no different to me......you know as well as i do if there was 1 game throughout the season Moyes would of wanted to win more than any other it was that one......against your biggest rivals,at a vital changeover time,right at the start of the season.....Wilf talks about pshycology in sport.......look what a good win would of done for team and fan morale...................................yet look what its done in reality........................Maybe it wasnt a must win game for Utd but i think it was for Moyes..................and like i say 3 points dropped to teams around you is a bigger loss than 3 points lost to a side at the other end of the table. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 So, going back to my original question........are all you Unt fans as confident this season as in previous season or no different?I'm never confident mate! All I like to see is us up there challenging, if not leading then at least pushing the team or teams in front of us all the way to the wire.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 If they're they only team we drop points to then I'd agree with you mate! You've been following football a lot longer than me mate, you must realise you ain't going to win every game? Even more so in a game between united and Liverpool away at Anfield.. No matter what Liverpool are playing like, no matter what problems they have got on the pitch or off it, they WILL raise their game and give United one of the toughest games of the season there. Even more so when they're celebrating an occasion like the were last Saturday with Shankly's 100th birthday.. I think it's a little disrespectful to Liverpool to say United should be going there and turning them over given the occasion and history of the fixture. I never expect us to come away with anything from Anfield such is the nature of the rivalry. Your a football fan mate no different to me......you know as well as i do if there was 1 game throughout the season Moyes would of wanted to win more than any other it was that one......against your biggest rivals,at a vital changeover time,right at the start of the season.....Wilf talks about pshycology in sport.......look what a good win would of done for team and fan morale...................................yet look what its done in reality........................Maybe it wasnt a must win game for Utd but i think it was for Moyes..................and like i say 3 points dropped to teams around you is a bigger loss than 3 points lost to a side at the other end of the table.Fair point.. It would have set down a marker and provided an early boost, and perhaps more importantly made him instantly popular with the fans and maybe this in turn would have given him a bit of breathing space further down the line when we inevitably hit a run of poor form as most teams do.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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