bunnys 1,228 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 kht eeping small birds canaries etc ONE AT SOME period engage in the onslaught of mite red northern etc . on the use of DE one can only give praise I took the step urther and sprayed all the breeding boxes wth it IN A GOOD THICK SOLUTION when dry a decent mink colour , no mite all season . I WENT A STEP FURTHER and tested by not painting one nest pan , there was signs of the beginning of mite here ,picked upon quickly dealt with .WE have had boiling hot weather ths time and mite thrive in these conditions .I would say ivomectin plus the DE ya wont go far wrong , PS for the cleaning will also desroy red mite and the oycstst that grow in the birds environment that can be the cause coccidosis ,hence going light. s.atb bunnny Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 i have reservations i have to admit, but claims like "i have used it all season and never seen a flea" .........well i put a blob of daddy`s brown sauce behind the dogs ear every thursday at 14:23 precisely and i am yet to see a flea, mind i also benzol every month, so the brown sauce seems to be working Daddy's is quite expensive Paul. Why don't you try morrisons own brand stuff? Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 any veterinary or medical evidence that proves theses claims Diatomaceous earth is a really good as a mechanical control for crawling insects. It's basically fossilized algae. It acts by physically removing the chitin, from insect exoskeleton. The waxy coating on the shell. This causes them to dehydrate, to death. I've used it with quite a lot in the last few years. It works well where there is a sensitivity to traditional insecticide but it's a residual, plain and simple. It will stop insects where they crawl around but it's just one tool in a pest control environment, and should be used in conjunction with traditional treatments. The best flea control, on animals, I've used is fipronil. Quote Link to post
Bootsha 1,306 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I use it in the dog sleeping boxes, and extensively in the chicken houses. I dont know about scientificaly proven tests etc, but i shall continue to use it as i think its very good stuff. No fleas on dogs this year again and no mites etc on poultry, or that i can see anyway. Regards Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 any veterinary or medical evidence that proves theses claims Diatomaceous earth is a really good as a mechanical control for crawling insects. It's basically fossilized algae. It acts by physically removing the chitin, from insect exoskeleton. The waxy coating on the shell. This causes them to dehydrate, to death. I've used it with quite a lot in the last few years. It works well where there is a sensitivity to traditional insecticide but it's a residual, plain and simple. It will stop insects where they crawl around but it's just one tool in a pest control environment, and should be used in conjunction with traditional treatments. The best flea control, on animals, I've used is fipronil. i know what it is merely questioning some of the claims made i tried it years ago when i was looking at alternatives for duramitex Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 any veterinary or medical evidence that proves theses claims Diatomaceous earth is a really good as a mechanical control for crawling insects. It's basically fossilized algae. It acts by physically removing the chitin, from insect exoskeleton. The waxy coating on the shell. This causes them to dehydrate, to death. I've used it with quite a lot in the last few years. It works well where there is a sensitivity to traditional insecticide but it's a residual, plain and simple. It will stop insects where they crawl around but it's just one tool in a pest control environment, and should be used in conjunction with traditional treatments. The best flea control, on animals, I've used is fipronil. i am fully aware of what and how it allegedly works, i tried it a long time ago after the withdrawal of proper duramitex, had far more success with ficam w. on red mites and didn't notice anything different with the dogs before i used it, during or after i stopped using it. but it would seem other people may have Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) i am fully aware of what and how it allegedly works, i tried it a long time ago after the withdrawal of proper duramitex, had far more success with ficam w. on red mites and didn't notice anything different with the dogs before i used it, during or after i stopped using it. but it would seem other people may have Gotcha, I'm hungover and you were being way to cryptic! DE is a good product, no allegedly about it. The mechanical control aspect ensures resistance is kept to a minimum, at least for the time being. For fleas treatments, as the thread suggests, there are better ways as you know. DE acts as a decent, barrier, but I've never used it as part of flea treatment, and I don't see how it could be a valid treatment for a parasitic insect without first treating the animal, with something like fipronil. For other insects it's an effective, and cheap, alternative to contact dusts/powders. As with all of the pest related problems, no two jobs are the same, and most have more depth than a 'one size fits all' wonder product. Edited August 25, 2013 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 i am fully aware of what and how it allegedly works, i tried it a long time ago after the withdrawal of proper duramitex, had far more success with ficam w. on red mites and didn't notice anything different with the dogs before i used it, during or after i stopped using it. but it would seem other people may have Gotcha, I'm hungover and you were being way to cryptic! DE is a good product, no allegedly about it. The mechanical control aspect ensures resistance is kept to a minimum, at least for the time being. For fleas treatments, as the thread suggests, there are better ways as you know. DE acts as a decent, barrier, but I've never used it as part of flea treatment, and I don't see how it could be a valid treatment for a parasitic insect without first treating the animal. For other insects it's an effective, and cheap, alternative to contact dusts/powders. As with all of the pest related problems, no two jobs are the same, and most have more depth than a 'one size fits all' wonder product. i am always cryptic on sundays Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 i am always cryptic on sundays That's good to know, as I'm always hungover! Quote Link to post
kanigra 110 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Used it for red mite in my chooks, it seemed to help keep on top of it but I had to dust each bird and the house several times! But to KILL internal or external parasites (worms,fleas and ticks)you really need a proper wormer or flea treatment, although you can give certain things to help prevent them in the first place. I agree.Used it myself it keeps on top of them but used advocate in the end to total erase them! Quote Link to post
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