Moorman 1 1,325 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood most wheatens can be traced bk to working stock if you look the right places you get a good un Do you honestly believe the first part of your statement about most wheatens being traced to "working stock?" Has there ever been any working Wheatons on your side of the Atlantic Dan? I think Dan is confusing them with the KC stuff.A totally different animal. 2 Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Define most and how far back do we have to trace cuz I'm only 37 years old and quite sure anything over 30 years ago prolly aint worth tracing back to. is that right Not if you cant find out for sure exactly what they were and not unless you know for a fact that the same group of men are still breeding the original stock. who said they werent If that is the case then I am impressed and would love to go out hunting with some dogs like that. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood most wheatens can be traced bk to working stock if you look the right places you get a good un Do you honestly believe the first part of your statement about most wheatens being traced to "working stock?" Has there ever been any working Wheatons on your side of the Atlantic Dan? I think Dan is confusing them with the KC stuff.A totally different animal. Not that I am aware of spindolero.....and no I'm not confusing them at all cuz I know nothing about either side its just I have truly never seen nor heard of a good wheaten anywhere and you would think that I would have by now. Its not like I'm new to this game and surely they cannot be the super secretive things that folks are implying. I mean if I've pretty much seen most good "breeds/types" why is it that I have never even heard of a good wheaten? I am not knockin these dogs at all if they are out there I just never seen one. Quote Link to post
chrisbullx 2,541 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Probably dan because ones you have seen have bred from 1/2hearted dogs with shit blood that wouldn't do good days or nights work or probably rough coated lurchers with no wheaton in them but I'll will tell you this get 1 bred the right way from tried & tested dogs you wont go far wrong atb cbx 3 Quote Link to post
Moorman 1 1,325 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood most wheatens can be traced bk to working stock if you look the right places you get a good un Do you honestly believe the first part of your statement about most wheatens being traced to "working stock?" Has there ever been any working Wheatons on your side of the Atlantic Dan? I think Dan is confusing them with the KC stuff.A totally different animal. Not that I am aware of spindolero.....and no I'm not confusing them at all cuz I know nothing about either side its just I have truly never seen nor heard of a good wheaten anywhere and you would think that I would have by now. Its not like I'm new to this game and surely they cannot be the super secretive things that folks are implying. I mean if I've pretty much seen most good "breeds/types" why is it that I have never even heard of a good wheaten? I am not knockin these dogs at all if they are out there I just never seen one. If you were from Ireland I expect that you would have either seen or known of them. Edited August 31, 2013 by Moorman 1 2 Quote Link to post
Allan.A 27 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 What are wheaten lurchers like as in regards trainablity, obedience? Are they head strong or....? What is their wind like? What us thier wind like at say 3/4 grey 1/4 wheaten? Genuine questions by the way, I genuinly know very little about this cross. Quote Link to post
derekbrown 176 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 What are wheaten lurchers like as in regards trainablity, obedience? Are they head strong or....? What is their wind like? What us thier wind like at say 3/4 grey 1/4 wheaten? Genui ne questions by the way, I genuinly know very little about this cross. Well. Al the ones ye English have been given are prob trainable obedient and totally adorable.the proper working wheaten line would never be passed on to people who spend their days on the hunting life and rightly so. 4 Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) What are wheaten lurchers like as in regards trainablity, obedience? Are they head strong or....? What is their wind like? What us thier wind like at say 3/4 grey 1/4 wheaten? Genui ne questions by the way, I genuinly know very little about this cross. Well. Al the ones ye English have been given are prob trainable obedient and totally adorable.the proper working wheaten line would never be passed on to people who spend their days on the hunting life and rightly so ive one here that is untrainable disobedient and ugly as sin. does that mean i have a good one.. . i take it you dont have one derek Edited September 1, 2013 by Cleanspade Quote Link to post
hard core hunting 171 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 What are wheaten lurchers like as in regards trainablity, obedience? Are they head strong or....? What is their wind like? What us thier wind like at say 3/4 grey 1/4 wheaten? Genui ne questions by the way, I genuinly know very little about this cross. Well. Al the ones ye English have been given are prob trainable obedient and totally adorable.the proper working wheaten line would never be passed on to people who spend their days on the hunting life and rightly so. your not rouge there mate Quote Link to post
derekbrown 176 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) What are wheaten lurchers like as in regards trainablity, obedience? Are they head strong or....? What is their wind like? What us thier wind like at say 3/4 grey 1/4 wheaten? Genui ne questions by the way, I genuinly know very little about this cross. Well. Al the ones ye English have been given are prob trainable obedient and totally adorable.the proper working wheaten line would never be passed on to people who spend their days on the hunting life and rightly so ive one here that is untrainable disobedient and ugly as sin. does that mean i have a good one.. . i take it you dont Edited September 2, 2013 by derekbrown Quote Link to post
hard core hunting 171 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) the worker Edited September 9, 2013 by hard core hunting 6 Quote Link to post
hard core hunting 171 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 and believe me she was Quote Link to post
artful212 394 Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 the worker Dogs_066-1.jpg very nice mate Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,110 Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 whats with all the edited posts, people doubting themselves?? Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 What are wheaten lurchers like as in regards trainablity, obedience? Are they head strong or....? What is their wind like? What us thier wind like at say 3/4 grey 1/4 wheaten? Genui ne questions by the way, I genuinly know very little about this cross. Well. Al the ones ye English have been given are prob trainable obedient and totally adorable.the proper working wheaten line would never be passed on to people who spend their days on the hunting life and rightly so. So how would you know this then? Quote Link to post
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