Cleanspade 3,322 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood What an extremely blinkered view,and from someone that has never owned one! The way that you say that your idea will probably differ considerably from his is a joke,you seem to put yourself on some kind of pedestal. It seems quite the norm on this site for someone to be preaching about something that they have no experience of. I say it how I see it ....ive never owned a plummer but I can tell or (preach as you put it ) there wank ... oh no you dont say it as you see it. thats two types you know little or nothing about. your stuff goin by your posts is the best of gear. ( i havnt seen em work so i'll go by your method. and just take it as yours are shite bummed up by a guy with rose tinted specs on . TO SAY IT AS YOU SEE IT. YOU NEED TO SEE IT FIRST. pinch of salt with your posts i reckon. Edited August 27, 2013 by Cleanspade 3 Quote Link to post
MIK 4,756 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood What an extremely blinkered view,and from someone that has never owned one! The way that you say that your idea will probably differ considerably from his is a joke,you seem to put yourself on some kind of pedestal. It seems quite the norm on this site for someone to be preaching about something that they have no experience of. I say it how I see it ....ive never owned a plummer but I can tell or (preach as you put it ) there wank ... oh no you dont say it as you see it. thats two types you know little or nothing about. your stuff goin by your posts is the best of gear. ( i havnt seen em work so i'll go by your method. and just take it as yours are shite bummed up by a guy with rose tinted specs on . TO SAY IT AS YOU SEE IT. YOU NEED TO SEE IT FIRST. pinch of salt with your posts i reckon. so what you are saying is im lying and my dogs are shite ? Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood What an extremely blinkered view,and from someone that has never owned one! The way that you say that your idea will probably differ considerably from his is a joke,you seem to put yourself on some kind of pedestal. It seems quite the norm on this site for someone to be preaching about something that they have no experience of. I say it how I see it ....ive never owned a plummer but I can tell or (preach as you put it ) there wank ... oh no you dont say it as you see it. thats two types you know little or nothing about. your stuff goin by your posts is the best of gear. ( i havnt seen em work so i'll go by your method. and just take it as yours are shite bummed up by a guy with rose tinted specs on . TO SAY IT AS YOU SEE IT. YOU NEED TO SEE IT FIRST. pinch of salt with your posts i reckon. so what you are saying is im lying and my dogs are shite ? what i am saying is you are making sweeping statements about dogs you know little or nothing about.. so i'm trying to make the same point. in reverse so to speak. as for your dogs i would'nt know or care if they are good bad or indifferent. . i would not dream of calling you or anyone a liar. . . that would be bad form.. my wheaten cross. my lurcher and my plummer. you say they are wank. does that mean your calling me a liar. bearing in mind i have first hand experience of these individual dogs.? 11 Quote Link to post
jcm 2,327 Posted August 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Boys if your gunna argue take it to pm and get off my topic, no-one wants to hear you to at each other 1 Quote Link to post
rob190364 2,594 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Hard core hunting...there are some crackers amongst your lot pal! 1 Quote Link to post
bullx100% 681 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 sum more pics that dog is awsome mate nice stamp of dog that . Quote Link to post
artful212 394 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood most wheatens can be traced bk to working stock if you look the right places you get a good un 1 Quote Link to post
artful212 394 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 sum more pics that dogs some nut on him mate .. where u been lol 1 Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood most wheatens can be traced bk to working stock if you look the right places you get a good un Do you honestly believe the first part of your statement about most wheatens being traced to "working stock?" Quote Link to post
artful212 394 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Ive never had a wheaton x Grant but maybe one day you say you have never seen a bad wheaton cross ...what did the wheaton blood add to the mix? Add to the mix well they are gamer and there willingness to work .but I have seen some bad ones too but you get that in every cross I your idea and my idea of gameness will probably differ considerably ...gameness was the main trait in useing wheaton blood with adding a better coat than from bull blood but my point is very very few of wheaton blood are from tested wheaton blood most wheatens can be traced bk to working stock if you look the right places you get a good un Do you honestly believe the first part of your statement about most wheatens being traced to "working stock?" i fancy my chances Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Define most and how far back do we have to trace cuz I'm only 37 years old and quite sure anything over 30 years ago prolly aint worth tracing back to. Quote Link to post
artful212 394 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Define most and how far back do we have to trace cuz I'm only 37 years old and quite sure anything over 30 years ago prolly aint worth tracing back to. is that right Quote Link to post
Bazil brush 474 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I agree with other comments above mate The only thing I have found with this breed is they can be a bit of a twat with other dogs need to kennel and feed alone. Once they have been switch on to the fox game, they always seem to go worse many a time they have drew the terrier before the quarry when I've been digging with them I would go for a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 wheaton if I was to go down that route again mate or even a 5/8th bred have a bit more speed for the lamping job Not saying all the same mate, that's just my opinion on the breed. Good luck hope you find what your looking for all the best JDD Spot on, I have witnessed the same kind of stuff with a good line, really unprodictable and are deadly when fired up, I once walked past a young bitch with a old russel in my arms she was a line bred wheaten x 3rd gen grabbed her out my arms shaking her like mad, only did 2 seasons along side them and it was anoth to put me of for life ever owning one. I can say quite a few other incidents but will leave it as i'll be here all night. Edited August 30, 2013 by Bazil brush Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Define most and how far back do we have to trace cuz I'm only 37 years old and quite sure anything over 30 years ago prolly aint worth tracing back to. is that right Not if you cant find out for sure exactly what they were and not unless you know for a fact that the same group of men are still breeding the original stock. 1 Quote Link to post
artful212 394 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Define most and how far back do we have to trace cuz I'm only 37 years old and quite sure anything over 30 years ago prolly aint worth tracing back to. is that right Not if you cant find out for sure exactly what they were and not unless you know for a fact that the same group of men are still breeding the original stock. out of sight out of mind Quote Link to post
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