Thoughts On 8 Shot 12G Escort

[charlie caller 3,654]

Probably they get so despondent with their hatstands that they cant be bothered looking after them, after all you cant polish a turd can you?

[rimmer 33]

i have owned hatsan, benelli and beretta sa`s the beretta was the best, the benelli was truely awful cheap construction and materials and stopped every other round or it seemed that way! the Hatsan is cheap, not made from the best materials but i works every time now i did have a problem with it cycling 65mm carts so i just brought 67mm and now all is fine. i matters not if i drop it or mark it and i dont even clean it very much but it still works ok.

[charlie caller 3,654]

i have owned hatsan, benelli and beretta sa`s the beretta was the best, the benelli was truely awful cheap construction and materials and stopped every other round or it seemed that way! the Hatsan is cheap, not made from the best materials but i works every time now i did have a problem with it cycling 65mm carts so i just brought 67mm and now all is fine. i matters not if i drop it or mark it and i dont even clean it very much but it still works ok.

It obviously was not the same kind of Benneli as mine, or the ones the American military and police use mate, perhaps it was a sneid copy, do you really think the armed forces and s.w.a.t would endorse sub standard goods, don't make me laugh Rimmer old chap.

[Ratsmasher 36]

Haha ill be honest the comment about not looking after your guns was a bit of stirring but I am a hatsan owner and mine works grand except when i haven't cleaned it after a couple hundred cartridges and then it just refuses to work but I genuinely would say that if you look after an escort it will go bang and cycle most times. I shoot a couple of rounds at a 40 bird clay shoot near me and most days it has one or two miscycles but I can deal with that and I think most people can. As for the ugly comment at the end of the day IMO semi autos aren't nice looking guns just workhorses but maybe not everyone has the same views

[The Seeker 3,048]

Haha ill be honest the comment about not looking after your guns was a bit of stirring but I am a hatsan owner and mine works grand except when i haven't cleaned it after a couple hundred cartridges and then it just refuses to work but I genuinely would say that if you look after an escort it will go bang and cycle most times. I shoot a couple of rounds at a 40 bird clay shoot near me and most days it has one or two miscycles but I can deal with that and I think most people can. As for the ugly comment at the end of the day IMO semi autos aren't nice looking guns just workhorses but maybe not everyone has the same views

But that's the point my Benlli has NEVER had a problem recycling let alone a couple of times on a 40 bird clay shoot. That to me is unacceptable and why they are cheap shite.

 

If you can live with it then all well and good but I wouldn't.

[sprocker dog 7]

Winchester sx 3 for me, I tried a escort and it was unreliable. we shoot rabbits whilst driving on a quad,one drives one shoots and multi shot is great for that and also when shooting them when combining. my sx3 has never failed yet so if you can find one for the right price it would be money well spent!

[alan81 110]

if I had a gun that failed to cycle once or twice in every 40 shots it would drive me mad, not only the gun not working but that someone took 450 euro of me for it that's why like sprocker dog im going with the Winchester SX3.

[deerhunter25 18]

It does drive me mad. Ratsmasher does yours cycle 3 inch magnums? Neither my gun or my mates does. Very disappointing buy I must say. 3 year warranty is going to be in use within its first 6 months. Should have gone for the sx3

[Ratsmasher 36]

Yeah mine cycles the 3" magnums. The only thing it doesn't like us 2 1/2" cartridges

[charlie caller 3,654]

Sounds like a lucky bag then, some cycle one type others wont,and as for not working properly a couple of times on a 40 bird shoot I would be pissed off if mine did that once or twice every 400 never mind 40, if after reading all this any potential Hatstand owners still go ahead and buy one, well you must be mad, £450 on a heap of junk DONT DO IT, buy a good used gun of a reputable make.

[Ratsmasher 36]

See I don't see why that is so much of a problem. Ok it's annoying in the pigeon hide but on a clay shoot its not much different to getting a no bird. Fair enough if your a serious competition shooter but the escort isn't really for that type of person. It is a budget semi auto that you can drop in the mud and knock about a bit and it doesn't matter. And also I didn't make it clear I have a couple of rounds so it jams once or twice in shots which I can live with to save an extra 600 quid for a Benelli or beretta

[Deker 3,478]

See I don't see why that is so much of a problem. Ok it's annoying in the pigeon hide but on a clay shoot its not much different to getting a no bird. Fair enough if your a serious competition shooter but the escort isn't really for that type of person. It is a budget semi auto that you can drop in the mud and knock about a bit and it doesn't matter. And also I didn't make it clear I have a couple of rounds so it jams once or twice in shots which I can live with to save an extra 600 quid for a Benelli or beretta

 

If that works for you then fine. All you are doing is confirming the Hatsan is not good!

 

I can't remember the last time my 391 jammed anywhere, with any cart, of any size, even 21g on the Skeet!

[charlie caller 3,654]

Well to me that is like saying you are not too bothered if your car breaks down a couple of times on a drive to the coast I just could not put up with not knowing if my gun would go off or not, lets say a new Hatstand is £450, and a good used Benelli £700, that is £250 quid difference, now lets say you have the gun for ten years, one will be uber reliable, the other will be a piece of crap that will not work consistently, what is £25 quid a year for the difference of having a reliable gun of quality,as apposed to a tinny substandard, piece of crap that as soon as you walk out of the shop is worth less than half what you paid for it, becouse everyone knows they are crap, that is why guntrader ect is flooded with used Hatstands that people are desparate to palm off on somebody else

[rimmer 33]

 

i have owned hatsan, benelli and beretta sa`s the beretta was the best, the benelli was truely awful cheap construction and materials and stopped every other round or it seemed that way! the Hatsan is cheap, not made from the best materials but i works every time now i did have a problem with it cycling 65mm carts so i just brought 67mm and now all is fine. i matters not if i drop it or mark it and i dont even clean it very much but it still works ok.

It obviously was not the same kind of Benneli as mine, or the ones the American military and police use mate, perhaps it was a sneid copy, do you really think the armed forces and s.w.a.t would endorse sub standard goods, don't make me laugh Rimmer old chap.

 

I have to say iam not very fussed about who uses what, there are good and bad examples of everything, i conceed that i may have had a bad example of the beni but i have a good example of and escort so thats me happy!!!. i brought cheap because of the use i had for it and i know how hard i am on shotguns, they are a crude tool and i traet them as such. i also have a silver pidgeon which was a tad more expensive but i dont shoot any better with it!!