neems 2,406 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I am 21 an if I got called up for it ad go tomorrow wud be a great opportunity, however the jails aren't big enough for those who'd jump ship and no way would the Moslems do it not a chance in the world this would problem end up in civil war if forced on themich kids saying they were If like i say it was across the board compulsory. No ducking it especialy rich kids saying they were at uni or in a job Ie' every Tom, Dick,Harry and Muhammed had to do it or be Flogged every month for a year. No jailtime for deserters abstainers ect just a Monthly Fine and a Flogging Then it wouldnt impact of jail numbers. But like i say it would have to also apply to rich kids, Mp's kids ect How does it benefit our people to train/help improve blacks and pakis? I'd happily exempt them,would also teach British lads to stick to their own. 12 weeks straight out of school would be ok and not delay anyone's further education etc So no excuse for any British people except for health reasons. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cleanspade 3,324 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I THINK IT WOULD BE A BACKWARD STEP. this country wouldnt benefit from forcing kids to join up against there will. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I THINK IT WOULD BE A BACKWARD STEP. this country wouldnt benefit from forcing kids to join up against there will. Why? I personally think it would serve us well if anyone who shirked it was refused any benefits at any stage of their life and banned from any further education or position of power. Moral cowardice/weakness is rotting our society. Very few young people understand the concept of responsibility,so will never expect it from others (like our leaders) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cleanspade 3,324 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 becouse cowardly people. are born that way. no amount of training will make a coward into a brave man brave men are born brave. i also believe the idea is unworkable in todays society. an incentive based volenteer system would be prefarable. with better benefits for volenteers or lower benefits for those who dont fancy it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I dont agree with your first point,but you may be right about it being unworkable,but only if we've got to the point were no one cares about the future of our country. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I am 21 an if I got called up for it ad go tomorrow wud be a great opportunity, however the jails aren't big enough for those who'd jump ship and no way would the Moslems do it not a chance in the world this would problem end up in civil war if forced on themich kids saying they were If like i say it was across the board compulsory. No ducking it especialy rich kids saying they were at uni or in a job Ie' every Tom, Dick,Harry and Muhammed had to do it or be Flogged every month for a year. No jailtime for deserters abstainers ect just a Monthly Fine and a Flogging Then it wouldnt impact of jail numbers. But like i say it would have to also apply to rich kids, Mp's kids ect How does it benefit our people to train/help improve blacks and pakis? I'd happily exempt them,would also teach British lads to stick to their own. 12 weeks straight out of school would be ok and not delay anyone's further education etc So no excuse for any British people except for health reasons. I dont agree with you , there are Black lads and lasses in this Country bred fro Caribbien immigrants from the 40's 50's ect that Would lay down their lives for Britain as fast as any White born Native. Its some of the immigrants of the last 10-15 years that have no loyalty. These are the danger and they do seem to follow a certain religion unfortunatley. Im definatley a Nationalist but also im definatley No racist. Lol I don't think you understand the meaning of that word. Maybe a civic nationalist or Marxist,that's entirely different. There are English people prepared to die in foreign countries for the supposed freedom of those people,they're still English. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Who is going to pay for it, and how much will it cost the average tax payer? I'm for it, on principle, but this is a massive project that has no current infrastructure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 You cannot be a nationalist and non racist it's an oxymoron. Racist is a made up Trotskyist word used to shut nationalists up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 They could just make cadets and other similar institutuions compulsory for starters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) You cannot be a nationalist and non racist it's an oxymoron. Racist is a made up Trotskyist word used to shut nationalists up. It's not. Nationalism is loyalty to a nation. Racism implies the superiority of a particular race, over others. An oxymoron would be like saying military intelligence, or truthful politics. Edited August 17, 2013 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Well 12-14 weeks isn't going to bankrupt the country. It could be done cheaply,just train them in the very basics. No trades in anything just basic soldiering,they already do it its called phase 1. A regular from there would go on to learn their trade. It would save on benefits and NHS costs in the long term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 You cannot be a nationalist and non racist it's an oxymoron. Racist is a made up Trotskyist word used to shut nationalists up. It's not. Nationalism is loyalty to a nation. Racism implies the superiority of a particular race, over others. An oxymoron would be like saying military intelligence, or truthful politics. Nation means people,'the nation of Islam' isn't a place. These days liberals have bastardised the word,still a nationalist refers to the true meaning of the word. The nation of England refers to the people of England. If you're not 'racist' you could describe yourself as Marxist,communist or a progressive liberal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Well 12-14 weeks isn't going to bankrupt the country. It could be done cheaply,just train them in the very basics. No trades in anything just basic soldiering,they already do it its called phase 1. A regular from there would go on to learn their trade. It would save on benefits and NHS costs in the long term. It shouldn't bankrupt, the country, but remember who's devising this scheme. Especially when the fiscal situation, in the UK isn't exactly tip top to begin with. It can be done cheaply but you're talking about a self-serving government entity. Millions over budget is the norm, not the exception. It should save on benefits but you're taking taxpayers money and redistributing it. It's not like any of the departments are going to suddenly cut their funding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,511 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I work in a uni and the foreign wardens where crapping going home after getting there degree because they have compulsory national service and if theres bother there sent no namby pamby pissing about like in this country Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Nation means people,'the nation of Islam' isn't a place. These days liberals have bastardised the word,still a nationalist refers to the true meaning of the word. The nation of England refers to the people of England. If you're not 'racist' you could describe yourself as Marxist,communist or a progressive liberal. A nation is an area with defined territorial boundaries. The Nation Of Islam is a religious movement from the US... For the record, I'm neither racist, Marxist, Communist, or a progressive liberal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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