Opinions On The Hammerli Black Force 800

[K.A.G 0]

Hi everyone I'm just getting into air rifles and wondering if the hammerli black force 800 would be a good beginners gun

 

 

[slave 33]

The black force 800 is made by Smk and is the same as the SMK SYNSG i have no experience of this model. Some Chinese guns can be tuned and shoot reasonably after but with a price tag of between £150-£180 if it was my money i would look for a second hand reputable branded European rifle

[gosling1960 191]

Would have thought something like this would make a better first rifle?

 

http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/164122-WEIHRAUCH-HW80-22

 

 

Plenty about like this if you look should be able to find something within reasonable distance of yourself?..

Edited August 13, 2013 by gosling1960

[Andy_c 210]

^ go for something like this

[K.A.G 0]

Ok will have a look thanks

[jandcguns 65]

even a bsa lighting, but buy a hw80 for example you buy quality buy once

[s200guy 12]

HW80s are absolutely horrible at 12ft/lb.

[jandcguns 65]

How's that ?:s say the man who shoots an s200

[jandcguns 65]

Lol sorry that came out wrog I ment to say how's that , you s200 guy how they shoot X-X

[jandcguns 65]

Still came out wrong I give up

[thursodog 353]

My shoots brilliant at sub 12.

Buy a Weihrauch hw97k and have it tuned then live happily ever after.

 

C

[andyfr1968 772]

HW80s are absolutely horrible at 12ft/lb.

 

How the hell have you come to that conclusion?? If you've only shot one it must've been a very bad example.

[s200guy 12]

 

HW80s are absolutely horrible at 12ft/lb.

 

How the hell have you come to that conclusion?? If you've only shot one it must've been a very bad example.

 

 

I've shot 2 different HW80s. Both brand new shop bought guns. They are accurate but the recoil compared to other springers is brutal and unnecessary for a sub 12ft/lb rifle. They are designed as 20-30 ft/lb air rifles and at 12ft/lb they just aren't efficient. I suspect with some work they can shoot a lot better but I would not recommend an HW80 @ 12ft/lb for a new shooter.

 

Maybe "absolutely horrible" is overboard. First choice for a FAC springer.

[andyfr1968 772]

 

 

HW80s are absolutely horrible at 12ft/lb.

 

How the hell have you come to that conclusion?? If you've only shot one it must've been a very bad example.

 

 

I've shot 2 different HW80s. Both brand new shop bought guns. They are accurate but the recoil compared to other springers is brutal and unnecessary for a sub 12ft/lb rifle. They are designed as 20-30 ft/lb air rifles and at 12ft/lb they just aren't efficient. I suspect with some work they can shoot a lot better but I would not recommend an HW80 @ 12ft/lb for a new shooter.

 

Maybe "absolutely horrible" is overboard. First choice for a FAC springer.

 

 

Sorry, mate but what you're saying is just wrong.

 

For a start in FAC or export spec. they run at around 18 from the factory. They can be turned up to low to mid twentys before they turn really rough.

 

Why would you think that a springer set at between 20 and 30 would be less harsh to shoot than one that's set below 12? Just think about it.......

[GSkye 94]

All this bout the HW80, I've got a BSA Lightning XL in .22 caliber for sale in my signature.

You'd have a good beginners/advanced break barrel rifle before the dust settles here

 

 

Hahahaha

Edited August 15, 2013 by GSkye