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[MIK 4,756]

All things being equal, the bigger dog will be quicker and faster than the smaller dog.

totally disagree just cause a dog is tall doesn't mean its fast some of the fastest dogs ive seen are around the 26 mark

[kranky 507]

 

 

All things being equal, the bigger dog will be quicker and faster than the smaller dog.

totally disagree just cause a dog is tall doesn't mean its fast some of the fastest dogs ive seen are around the 26 mark

That's why I said, all things being equal. There's going to be 20" dogs that are faster than 27" dogs but they won't be equals.

 

With the greatest respect, you ain't seen enough if they're the fastest dogs you've seen. It comes down to physics. If you've got 2 dogs with exactly the same muscle to bone to weight ratio and the exact same ratio of length to height but one is 24" and one is 28" then the 28" dog will be significantly faster than the 24" one. There's no denying that.

[bird 9,859]

only going on my dog now Bryn, he 25in 60lb and very fast for a 1x collie x grey.His take off speed is very fast, many time rabbit bolted out of a hole he on it in secs, not saying he would be as fast as whippet, but for a dog of his size he is very fast, and bunny on here seen him run few times after stuff, who on this thread. i think 25 -27in are big enough for big+small quarry no prob .!

[bunnys 1,228]

narrh yas got that wrong kranky ,to much specifics some of the fastest animals on planet aint 30 inches and a can assure yas tis ya may have a big fast thirty inch animal but in top greyhound that will be not as tall he would be very average speed wise .atb bunnnys..

[bunnys 1,228]

only going on my dog now Bryn, he 25in 60lb and very fast for a 1x collie x grey.His take off speed is very fast, many time rabbit bolted out of a hole he on it in secs, not saying he would be as fast as whippet, but for a dog of his size he is very fast, and bunny on here seen him run few times after stuff, who on this thread. i think 25 -27in are big enough for big+small quarry no prob .!

hi there ray i may also add brin his fast off ta mark more so for his xs ,theres no doubt and i will also say like beoing to small to large his also a detriment to any hound ,27 for a male animal for than capable of mosty feats expected of a lurcher , theres lots of other qualitys one needs more so in the larger type . atb bunnys.

[bird 9,859]

 

only going on my dog now Bryn, he 25in 60lb and very fast for a 1x collie x grey.His take off speed is very fast, many time rabbit bolted out of a hole he on it in secs, not saying he would be as fast as whippet, but for a dog of his size he is very fast, and bunny on here seen him run few times after stuff, who on this thread. i think 25 -27in are big enough for big+small quarry no prob .!

hi there ray i may also add brin his fast off ta mark more so for his xs ,theres no doubt and i will also say like beoing to small to large his also a detriment to any hound ,27 for a male animal for than capable of mosty feats expected of a lurcher , theres lots of other qualitys one needs more so in the larger type . atb bunnys.

 

[paulus 26]

if there was a correlation between height and speed then a giraffe would be the fastest land animal not the cheater

[C Hall 552]

Kranky you seem to think nobody has seen larger lurchers run but you

[MIK 4,756]

 

 

All things being equal, the bigger dog will be quicker and faster than the smaller dog.

totally disagree just cause a dog is tall doesn't mean its fast some of the fastest dogs ive seen are around the 26 mark

That's why I said, all things being equal. There's going to be 20" dogs that are faster than 27" dogs but they won't be equals.

 

With the greatest respect, you ain't seen enough if they're the fastest dogs you've seen. It comes down to physics. If you've got 2 dogs with exactly the same muscle to bone to weight ratio and the exact same ratio of length to height but one is 24" and one is 28" then the 28" dog will be significantly faster than the 24" one. There's no denying that.

 

I have probably seen as much if not more than yourself and I keep a type of hound that has a large percentage of D/H so they are a bigger stamp of dog but I don't keep a bigger type for there speed ...If your knowledge of physics was correct then why are most winning thorughbreds around the 16 hands and not 19 and why is Usain Bol,t not 7' 6"?

[kranky 507]

if there was a correlation between height and speed then a giraffe would be the fastest land animal not the cheater

But the Cheetahs leg length to body height ratio and muscle mass is greater than a giraffes and a giraffe has a much higher centre of gravity.

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

All things being equal, the bigger dog will be quicker and faster than the smaller dog.

totally disagree just cause a dog is tall doesn't mean its fast some of the fastest dogs ive seen are around the 26 mark

That's why I said, all things being equal. There's going to be 20" dogs that are faster than 27" dogs but they won't be equals.

 

With the greatest respect, you ain't seen enough if they're the fastest dogs you've seen. It comes down to physics. If you've got 2 dogs with exactly the same muscle to bone to weight ratio and the exact same ratio of length to height but one is 24" and one is 28" then the 28" dog will be significantly faster than the 24" one. There's no denying that.

 

I have probably seen as much if not more than yourself and I keep a type of hound that has a large percentage of D/H so they are a bigger stamp of dog but I don't keep a bigger type for there speed ...If your knowledge of physics was correct then why are most winning thorughbreds around the 16 hands and not 19 and why is Usain Bol,t not 7' 6"?

 

the same reason why the Bolt would not get anywhere near Mo over 10.000 meters, The old saying "horses for courses"

[paulus 26]

 

if there was a correlation between height and speed then a giraffe would be the fastest land animal not the cheater

But the Cheetahs leg length to body height ratio and muscle mass is greater than a giraffes and a giraffe has a much higher centre of gravity.

 

so why is a cheater faster than a lioness

[ian 1 36]

ive seen a few big dogs that are 28 and above run on the bigger quarry they are good if they get hold and can be quite fast but alot of them need a big field and they loose out on the turn ,where a smaller dog can turn alot better and get back to the quarry alot quicker and kill it where the big dog can loose it because the quarry has gained to much ground and hit the woods or hegde

[kranky 507]

Kranky you seem to think nobody has seen larger lurchers run but you

It's when people trot out the same nonsense time after time and quote the great THL "facts", that it's obvious that they haven't seen stuff.

 

You know the sort of thing, beddy x whippets pulling fallow bucks, deerhound x's not maturing until they are over 4 years old, big dogs turning like buses.

I'm sure other people have had big dogs but I question the quality of those dogs when people claim that 25" dogs are quicker and faster. I know a lot of people haven't got the confidence to give a big dog a long slip and maybe never get to see the potential of them.

[kranky 507]

 

 

 

 

All things being equal, the bigger dog will be quicker and faster than the smaller dog.

totally disagree just cause a dog is tall doesn't mean its fast some of the fastest dogs ive seen are around the 26 mark

That's why I said, all things being equal. There's going to be 20" dogs that are faster than 27" dogs but they won't be equals.

 

With the greatest respect, you ain't seen enough if they're the fastest dogs you've seen. It comes down to physics. If you've got 2 dogs with exactly the same muscle to bone to weight ratio and the exact same ratio of length to height but one is 24" and one is 28" then the 28" dog will be significantly faster than the 24" one. There's no denying that.

I have probably seen as much if not more than yourself and I keep a type of hound that has a large percentage of D/H so they are a bigger stamp of dog but I don't keep a bigger type for there speed ...If your knowledge of physics was correct then why are most winning thorughbreds around the 16 hands and not 19 and why is Usain Bol,t not 7' 6"?

Ok, you've seen more than me but the fastest dogs you've seen are 26". Maybe you haven't seen enough of the right thing.

 

If you don't keep a bigger dog for their speed, are they heavyset types or less racy? Are they for running or different tasks?

 

Once again, you have to ensure that all things are equal, even with regards to horses. Once horses get past a certain height, or any animal for that fact, they become too heavyset to remain racy, that's the whole point of my argument.

Usain Bolt is 6' 4", hardly average, and very lean and lightly muscled, put him against a 6' contender for the worlds strongest man and he'll beat them because the muscle mass and physique is totally different. Surely if your argument is correct a 5'10" man of a matching build would beat Bolt in the sprint and would only start to lose ground during the 800 metres.