Astanley 11,565 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 id rather go and watch the running of the bulls maybe get involved abit No chance , I,m not built for running , I,d be the sad feker at the back with a bulls horn jammed up my arse. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I aint too fond of this but if there willing too fight ,........I don't think they should be allowed to go out of the ring ,...........they should stay in........instead of running behind screens.......its a cruel sport with suffering which I aint too keen on......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,869 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 id rather go and watch the running of the bulls maybe get involved abit No chance , I,m not built for running , I,d be the sad feker at the back with a bulls horn jammed up my arse. Ooo Er mrs you may like it :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Ok with bullfighting what you see is what you get.....a trapped bull, a 'ponce' matador blah blah blah Pheasant shooting? serves a purpose? guns line up and shoot pheasants which are so tame iv seen beaters pick them up and throw them in the air.....and the things iv seen behind the scenes on partridge shoots....... yes there are positive spin offs such as the economical benefits just as there are with the corrida but at the end of the day its done for pure enjoyment...... is that what you want? shall we discuss the bad points, sometimes very common bad points of various passtimes on an open public forum? thats the only outcome of comparing these different things. Again I didnt compare the bulls to fox hunting just the ignorance of some computer experts. Baw mentioned battering seal cubs, some people would say its a humane (certainly more humane that a wounded pheasant) sustainable harvest. Where are we going to stop trying to score points? Thats why I wont argue with you about it, not because I cant defend it, I just cant be arsed. If anyone has a genuine question about the bulls or my interest in them I will happily answer them. I gave up long ago arguing about foxhunting with opponents on forums etc as I realised I would never get anywhere with them, now if I want to promote hunting I would rather give my time to fieldsports organisations at country fairs etc or just trying to be a good ambassidor , ie dealing with people with an open mind who have real questions when they can then make up their own mind. I just refuse to debate with someone who has already used offensive descriptions about myself, my interest, or my friends who are directly involved with the subject. Its not that I think I know more that you so I'm right, I just couldnt give a feck what you think. Sorry mate but I've no idea why you have chosen to use pheasant shooting as an example. A bird that's released at 7 weeks and has another 3 months to disappear of the land is hardly the same as a trapped bull. There is no chance for the bull where thousands of pheasants have the 50/50 chance of survival if the fly high and fast enough.I respect your views on it, you seem to have a bit of hands on experience but I doubt I'd ever see it in a light where I want to go and watch it. For most of their lives the bulls live on huge fenceless ranches roaming free, basically wild hence their love of humans :laugh: Absolutely fantastic. I do wonder though why some see this as a sport/culture or whatever but if a Muslim slits a bulls throat to kill it its deemed barbaric?? I'm glad the bull has a good life, I'd be glad if it chased a man in fancy dress around a ring trying to gore the twat as well, right up till the point where they stick spears in it. Sorry I just can't get my head round that mate. Surely you wouldn't like to see say a lurcher course a deer with some Robin Hood type firing arrows into the poor b*****d... Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Ok with bullfighting what you see is what you get.....a trapped bull, a 'ponce' matador blah blah blah Pheasant shooting? serves a purpose? guns line up and shoot pheasants which are so tame iv seen beaters pick them up and throw them in the air.....and the things iv seen behind the scenes on partridge shoots....... yes there are positive spin offs such as the economical benefits just as there are with the corrida but at the end of the day its done for pure enjoyment...... is that what you want? shall we discuss the bad points, sometimes very common bad points of various passtimes on an open public forum? thats the only outcome of comparing these different things. Again I didnt compare the bulls to fox hunting just the ignorance of some computer experts. Baw mentioned battering seal cubs, some people would say its a humane (certainly more humane that a wounded pheasant) sustainable harvest. Where are we going to stop trying to score points? Thats why I wont argue with you about it, not because I cant defend it, I just cant be arsed. If anyone has a genuine question about the bulls or my interest in them I will happily answer them. I gave up long ago arguing about foxhunting with opponents on forums etc as I realised I would never get anywhere with them, now if I want to promote hunting I would rather give my time to fieldsports organisations at country fairs etc or just trying to be a good ambassidor , ie dealing with people with an open mind who have real questions when they can then make up their own mind. I just refuse to debate with someone who has already used offensive descriptions about myself, my interest, or my friends who are directly involved with the subject. Its not that I think I know more that you so I'm right, I just couldnt give a feck what you think. Sorry mate but I've no idea why you have chosen to use pheasant shooting as an example. A bird that's released at 7 weeks and has another 3 months to disappear of the land is hardly the same as a trapped bull. There is no chance for the bull where thousands of pheasants have the 50/50 chance of survival if the fly high and fast enough.I respect your views on it, you seem to have a bit of hands on experience but I doubt I'd ever see it in a light where I want to go and watch it. For most of their lives the bulls live on huge fenceless ranches roaming free, basically wild hence their love of humans :laugh: Absolutely fantastic. I do wonder though why some see this as a sport/culture or whatever but if a Muslim slits a bulls throat to kill it its deemed barbaric?? I'm glad the bull has a good life, I'd be glad if it chased a man in fancy dress around a ring trying to gore the twat as well, right up till the point where they stick spears in it. Sorry I just can't get my head round that mate. Surely you wouldn't like to see say a lurcher course a deer with some Robin Hood type firing arrows into the poor b*****d... Lol I think people just say halal is cruel and unnecessary to stir up some emotion. I oppose it because only Muslims can perform the slaughter,so it's a whole industry they can dominate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,025 Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 id rather go and watch the running of the bulls maybe get involved abit No chance , I,m not built for running , I,d be the sad feker at the back with a bulls horn jammed up my arse. There's a few folk who think ,,, it's the best place for a bulls horn................up a scousers arse. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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