Playing With A Cub

[redpat1 225]

Think you could do with someone to show you and your young dog the ropes mate.atb

You are right mate, I don't have any experienced dogs around me at the moment. I have had an offer who I will be replying to shortly.

[bullx100% 681]

Out for a yomp yesterday, my patt and springer were 30 meters in front playing with each other and genrally smashing through cover as they do! I noticed my beardie/grey X Whip had fallen behind, then heard an unusual bark from where I assumed her to be. Firstly I thought she had smashed herself up and the sphincter started to go, then I saw a brief flash as she and what I thought was a border terrier crossed across the path about 30-40 metres away. She then turned the animal towards me running next to it sort of boxing it but with little aggression I then realised it was a fox cub. The cub was trying to get away but she was just toying with it by controlling where he was going. The Patt caught wind and hurtled head on but by this time the cub deviated into the under growth to the safety of her well concealed unknown to me Den. I managed to call the lurcher off and had no choice but to rugby tackle the Patt as I am pretty sure she would have followed the fox to ground which I wasnt prepared for at all!

The lurcher is 15 months and is going to be my ferreting partner as well as a bit of lamping if I can ever get her to retrieve (that is another story). I know she is young and although broken to stock and ferrets I havent shown her much in the way of game. I am a little worried that she was more interested in playing with the cub but have my fingers crossed its down to immaturity or lack of experience, what do you guys think? She can be aggresive as she goes F$"&*ing loopy when she spots a cat.

I have left her a little late with the bunnies as I only got her several months ago and I spent a lot of time just letting her get used to me and the family and settling in, then the summer season was upon us. Do you think she will play with the rabbits? or will instinct kick in? I am in no rush.

Her sire and dam are both accomplished hunters and both will happily tackle all game without any fear at all.

All opinions gratefully recieved, can we keep it a positive thread though please guys.

 

Pat

a mate of mine had a bull x dog and the first time he saw a fox he ran in to it and lay down with it he didnt no what to do with it the fox was bit dazed because of the speed the dog hit the fox with.soon as the fox got its bearings it was up and gone.the next time that dog saw a fox was with one of my lurchers and when he saw my lurcher doing its job he new what he was meant to do and soon joined in and would take them on his own after.not all dogs see a fox and no that they are ment to hunt it.if you show it its job with another lurcher and it still doesnt want to know then id start worrying ....and im sure if the owner of the dog in question sees this he will tell u how humiliated he was at his killer bull x playing with foxes lol

[Crackers 807]

Not really he was a soldier always give 110% couldn't fault the dog for gameness just never seen one before.. Wasn't many that lived after that night though once he was on he was on. R.i.p big fella.

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

I didn't become a tradesman over night as I had to be taught what to do sme goes for your dog

[beddycross 18]

Thanks chaps, I think I am more worried that she lacks the minerials on game full stop, she seems to be a very placid dog and is very easy going at home but will put the terrier in its place when pushed. She wont even eat a barf diet! instead preferring to eat dry. She is a strange one.

I think she has thrown to the whippet too much to be a fox dog and if that was my intention I would have gone for a bit of DH,Beddy or Bull to start with I just dont want her getting in a tangle and getting her A%*£ handed to her, especially the vet bills. Saying that her mother is a 1st X Beardie and backs away from nothing although she is a much bigger animal all around with the attitude to match.

Sky is a lovely dog and she will be given plenty of opportunity to develop this coming season, just wish it would hurry up so we can get out there and get our hands dirty.

Whats the worry about the dog being placid especially if she is among your family(kids) better safe than sorry . I have 3 dogs 1 beddy whip 1st cross and 2 beddywhip/whippet lurchers and they are so placid with the kids and anyone else who comes to my place , but when they are out mooching or lamping they are a very different dog . one is quite old now in her twilight years and the other 2 are just comin into their second season they . were much like your dog sounds but have now grown into a pair of serious bunny bashers . and game as anything so be patient and your dog will come good .

[redpat1 225]

 

Thanks chaps, I think I am more worried that she lacks the minerials on game full stop, she seems to be a very placid dog and is very easy going at home but will put the terrier in its place when pushed. She wont even eat a barf diet! instead preferring to eat dry. She is a strange one.

I think she has thrown to the whippet too much to be a fox dog and if that was my intention I would have gone for a bit of DH,Beddy or Bull to start with I just dont want her getting in a tangle and getting her A%*£ handed to her, especially the vet bills. Saying that her mother is a 1st X Beardie and backs away from nothing although she is a much bigger animal all around with the attitude to match.

Sky is a lovely dog and she will be given plenty of opportunity to develop this coming season, just wish it would hurry up so we can get out there and get our hands dirty.

Whats the worry about the dog being placid especially if she is among your family(kids) better safe than sorry . I have 3 dogs 1 beddy whip 1st cross and 2 beddywhip/whippet lurchers and they are so placid with the kids and anyone else who comes to my place , but when they are out mooching or lamping they are a very different dog . one is quite old now in her twilight years and the other 2 are just comin into their second season they . were much like your dog sounds but have now grown into a pair of serious bunny bashers . and game as anything so be patient and your dog will come good .

 

Cheers BC, not worried about her being placid at home at all, in fact its preferable. I was wondering if dogs that are placid at home can turn out placid and gentle out in the field so therefore lacking in instinct and drive when needed.

Strangely, since the cub incident she is diving into cover and constantly monitoring her surrounds looking for anything moving. She has now picked up on a few tree rats in the last few days, something she never noticed or bothered with before. I think that perhaps she is starting to realise what it is all about.

Edited August 9, 2013 by redpat1

[lurchermann 30]

get some game infront of her pal and you should see a change.all the best and keep us posted.

[beddycross 18]

 

 

Thanks chaps, I think I am more worried that she lacks the minerials on game full stop, she seems to be a very placid dog and is very easy going at home but will put the terrier in its place when pushed. She wont even eat a barf diet! instead preferring to eat dry. She is a strange one.

I think she has thrown to the whippet too much to be a fox dog and if that was my intention I would have gone for a bit of DH,Beddy or Bull to start with I just dont want her getting in a tangle and getting her A%*£ handed to her, especially the vet bills. Saying that her mother is a 1st X Beardie and backs away from nothing although she is a much bigger animal all around with the attitude to match.

Sky is a lovely dog and she will be given plenty of opportunity to develop this coming season, just wish it would hurry up so we can get out there and get our hands dirty.

Whats the worry about the dog being placid especially if she is among your family(kids) better safe than sorry . I have 3 dogs 1 beddy whip 1st cross and 2 beddywhip/whippet lurchers and they are so placid with the kids and anyone else who comes to my place , but when they are out mooching or lamping they are a very different dog . one is quite old now in her twilight years and the other 2 are just comin into their second season they . were much like your dog sounds but have now grown into a pair of serious bunny bashers . and game as anything so be patient and your dog will come good .

 

Cheers BC, not worried about her being placid at home at all, in fact its preferable. I was wondering if dogs that are placid at home can turn out placid and gentle out in the field so therefore lacking in instinct and drive when needed.

Strangely, since the cub incident she is diving into cover and constantly monitoring her surrounds looking for anything moving. She has now picked up on a few tree rats in the last few days, something she never noticed or bothered with before. I think that perhaps she is starting to realise what it is all about.

 

they can be placid at home and a real hunter , they just all twig at different times mate . like i said i have two litter brothers one was flat out by 13 months old and the other didnt really show anything until about 18months old , just keep at it and she will turn the corner ,