"digging Bitches"

[the_stig 6,614]

 

I think dev touched on it --but how do you keep your line going if your not keeping and proving your bitchs --- as for big names why use them once you`ve got going and got yourself a proven dog and 2 proven bitchs the average terrierman should be set up for life -----the problems start when you have to start buying in do the leg work and set yourselfs up theres no short cuts in this game many have tried and failed if your in it for the long term --do your homework..

100% right Stig, what 'seems' to be the case in the terrier world is the lean toward dogs, as you said, because of 'names'. I see it more with younger lads getting into the game, its dogs only in the kennels.

I think lads who have been in the game longer know the value of a good bitch and rightly so.

You can have the best dog in the world but if your putting it to unproven bitches because thats all you got or can find, your a damn fool..!

 

the value of a good tested bitch comes when you yourself want a litter from it --simple ..

[spindolero 1,111]

 

 

I think dev touched on it --but how do you keep your line going if your not keeping and proving your bitchs --- as for big names why use them once you`ve got going and got yourself a proven dog and 2 proven bitchs the average terrierman should be set up for life -----the problems start when you have to start buying in do the leg work and set yourselfs up theres no short cuts in this game many have tried and failed if your in it for the long term --do your homework..

100% right Stig, what 'seems' to be the case in the terrier world is the lean toward dogs, as you said, because of 'names'. I see it more with younger lads getting into the game, its dogs only in the kennels.

I think lads who have been in the game longer know the value of a good bitch and rightly so.

You can have the best dog in the world but if your putting it to unproven bitches because thats all you got or can find, your a damn fool..!

 

the value of a good tested bitch comes when you yourself want a litter from it --simple ..

 

Stig, you seen some of the best go, best bitch you seen?

[spindolero 1,111]

Didn't a lot of the old timers used to say breeding a steady badger dog to a hard fox bitch often produced good pups?

think JP said in one of Darcys booklets that the overhard bitches often threw the best pups

[the_stig 6,614]

 

 

 

I think dev touched on it --but how do you keep your line going if your not keeping and proving your bitchs --- as for big names why use them once you`ve got going and got yourself a proven dog and 2 proven bitchs the average terrierman should be set up for life -----the problems start when you have to start buying in do the leg work and set yourselfs up theres no short cuts in this game many have tried and failed if your in it for the long term --do your homework..

100% right Stig, what 'seems' to be the case in the terrier world is the lean toward dogs, as you said, because of 'names'. I see it more with younger lads getting into the game, its dogs only in the kennels.

I think lads who have been in the game longer know the value of a good bitch and rightly so.

You can have the best dog in the world but if your putting it to unproven bitches because thats all you got or can find, your a damn fool..!

 

the value of a good tested bitch comes when you yourself want a litter from it --simple ..

 

Stig, you seen some of the best go, best bitch you seen?

 

been a few ---- I saw cookies black rough bitch judy a lot did both --and a few strong gould bred bitchs..and more recently on fox a Russell that go`s back a few generations to chapmans gear ..

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

Only kept 2 dogs in the last 13 yrs-always keep bitches find them more consistant than dogs imo-alot of people over look the importance of having a damn good bitch and think the dog is the key i think different atb

[Glyn..... 5,208]

Didn't a lot of the old timers used to say breeding a steady badger dog to a hard fox bitch often produced good pups?

that's why there's so much shit about now

Edited August 8, 2013 by Glyn.....

[Pedwar 320]

 

Didn't a lot of the old timers used to say breeding a steady badger dog to a hard fox bitch often produced good pups?

that's why there's so much shit about now

 

Aint that the truth

[strongbow 149]

Didn't a lot of the old timers used to say breeding a steady badger dog to a hard fox bitch often produced good pups?

most failed proper bred digging dogs or bitches are hard on foxes, fox bullies I call them. this is just a v.poor excause for these old timers to breed from a animal that just is not good enough

[Cleanspade 3,322]

listen to the old timers getting a kickin. hands up if your under thirty . the stuff in everyones yards was put there with the old timers. lol. my best terriers to ground have been bitches. i prefare a good bitch. to be honest i never found a difference between sexes.. can you actually allow for the sex of a terrier.. they are all terriers

[dee mac 579]

 

 

I think dev touched on it --but how do you keep your line going if your not keeping and proving your bitchs --- as for big names why use them once you`ve got going and got yourself a proven dog and 2 proven bitchs the average terrierman should be set up for life -----the problems start when you have to start buying in do the leg work and set yourselfs up theres no short cuts in this game many have tried and failed if your in it for the long term --do your homework..

100% right Stig, what 'seems' to be the case in the terrier world is the lean toward dogs, as you said, because of 'names'. I see it more with younger lads getting into the game, its dogs only in the kennels.

I think lads who have been in the game longer know the value of a good bitch and rightly so.

You can have the best dog in the world but if your putting it to unproven bitches because thats all you got or can find, your a damn fool..!

 

the value of a good tested bitch comes when you yourself want a litter from it --simple ..

 

a good well tested bitch is prob more of an asset than 3 well test dogs imo

[strongbow 149]

listen to the old timers getting a kickin. hands up if your under thirty . the stuff in everyones yards was put there with the old timers. lol. my best terriers to ground have been bitches. i prefare a good bitch. to be honest i never found a difference between sexes.. can you actually allow for the sex of a terrier.. they are all terriers

sorry if my post was misunderstood cleanspade but I was replying to a post where ''old timmers'' were refered to

[fat man 4,741]

 

 

 

I think dev touched on it --but how do you keep your line going if your not keeping and proving your bitchs --- as for big names why use them once you`ve got going and got yourself a proven dog and 2 proven bitchs the average terrierman should be set up for life -----the problems start when you have to start buying in do the leg work and set yourselfs up theres no short cuts in this game many have tried and failed if your in it for the long term --do your homework..

100% right Stig, what 'seems' to be the case in the terrier world is the lean toward dogs, as you said, because of 'names'. I see it more with younger lads getting into the game, its dogs only in the kennels.

I think lads who have been in the game longer know the value of a good bitch and rightly so.

You can have the best dog in the world but if your putting it to unproven bitches because thats all you got or can find, your a damn fool..!

 

the value of a good tested bitch comes when you yourself want a litter from it --simple ..

 

a good well tested bitch is prob more of an asset than 3 well test dogs imo

The problem is that everybody's idea of tested or standards differ Dee.What I have might not suit the next man and visa-versa but I reckon a bitch should be no different to a dog work wise,there both bred to do a job.The biggest problem is lads breeding of low standard bitch's from decent dogs and hoping to get world beaters from the off spring,sometimes they will get 1-2 in the litter that make the grade but not consistently and a lot of the non-graders are sold on as pups only for them again when of age to be bred from and then the shite starts to spread.

[colliexgreyhound 119]

It's unbelievable how many people use top quality dogs to sub standard bitches just because the dog there using is top quality doesnt mean that its going to compensate for the bitch being below par. And another thing a lot are doing is using an extremely hard dog for a stud that never gets used on a 30min+ dig. You would be surprised by the amount of these dogs that will quit when alls not going there way.

[the_stig 6,614]

listen to the old timers getting a kickin. hands up if your under thirty . the stuff in everyones yards was put there with the old timers. lol. my best terriers to ground have been bitches. i prefare a good bitch. to be honest i never found a difference between sexes.. can you actually allow for the sex of a terrier.. they are all terriers

I`m getting a few likes and a slagging for being an old kunt

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

I like dogs myself I find them more steady but stick a big swollen minky near them and the work goes out the window. the thing about a good line it requires both sexes and luck to be on your side