gasman 53 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 There is a lot of men breeding of poor bitchs these days, with the excuse that it goes back to there old Rip, Jack, Samson, ect. The bigger the name the bigger the culprit 1 Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) There is a lot of men breeding of poor bitchs these days, with the excuse that it goes back to there old Rip, Jack, Samson, ect. The bigger the name the bigger the culprit a lot of men --based on what be interesting for you to expand on this comment -------this is my view worker to worker bred tight and from good proven lines be it big names of billy bloggs they should throw an equal amount of working dogs to bitchs ---some men prefer the working style of a dog if there is one over a bitch others don't give a feck ------- I`ve been in the game a long time and never heard or read the statement you`ve made -- why the bigger the name the bigger the culprit -------------- theres been and still is over the last 10 year good working bitchs from the so called big names ----------- and billy bloggs the back yard terrierman . Edited August 7, 2013 by the_stig Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I think dev touched on it --but how do you keep your line going if your not keeping and proving your bitchs --- as for big names why use them once you`ve got going and got yourself a proven dog and 2 proven bitchs the average terrierman should be set up for life -----the problems start when you have to start buying in do the leg work and set yourselfs up theres no short cuts in this game many have tried and failed if your in it for the long term --do your homework.. 6 Quote Link to post
clueless 11 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 If you aren't guaranteed a good dog/hitch from breeding two proven dogs then surely if the hitch isn't any good she could still produce good workers there is not guarantees with any scenario so what s the issue ????? Quote Link to post
marshman 7,757 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 If you aren't guaranteed a good dog/hitch from breeding two proven dogs then surely if the hitch isn't any good she could still produce good workers there is not guarantees with any scenario so what s the issue ????? yep there's no guarantee how ever there is credence to the theory " that if you breed a shite bitch to a shite dog you'll only get a bigger percentage of shite" ?lol !! 1 Quote Link to post
Pedwar 320 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 There is a lot of men breeding of poor bitchs these days, with the excuse that it goes back to there old Rip, Jack, Samson, ect. The bigger the name the bigger the culprit Naughty naughty Quote Link to post
kirstysdad 827 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 as someone has already said dogs get names bitches get pups the problem i have is number of bitches to dogs per litter last 3 litters have all had 1 bitcth in them and the rest were dogs and also always 1 black and tan dog and the rest red some would say they are starting to breed true as you can tell usualy what the litter is going to be like numbers and colour wise before they are born but would like to see more bitches per litter and they should be tested the same as a dog and only bred from when they prove them selves 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Didn't a lot of the old timers used to say breeding a steady badger dog to a hard fox bitch often produced good pups? 1 Quote Link to post
MasterBates 6 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 There's plenty of real good bitches about, you just have to know were to look who needs big names? To put gear on the bank Quote Link to post
harvey d 43 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 you should treat them both the same, and if they are not doing it i would not breed however well bred it is, you just need the right one to start with, and be honest if you,re doing it with you,re bitches you have no problems ATB Quote Link to post
MasterBates 6 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 haven't seen a quality digging bitch for a while,,,,, the last I seen was an old gouldy bitch, and that was about 4 years ago and nothing since has come close. try and look at some different colours of bitches you'll get your eyes open if not youll get more Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 If you aren't guaranteed a good dog/hitch from breeding two proven dogs then surely if the hitch isn't any good she could still produce good workers there is not guarantees with any scenario so what s the issue ????? That's the very reason that there is so much shit about,breeding of non proven terriers,both dogs and bitch's.Why would you breed of a bitch that's no good,refrase that,why would you keep a bitch that's no good,there is only 1 reason £££££££££. 1 Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Didn't a lot of the old timers used to say breeding a steady badger dog to a hard fox bitch often produced good pups? or a good badger dog to a good badger bitch 3 Quote Link to post
clueless 11 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Fat man I hope you don't think I was condoneing breeding off unproven animals I was just noteing the fact that proven to proven isn't guaranteeing quality offspring. If you look through most breeds not just terriers. Ppl are breeding for money which is not good, plus slightly off point ppl are making up breeds now and claiming the animals are worth 500 plus which is hurrendous. There is too many people who only care about the money. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I think dev touched on it --but how do you keep your line going if your not keeping and proving your bitchs --- as for big names why use them once you`ve got going and got yourself a proven dog and 2 proven bitchs the average terrierman should be set up for life -----the problems start when you have to start buying in do the leg work and set yourselfs up theres no short cuts in this game many have tried and failed if your in it for the long term --do your homework.. 100% right Stig, what 'seems' to be the case in the terrier world is the lean toward dogs, as you said, because of 'names'. I see it more with younger lads getting into the game, its dogs only in the kennels. I think lads who have been in the game longer know the value of a good bitch and rightly so. You can have the best dog in the world but if your putting it to unproven bitches because thats all you got or can find, your a damn fool..! Quote Link to post
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