Tallywacker 262 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Which strains do you lads think are more known for producing digging bitches then others? The majority of digging bitches that I have seen were gould bred. Quote Link to post
dev 226 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Do they not all produce digging bitches? After all if the bitches arent digging surely the line would die out because the bitches would be/should be culled.... Edited August 6, 2013 by dev 6 Quote Link to post
Tallywacker 262 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Of course they all produce bitches!! But which strains do the lads think are producing more quality bitches then others, Quote Link to post
elisderyn 496 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 haven't seen a quality digging bitch for a while,,,,, the last I seen was an old gouldy bitch, and that was about 4 years ago and nothing since has come close. Quote Link to post
CHIP 39 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Do they not all produce digging bitches? After all if the bitches arent digging surely the line would die out because the bitches would be/should be culled.... for me dev there does seem to be something in it,good dogs more numerous than good bitches,i see the sense in why some lads only or mostly keep and work bitches. Quote Link to post
dev 226 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Never really had that problem. My dogs and bitches are equally as bad as each other!!! Lol 4 Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 been plenty of good digging bitchs about --some get took out of circulation for breeding --dogs tend to make the name more if there used for stud smithy bred minor bred rex bred ----plenty of lads keep good working bitchs ---------------if your talking strains your talking the so called big names where theres plenty of lads that have bitchs bred from worker to worker that keep and work bitchs ----------------got a bitch here no fancy names russellxpat been a match for any dog if I put pups for for sale out of her no one would have a clue if I put pups out of say goulds smithy from a 100% working bitch be a different story --- bitchs don't get the credit they sometimes deserve ....from a selling point of view its dogs names that sell pups.. 16 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Plenty of good honest working bitch's about,as Dev said,if they were not about you would not have good dogs either as I think the bitch is far more important in the breeding programme.I have always if possible kept tp a type that suits me and the diging I do.I like a bitch that is well capable of ending matters below ground and a dog that will do the same on a regular basis.I had a small patt bitch years ago that could finish a fox in a very short time and still come away without a lot of grief for her efforts,she eventually was stolen along with every other terrier I had in the yard at the time.This bitch I bred twice,1st to a very hard little dog I had{also stolen} and most of the litter worked well,then 2nd time to a dog belonging to a chap of here also a hard type but a hound bitch I also had at the time got in with her and killed all the pups so I ended with nothing from that line in the end as all was either dead or stolen.Bitch I have at the min is a very hard bitch,well bred by a man that is producing consistant litters anytime he breeds.I also have 2 bitch's of this bitch back to her uncle which are ready to start this season and I know where there is another 1 of the litter in a pet home which is not a bad thing,1 never knows when you might need the breeding back,and a brother to these has been dug to already so a good sign,fingersx. 6 Quote Link to post
THE COBBLER 13 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 touchy subject this. a lot of people I have come across don't expect a bitch to be the standard of a dog, why not?? they seem happy enough to breed from bitchs that work like the dogs the would cull. what I do know is that a good bitch seems to be a lot harder to come by then a good dog, and this is probably what it boils down to. personally iv always thought a good bitch is better then a good dog. 6 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Definitely good digging bitches about, it's just that the lads that keep them don't shout their mouths off or advertise pups or studs, so unless you know them personally you won't know what they have. Also I think the statement about the Gouldy bitches is a bit vague, is there such thing as a 'Gouldy' line anymore? Quote Link to post
dee mac 579 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 digging bitch s is a very fickle thing in this game and a lot of men would be a lot harder on dogs standard wise and give a bye ball to bitch s which i thing is not a good thing a lot of men try to breed bitch s which resemble a dog ie bit more bone size etc me included but the one thing thats common with dogs and bitch s reguardless or what size they come is that they should have the same heart to work and see job out the same as any dog should ! over the years in my experience the decent bitch s that i ve had the pleasure to dig over( not all mine ) had a brain they worked smart and were relentless some were hard others worked smart one even kept barking with her mouth full but compared to the number of dogs i ve dug over there not as plentyfull as for the question which line produced the most working bitch s thats neither here nor there as every line produces good bitch s good dogs and bad bitch s and bad dogs and no man can argue with that its the standard each man has in his kennells thats decides whats kept and whats not . 5 Quote Link to post
Naustroms 92 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 The bitches should be getting it as good as the dogs. Tested workers on each end of the breeding. 1 Quote Link to post
lakieman 25 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Well said dee cant understand why men would breed of a bitch that isnt doing the job well, its a bad way of thinking to say its a dogs game ,Most of the digging dogs I've had have been bitch's . You have to ask yourself if the bitch was a dog would you breed from it if the answer is no then you shouldn't breed from her simple as that Quote Link to post
marshman 7,757 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I agree 100% that a bitch should be worked properly and proven before being bred , but I've seen a bitch recently that I would say was a good as any dog at the time if not better and she was bred to a good dog,and none of the pups turned out any good. There's no garrantee that a dog or bitch no matter how good they are will produce workers, but in saying that IMHO its the way it should be done !! Quote Link to post
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