Splashy 1 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Apologies if I have got completely the wrong end of the stick but I would like to have some things clarified before someone sends you a load of money. Regarding doggame I bought a bipod off you and have not received it yet, maybe Royal Mail but you have not sent me proof of postage as promised. I paid via bank transfer to Garry Cox with a Gloucester sort code. You also use PayPal under the name of Kane James. You have been advertising a HTC Salsa and I can see from http://m.(!64.56:886/dave.graham.3990?refid=13 that the same phone model was used to upload pictures to Facebook. Can you please allay my fears as quickly as possible and I will then edit out this post. I just want to verify that you are not one of the Graham Brothers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve rb 0 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Read this thread cover to cover this morning and it's worried me to be honest. I'm looking for my first gun, I've send a dozen or so mails to various guys on gunstar for potential R10 / S410 / HW100 rifles for me. A couple seemed legit, many didn't bother to reply, but I'd often be reliant on getting the item posted.... Not ideal and the news that Paypal is 'banned' for this is new to me, so that was very useful - I'm not a huge fan but at least on ebay the most you can usually get stitched for is the cost of returning something to the seller if you follow the rules right. This isnt so clear then.... I couldn't see a 'sticky' on things to watch out for, is there one on here, or is it a question of buying face-to-face or from a dealer...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger shooter 58 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I always buy and sell face to face a whole lot easier but u get to know who's gen and who ain't! I got mistook for them guy but now people know me on falconry forums etc that I'm legit but be careful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Splashy 1 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 How about introducing a "Verified Seller" system. If you asked for 10p to be transferred via PayPal you would then have a proper name and address. If this address was PayPal confirmed then you could be pretty confident that it was correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrDjk 3 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I found a shotgun on guntrader a couple of years ago from an rfd in the Shetland Islands. I did a bank transfer and then worried that I had no come back if there way a problem so will use PayPal next time. Apart from the Shetlands being cut off due to the weather which delayed it and a cock up from Royal Mail all was well. All was well until the wife looked at the bank account and asked who Hatsan Escorts were! Hey ho! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeterButler 0 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I found a shotgun on guntrader a couple of years ago from an rfd in the Shetland Islands. I did a bank transfer and then worried that I had no come back if there way a problem so will use PayPal next time. Apart from the Shetlands being cut off due to the weather which delayed it and a cock up from Royal Mail all was well. All was well until the wife looked at the bank account and asked who Hatsan Escorts were! Hey ho! Gun related Paypal won't allow it, they have a blanket ban on everything gun related so you will have no protection from them. RFD to RFD transfer is the safest way and will probably cost you about £20 to your local RFD who will also check the gun is ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrDjk 3 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I did do an rfd to rfd transfer so no worries there. Out of interest how would PayPal know? Curious really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve rb 0 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Also on Paypal, I've been screwed by the buyer a few times, claiming I'd sent an empty box (or even worse when they collected a coffee machine then claimed they hadnt received it!!) and making a chargeback claim - money disappears quick as lightening and that's that. No come back. I only use paypal to receive when it's a gift (and then the buyer would be nuts, unless they know you), or, with a lump in throat, on ebay when it's a 100% positively reviewed buyer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy pepper 222 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I've been in contact with a person, i'm not naming them, but has been scammed twice from them.. if you get scammed twice of the same person on diffrent occasions its your own fault in my book Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Splashy 1 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 jed12 alias Dave Graham. Trying it on again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Splashy earns the Honourable Nestle award started by egg on AGF, The Golden Graham! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ginger shooter 58 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Does that mean I'm off the list now that I'm a genuine from the shire :-D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scissorman 13 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Over the last couple of weeks, there have been numerous attempted scams of this forum. aalover, trying to sale a ginb stock, once a buyer mentions face to face, the item is suddenly sold, typical MO of family of scammers who are well known sammy_78 trying to sell/swap a l/h s400. one minute brand new, the next 2003, bought it without realising it was l/h, a silly mistake anyone could make. sold it, but then advertized in gunstar.. Please beware.. Hi Had this happen a couple of times on gunstar when I was looking for an AA 510 found one that seem a real bargain (to good to be true) I phoned the guy to ask was it still for sale and where was he, yes its still for sale where am I coming from. (gun was about mile drive) he said I could pay pal and he would post, if not happy I could return. I said I would set off in 20 mins and be with him in a couple of hours.5 mins later calls back and says its sold!!!!!!!! 4 days later its back on Gunstar. I email and ask "is it still for sale" answer yes! So I phoned him and asked what happened to the sale and could I come to collect. Guess what he hangs up and wont answer calls, last time I called (phoned him 5 or 6 times a day for a couple of weeks) got a number not recognised message. Contacted Gunstar didnt even get back to me !!!!!!! BE VERY CAREFULL ALWAYS TRY FOR FACE TO FACE but dont give up on trust. Anthony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sgarbh 0 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I guess this isn't the answer- for some reason- because it's too obvious. You get seller to use his local RFD, who sends the gun to your RFD (seller has previously contacted and verified your RFD as genuine, and has arranged things with him- see later). You contact your RFD to confirm gun is as described and sound. You then send the money. On receipt of the money seller contacts your RFD and authorises release of gun to you. Simpilz- too simpilz, presumably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rabbitcatcher 1 287 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Just thaught I'd let people know there's 2 guns on gunstar huntsman classic and s510 plus extras £800 rang the guy and he said he'd get back to me, but didn't. Rang again today spoke to him asked why he didn't reply, said he'd had a time waster last night, he would see how far apart we were and get back, but didn't Now he's put a air ranger up with mtc scope for 680 I think he is trying to have a lend of people I could be wrong but I don't think I am Just a heads up lads Cheers rc1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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