bobby blackheart 1,209 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 18:31, gnasher16 said: I was thinking more about the skeleton of a large animal.........i mean without getting all forensic,if a human skull for instance thats been buried can be identified after years and years..................what is it about animal bones that are just left on top of the ground that makes them dissapear.. sun and weather breaks them down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:25, scothunter said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:12, NEWKID said: On 01/08/2013 at 19:44, scothunter said: On 01/08/2013 at 18:55, gnasher16 said: On 01/08/2013 at 18:46, scothunter said: yea mate must have been same programme. they also were going into villages.sneakily walking quiet(which i found hard to believe,but they apparantly can be very quiet) anyway they would go into these villages in the dead of night,and with there trunks pull c**ts out there beds and smash them to death on the ground. scientists have a theory they do this cause the villages are getting to close to thier terrority.and they see them as a threat. Well bollocks to the EDL then lets just build some elephant parks on the fringes of Hounslow/Birmingham/Bradford ! when i seen that programme,i thought f**k even the wildlife hate the tribes lol I spent 3 days on an elephant safari in Kenya mate, when your in a land rover and a bull elephant is 50 foot away swishing it ears about and the guide says " you see how that big bull is acting there, he's getting a bit annoyed its time we moved on" your ass twtches a bit lol.. The guide told us that a bull elephant charged a land rover once and stuck its tusks through and was shaking the thing like a baked bean can... Awesome animals mate... And they make some racket at night when your sleeping in a tent lol... think there great lol the indian elephant seen one on tv he was a teenager,they had to keep him chained as his testosterone level was out of this world,and if he got free would go on a rampage and killing at random think it lasts about 2year lol. even its eyes were blood red and that crazy look lol sorry for hyjacking your thread gnash lol My mate works for a waste disposal company and one of his jobs is to empty the septic tanks from this community of Hindus or Buddhists or something.. They have got all sorts of animals there in their sanctuary, one of them is a 30 odd year old elephant! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:30, Malt said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:25, scothunter said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:12, NEWKID said: On 01/08/2013 at 19:44, scothunter said: On 01/08/2013 at 18:55, gnasher16 said: On 01/08/2013 at 18:46, scothunter said: yea mate must have been same programme. they also were going into villages.sneakily walking quiet(which i found hard to believe,but they apparantly can be very quiet) anyway they would go into these villages in the dead of night,and with there trunks pull c**ts out there beds and smash them to death on the ground. scientists have a theory they do this cause the villages are getting to close to thier terrority.and they see them as a threat.Well bollocks to the EDL then lets just build some elephant parks on the fringes of Hounslow/Birmingham/Bradford ! when i seen that programme,i thought f**k even the wildlife hate the tribes lol I spent 3 days on an elephant safari in Kenya mate, when your in a land rover and a bull elephant is 50 foot away swishing it ears about and the guide says " you see how that big bull is acting there, he's getting a bit annoyed its time we moved on" your ass twtches a bit lol.. The guide told us that a bull elephant charged a land rover once and stuck its tusks through and was shaking the thing like a baked bean can... Awesome animals mate... And they make some racket at night when your sleeping in a tent lol... think there great lol the indian elephant seen one on tv he was a teenager,they had to keep him chained as his testosterone level was out of this world,and if he got free would go on a rampage and killing at random think it lasts about 2year lol. even its eyes were blood red and that crazy look lol sorry for hyjacking your thread gnash lol My mate works for a waste disposal company and one of his jobs is to empty the septic tanks from this community of Hindus or Buddhists or something.. They have got all sorts of animals there in their sanctuary, one of them is a 30 odd year old elephant! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skanda_Vale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frann 882 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 That monastery sounds near me but ive never heard of it before you post that link Malt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,680 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Sorry Gnash lol Elephants on my holidays lol... Went to Thailand with my ex, there was a young elephant in the hotel.. It was like a fcking great puppy lol, it would run around the hotel grounds twice a day then run into the sea, the kids would play with it, it would spray them etc fcking mental... First day I saw it running round I thought someone had spiked my drink lol We went on a trip to the river Kwai, went accross the bridge, into a prisoner of war memorial etc.. And then on an elephant ride up the river, we'd made friends with a scouse couple they're elephant charged the banana stall ( locals sale them to feed the elephants), in one swoop of its trunk this elephant ate the lot lol... The scouse lad quick as you like shouts " even my elephant nicks like a scouser"... Brilliant lol.. At the end of the ride, you can have a massage from an elephant, I'm laid face down with this elephant very gently rubbing my back with it's front foot... I like elephants too mate lol... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:40, Frann said: That monastery sounds near me but ive never heard of it before you post that link Malt They were on the news a few years back when they had to have a cow destroyed that had bTB and they tried going to court to prevent it.. My mate shits himself visiting the place, swear he thinks they're going to try converting him or something! :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,557 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:11, stabba said: Flies..maggots ...all manner of carnivore wildlife..then then the insects will pick the bones totally clean...Bones will be dispersed by foxes..badgers..rats..dogs..cats..eventually the ground/foliage will cover the remaining bones up. Tests are done on Body farms throuoght america just for this particular purpose ..to see how a body breaksdown under natural circumstances. That all makes sense...but this is what i dont get......how is it we often hear cases where human remains have been found years after its been put in the ground and they can take all kinds of details from those remains down to the finest details.......yet with an animal barely anything is left within pretty short order.....i cant believe flies,maggots and the like are particularly fussy about their carcass ?...or are they prejudice against humans .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,680 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:45, gnasher16 said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:11, stabba said: Flies..maggots ...all manner of carnivore wildlife..then then the insects will pick the bones totally clean...Bones will be dispersed by foxes..badgers..rats..dogs..cats..eventually the ground/foliage will cover the remaining bones up. Tests are done on Body farms throuoght america just for this particular purpose ..to see how a body breaksdown under natural circumstances. That all makes sense...but this is what i dont get......how is it we often hear cases where human remains have been found years after its been put in the ground and they can take all kinds of details from those remains down to the finest details.......yet with an animal barely anything is left within pretty short order.....i cant believe flies,maggots and the like are particularly fussy about their carcass ?...or are they prejudice against humans .... Maybe because a human carcass is buried Gnash, not laying above ground, flies etc won't get at them below ground to lay the eggs... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:45, gnasher16 said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:11, stabba said: Flies..maggots ...all manner of carnivore wildlife..then then the insects will pick the bones totally clean...Bones will be dispersed by foxes..badgers..rats..dogs..cats..eventually the ground/foliage will cover the remaining bones up. Tests are done on Body farms throuoght america just for this particular purpose ..to see how a body breaksdown under natural circumstances. That all makes sense...but this is what i dont get......how is it we often hear cases where human remains have been found years after its been put in the ground and they can take all kinds of details from those remains down to the finest details.......yet with an animal barely anything is left within pretty short order.....i cant believe flies,maggots and the like are particularly fussy about their carcass ?...or are they prejudice against humans ....They probably could do the same with an animal carcass if they really needed to Gnash.. The ground is probably full of all sorts of bones.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:45, gnasher16 said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:11, stabba said: Flies..maggots ...all manner of carnivore wildlife..then then the insects will pick the bones totally clean...Bones will be dispersed by foxes..badgers..rats..dogs..cats..eventually the ground/foliage will cover the remaining bones up. Tests are done on Body farms throuoght america just for this particular purpose ..to see how a body breaksdown under natural circumstances. That all makes sense...but this is what i dont get......how is it we often hear cases where human remains have been found years after its been put in the ground and they can take all kinds of details from those remains down to the finest details.......yet with an animal barely anything is left within pretty short order.....i cant believe flies,maggots and the like are particularly fussy about their carcass ?...or are they prejudice against humans .... To hazard a guess I'd say only a small percentage of missing bodies are found years later. Certain conditions will preserve a body to differing degrees, so those that are found were probably due to the environment they were found in. That's purely a guess. Anyway Gnash, I had you down as a body disposal expert! I imagined somebody else starting a thread like this and you coming on with a worrying knowledge on the subject and a deep admiration of pigs! I'm a bit dissapointed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:45, gnasher16 said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:11, stabba said: Flies..maggots ...all manner of carnivore wildlife..then then the insects will pick the bones totally clean...Bones will be dispersed by foxes..badgers..rats..dogs..cats..eventually the ground/foliage will cover the remaining bones up. Tests are done on Body farms throuoght america just for this particular purpose ..to see how a body breaksdown under natural circumstances. That all makes sense...but this is what i dont get......how is it we often hear cases where human remains have been found years after its been put in the ground and they can take all kinds of details from those remains down to the finest details.......yet with an animal barely anything is left within pretty short order.....i cant believe flies,maggots and the like are particularly fussy about their carcass ?...or are they prejudice against humans ....It sometimes is to do with the size of the bones eg the thickness etc also if you leave bones on top of the soil they will deteriorate quicker through insects, weather and simple decomposition purely because the bacteria is constantly feeding. Sometimes when a body is buried it can preserve the body through the decomposition being slowed down and plus DNA can be extracted from parts of the bone that haven't been in contact with any air etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 You worrie me Gnasher....... London boy like your self asking on here ''How too get rid of a body...'' C'mon lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,557 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:53, Born Hunter said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:45, gnasher16 said: On 01/08/2013 at 20:11, stabba said: Flies..maggots ...all manner of carnivore wildlife..then then the insects will pick the bones totally clean...Bones will be dispersed by foxes..badgers..rats..dogs..cats..eventually the ground/foliage will cover the remaining bones up. Tests are done on Body farms throuoght america just for this particular purpose ..to see how a body breaksdown under natural circumstances. That all makes sense...but this is what i dont get......how is it we often hear cases where human remains have been found years after its been put in the ground and they can take all kinds of details from those remains down to the finest details.......yet with an animal barely anything is left within pretty short order.....i cant believe flies,maggots and the like are particularly fussy about their carcass ?...or are they prejudice against humans .... To hazard a guess I'd say only a small percentage of missing bodies are found years later. Certain conditions will preserve a body to differing degrees, so those that are found were probably due to the environment they were found in. That's purely a guess. Anyway Gnash, I had you down as a body disposal expert! I imagined somebody else starting a thread like this and you coming on with a worrying knowledge on the subject and a deep admiration of pigs! I'm a bit dissapointed. Nah i just stick to what i know ...........................................................f****n deep foundations in that Olympic Park didnt you notice 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,557 Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 On 01/08/2013 at 20:56, Tiny 7 said: You worrie me Gnasher....... London boy like your self asking on here ''How too get rid of a body...'' C'mon lol Listen.......When i say i want my dinner on the table at 7 i dont mean half past........Somethings got to give. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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