Who Supports The Edl (Tommy Robbinson) ......?

[mushroom 12,875]

Right Mushroom lets deal with your preoccupation with Stoning Show me one verse in the Quran where stoning is prescribed punishment for adultery or rape lets deal with this issue because all Shariat is based on the Qran now go to google . wikapeadia what ever source you have and show me the verse

Look ya clown everyone can see you dance around the answers no-one said it was in Sharia or part of. Your worse than a feckin woman for pulling bolloocks out of thin air so I'll say to you as I say to the mrs "Stop putting words in my mouth and listen to what was said"

 

Would you support the stoning of your wife or child if they were raped??? This happens in Iran every week, week in, week out!!

 

So either answer the feckin simple question (here's my answer "no") or fec off and we'll make our own minds up.

[Pedwar 320]

Stoning is a punishment for zina (adultery), among other things

[Malt 379]

 

 

I wish born hunter, and malt would watch this vid to the end.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

 

mushroom speaks the truth. Always keep in mind Islam is at war with the west, Muhammad said "war is deceit" That's why islamist are brilliant at twisting and contorting the truth .....

Sorry mate, I watch very few videos of a political nature posted on here.. I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than spend 45 minutes of my life watching a video that purports to tell the truth and tries to get to to look at things another way. 90% of the ones I have watched have all been about 'the truth' and learning about what 'they' don't tell you, well all I see is someone else's version of 'the truth' with very little to substantiate it apart from having a few facts that might fit a theory..

 

Apologies if it's not the case with that video, once burned and all that..

 

I'm the same malt even a year ago, you couldn't pay me to watch 10 seconds of any vid that wasn't field sports or hunting dog related (or porn lol), anyway no probs.

 

Like I said in the above post, it's nothing personal against you taking the time to watch these videos and post them up for the information of others, it's just I'm more of a reader than a viewer..

[paulus 26]

[paulus 26]

just passing the time

[desertbred 5,490]

 

Right Mushroom lets deal with your preoccupation with Stoning Show me one verse in the Quran where stoning is prescribed punishment for adultery or rape lets deal with this issue because all Shariat is based on the Qran now go to google . wikapeadia what ever source you have and show me the verse

Look ya clown everyone can see you dance around the answers no-one said it was in Sharia or part of. Your worse than a feckin woman for pulling bolloocks out of thin air so I'll say to you as I say to the mrs "Stop putting words in my mouth and listen to what was said"

 

Would you support the stoning of your wife or child if they were raped??? This happens in Iran every week, week in, week out!!

 

So either answer the feckin simple question (here's my answer "no") or fec off and we'll make our own minds up.

 

come on you say you have studied thier is nothing in shariat that is not verifiable from the Quran so come on lets see what you base your assumptions on what you read in the Mail what you seen on tv what your dog told you now take up the challenge if your able, Ask your Arab friend he must have read the Quran ask him to show if its there or not or will he lie to you you are the clown you are full of it now do it or shut up simple every one is witness lets have the debate based on what you think islam says

[desertbred 5,490]

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Edited July 30, 2013 by desertbred

[desertbred 5,490]

I can show reference to stoning in the Christian bible as for my Belief Shariat the Quran or islam does NOT permit the stoning of a woman or male for Zina which is sex either in or outside marriage now you want to prove me wrong? I can show the verse that gives the punishment but thier again I will be accused of lying as per LOL you are a joke Mushroom you have no bottle what so ever

[mushroom 12,875]

 

 

Right Mushroom lets deal with your preoccupation with Stoning Show me one verse in the Quran where stoning is prescribed punishment for adultery or rape lets deal with this issue because all Shariat is based on the Qran now go to google . wikapeadia what ever source you have and show me the verse

Look ya clown everyone can see you dance around the answers no-one said it was in Sharia or part of. Your worse than a feckin woman for pulling bolloocks out of thin air so I'll say to you as I say to the mrs "Stop putting words in my mouth and listen to what was said"

 

Would you support the stoning of your wife or child if they were raped??? This happens in Iran every week, week in, week out!!

 

So either answer the feckin simple question (here's my answer "no") or fec off and we'll make our own minds up.

 

come on you say you have studied thier is nothing in shariat that is not verifiable from the Quran so come on lets see what you base your assumptions on what you read in the Mail what you seen on tv what your dog told you now take up the challenge if your able, Ask your Arab friend he must have read the Quran ask him to show if its there or not or will he lie to you you are the clown you are full of it now do it or shut up simple every one is witness lets have the debate based on what you think islam says

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: me cago en la leche de tu madre.

 

You pathetically avoid a question that has a simple answer, exactly the same as a woman!

 

I would send you out of the UK your values are obviously not compatable with ours

[paulus 26]

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i did find this

 

 

The Qur'an and Sharia Law:

Sharia law is derived both from:

The teachings of the Mulsim holy book, the Qur'an, which is believed to be the Word of God, and From Sunna, the practices of the prophet Muhammad.

The term "Sharia" literally means "the path to a watering hole." "Sharia is a religious code for living, in the same way that the Bible offers a moral system for Christians." ₂

There are multiple forms of Sharia laws. For example, the Maliki Law School accepts evidence of pregnancy as proof that an unmarried woman has either committed adultery or been raped. "The other schools, namely Shafii, Hanbali, Hanafi and even the Shia do not recognize evidence of pregnancy as proof of Zina [Adultery]." ₃

"In the 19th century, many Muslim countries came under the control or influence of Western colonial powers. As a result, Western-style laws, courts, and punishments began to appear within the Sharia. Some countries like Turkey totally abandoned the Sharia and adopted new law codes based on European systems...Modern legislation along with Muslim legal scholars who are attempting to relate the will of Allah to the 20th century have reopened the door to interpreting the Sharia. This has happened even in highly traditional Saudi Arabia, where Islam began....Since 1980, some countries with fundamentalist Islamic regimes like Iran have attempted to reverse the trend of westernization and return to the classic Sharia." ₄

Within Sharia law, there are a group of "Hadd" offenses such as pre-marital sexual intercourse, sex by divorced persons, post-marital sex, adultery, false accusation of unlawful intercourse, drinking alcohol, theft, and highway robbery. Hadd sexual offenses carry a sentence of stoning to death or severe flogging. An eyewitness account of Soraya M, a woman executed by stoning, can be read on an anti-Iranian web site. Caution: do not read this if you have a weak stomach; it is quite graphic. ₅

Sharia law has been adopted in various forms by many countries, ranging from a strict interpretation in Saudi Arabia and northern states of Nigeria, to a relatively liberal interpretation in much of Malaysia. ₂

Chapter 24 of Islam's holy book, the Qur'an, explicitly instructs believers to whip those found guilty of adultery. A leading Muslim scholar, Maulana Muhammad Ali noted that "stoning to death was never contemplated by Islam as a punishment for adultery." Roman Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Dr. Anthony Olubunmi Okogie, said that the "official text of the Qur'an only sanctions a punishment of so many lashes for such an offence not stoning to death...[the] punishment of stoning was introduced later by Omar, the second Calif for reasons best known to him." ₆ Many Muslim scholars and judges agree that the Qur'an does not refer to executions by stoning. "...the Islamic legal scholar Tarik Abdul-Rahman states they are part of the Hadith (collections of sayings and acts of the Prophet), and go back to the Pentateuch (first five books of Hebrew Scripture)." ₇ Execution by stoning is thus in harmony with the 613 laws which make up the Mosaic code in the Bible.

Massoud Shadjareh, of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, opposes stoning sentences. He urges other Muslim leaders to speak out against them. Otherwise, he fears that what he calls an inhumane brand of Islamic law will take root in Nigeria. Shadjareh said:

"Shariah has been translated to be harsh, extreme treatment — it isn't." He argues that amputations and stonings are supposed to be used only as a last resort, and only within those Islamic societies that have eliminated poverty and corruption. Neither condition has yet been achieved, either in Nigeria or in other countries where stoning is practiced. ₁₃

Some interesting details associated with Sharia law:

Under the form of Sharia law that is practiced in Sudan, "the stones thrown during the execution should not be so large that the offender dies after a few strikes, nor so small as to fail to cause serious injury." ₇ A conviction normally requires a minimum of four witnesses who directly observed the sexual activity at the same time, or a freely-given confession by the defendant. However, as noted below, the former requirement is not always followed. If the woman is pregnant and either unmarried or divorced, she may be assumed to be guilty, if she is tried under the conservative Maliki Law School form of Sharia. ₈ Under "an obscure tenet of Islamic law,...an embryo can 'sleep' for years before swelling a woman's belly." ₉Thus, it is believed that an interval of up to seven years can pass between conception and birth. This means that a woman who is pregnant and has been divorced for fewer than seven years can theoretically claim that the father of the fetus is her former husband. Problems sometimes arise when an unmarried or divorced woman becomes pregnant as a result of a rape. Some Sharia courts do not recognize DNA testing or the evaluation of possible paternity by other blood tests. The case often results in a "she-said, he said" situation. Sometimes, the alleged rapist is found not-guilty because his involvement cannot be proven. But if an unmarried woman becomes pregnant, she can be assumed to be guilty of extra-marital sexual activity and can be executed. If she claims that she was raped and is unable to prove her case, then she will probably receive severe punishment, because she would be assumed guilty of making a false accusation. Sharia law is only applicable to Muslims. Christians and other non-Muslims are supposed to be exempt from the provisions of the law -- a provision that is ignored in the Sudan.

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

Right Mushroom lets deal with your preoccupation with Stoning Show me one verse in the Quran where stoning is prescribed punishment for adultery or rape lets deal with this issue because all Shariat is based on the Qran now go to google . wikapeadia what ever source you have and show me the verse

Look ya clown everyone can see you dance around the answers no-one said it was in Sharia or part of. Your worse than a feckin woman for pulling bolloocks out of thin air so I'll say to you as I say to the mrs "Stop putting words in my mouth and listen to what was said"

 

Would you support the stoning of your wife or child if they were raped??? This happens in Iran every week, week in, week out!!

 

So either answer the feckin simple question (here's my answer "no") or fec off and we'll make our own minds up.

 

come on you say you have studied thier is nothing in shariat that is not verifiable from the Quran so come on lets see what you base your assumptions on what you read in the Mail what you seen on tv what your dog told you now take up the challenge if your able, Ask your Arab friend he must have read the Quran ask him to show if its there or not or will he lie to you you are the clown you are full of it now do it or shut up simple every one is witness lets have the debate based on what you think islam says

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: me cago en la leche de tu madre.

 

You pathetically avoid a question that has a simple answer, exactly the same as a woman!

 

I would send you out of the UK your values are obviously not compatable with ours

 

you are obviously one slice short of loaf even you Spanish is dodgy LOL now you answering I will go for a sleep while I am waiting daft boy

[desertbred 5,490]

 

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i did find this

 

 

The Qur'an and Sharia Law:

Sharia law is derived both from:

The teachings of the Mulsim holy book, the Qur'an, which is believed to be the Word of God, and From Sunna, the practices of the prophet Muhammad.

The term "Sharia" literally means "the path to a watering hole." "Sharia is a religious code for living, in the same way that the Bible offers a moral system for Christians." ₂

There are multiple forms of Sharia laws. For example, the Maliki Law School accepts evidence of pregnancy as proof that an unmarried woman has either committed adultery or been raped. "The other schools, namely Shafii, Hanbali, Hanafi and even the Shia do not recognize evidence of pregnancy as proof of Zina [Adultery]." ₃

"In the 19th century, many Muslim countries came under the control or influence of Western colonial powers. As a result, Western-style laws, courts, and punishments began to appear within the Sharia. Some countries like Turkey totally abandoned the Sharia and adopted new law codes based on European systems...Modern legislation along with Muslim legal scholars who are attempting to relate the will of Allah to the 20th century have reopened the door to interpreting the Sharia. This has happened even in highly traditional Saudi Arabia, where Islam began....Since 1980, some countries with fundamentalist Islamic regimes like Iran have attempted to reverse the trend of westernization and return to the classic Sharia." ₄

Within Sharia law, there are a group of "Hadd" offenses such as pre-marital sexual intercourse, sex by divorced persons, post-marital sex, adultery, false accusation of unlawful intercourse, drinking alcohol, theft, and highway robbery. Hadd sexual offenses carry a sentence of stoning to death or severe flogging. An eyewitness account of Soraya M, a woman executed by stoning, can be read on an anti-Iranian web site. Caution: do not read this if you have a weak stomach; it is quite graphic. ₅

Sharia law has been adopted in various forms by many countries, ranging from a strict interpretation in Saudi Arabia and northern states of Nigeria, to a relatively liberal interpretation in much of Malaysia. ₂

Chapter 24 of Islam's holy book, the Qur'an, explicitly instructs believers to whip those found guilty of adultery. A leading Muslim scholar, Maulana Muhammad Ali noted that "stoning to death was never contemplated by Islam as a punishment for adultery." Roman Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Dr. Anthony Olubunmi Okogie, said that the "official text of the Qur'an only sanctions a punishment of so many lashes for such an offence not stoning to death...[the] punishment of stoning was introduced later by Omar, the second Calif for reasons best known to him." ₆ Many Muslim scholars and judges agree that the Qur'an does not refer to executions by stoning. "...the Islamic legal scholar Tarik Abdul-Rahman states they are part of the Hadith (collections of sayings and acts of the Prophet), and go back to the Pentateuch (first five books of Hebrew Scripture)." ₇ Execution by stoning is thus in harmony with the 613 laws which make up the Mosaic code in the Bible.

Massoud Shadjareh, of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, opposes stoning sentences. He urges other Muslim leaders to speak out against them. Otherwise, he fears that what he calls an inhumane brand of Islamic law will take root in Nigeria. Shadjareh said:

"Shariah has been translated to be harsh, extreme treatment — it isn't." He argues that amputations and stonings are supposed to be used only as a last resort, and only within those Islamic societies that have eliminated poverty and corruption. Neither condition has yet been achieved, either in Nigeria or in other countries where stoning is practiced. ₁₃

Some interesting details associated with Sharia law:

Under the form of Sharia law that is practiced in Sudan, "the stones thrown during the execution should not be so large that the offender dies after a few strikes, nor so small as to fail to cause serious injury." ₇ A conviction normally requires a minimum of four witnesses who directly observed the sexual activity at the same time, or a freely-given confession by the defendant. However, as noted below, the former requirement is not always followed. If the woman is pregnant and either unmarried or divorced, she may be assumed to be guilty, if she is tried under the conservative Maliki Law School form of Sharia. ₈ Under "an obscure tenet of Islamic law,...an embryo can 'sleep' for years before swelling a woman's belly." ₉Thus, it is believed that an interval of up to seven years can pass between conception and birth. This means that a woman who is pregnant and has been divorced for fewer than seven years can theoretically claim that the father of the fetus is her former husband. Problems sometimes arise when an unmarried or divorced woman becomes pregnant as a result of a rape. Some Sharia courts do not recognize DNA testing or the evaluation of possible paternity by other blood tests. The case often results in a "she-said, he said" situation. Sometimes, the alleged rapist is found not-guilty because his involvement cannot be proven. But if an unmarried woman becomes pregnant, she can be assumed to be guilty of extra-marital sexual activity and can be executed. If she claims that she was raped and is unable to prove her case, then she will probably receive severe punishment, because she would be assumed guilty of making a false accusation. Sharia law is only applicable to Muslims. Christians and other non-Muslims are supposed to be exempt from the provisions of the law -- a provision that is ignored in the Sudan.

 

it says under the sharia practised in sudan LOL Sudan circumcices women also but that is also not permitted in Islam Shariat has to be authenticated from the Quran whether sunni or shia shariat is formulated from the Quran not what different people assume is acceptable

Edited July 30, 2013 by desertbred

[mushroom 12,875]

 

 

 

 

Right Mushroom lets deal with your preoccupation with Stoning Show me one verse in the Quran where stoning is prescribed punishment for adultery or rape lets deal with this issue because all Shariat is based on the Qran now go to google . wikapeadia what ever source you have and show me the verse

Look ya clown everyone can see you dance around the answers no-one said it was in Sharia or part of. Your worse than a feckin woman for pulling bolloocks out of thin air so I'll say to you as I say to the mrs "Stop putting words in my mouth and listen to what was said"

 

Would you support the stoning of your wife or child if they were raped??? This happens in Iran every week, week in, week out!!

 

So either answer the feckin simple question (here's my answer "no") or fec off and we'll make our own minds up.

 

come on you say you have studied thier is nothing in shariat that is not verifiable from the Quran so come on lets see what you base your assumptions on what you read in the Mail what you seen on tv what your dog told you now take up the challenge if your able, Ask your Arab friend he must have read the Quran ask him to show if its there or not or will he lie to you you are the clown you are full of it now do it or shut up simple every one is witness lets have the debate based on what you think islam says

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: me cago en la leche de tu madre.

 

You pathetically avoid a question that has a simple answer, exactly the same as a woman!

 

I would send you out of the UK your values are obviously not compatable with ours

 

you are obviously one slice short of loaf even you Spanish is dodgy LOL now you answering I will go for a sleep while I am waiting daft boy

 

:laugh: Nowt wrong with my Spanish. "I shit in your mother's milk" Yep it was perfect

 

Plenty wrong with you refusing to answer the question

 

Imagine being able to contemplate stoning your wife or child after they had been violated 'kin beyond me

 

And as for your cutting the clit of a child is not permitted in Islam bolloocks yes it is all over the entire Muslim world this happens you can even find advice online from Imans

[desertbred 5,490]

all the scholars appear to have gone a little quiet LOL

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

 

 

Right Mushroom lets deal with your preoccupation with Stoning Show me one verse in the Quran where stoning is prescribed punishment for adultery or rape lets deal with this issue because all Shariat is based on the Qran now go to google . wikapeadia what ever source you have and show me the verse

Look ya clown everyone can see you dance around the answers no-one said it was in Sharia or part of. Your worse than a feckin woman for pulling bolloocks out of thin air so I'll say to you as I say to the mrs "Stop putting words in my mouth and listen to what was said"

 

Would you support the stoning of your wife or child if they were raped??? This happens in Iran every week, week in, week out!!

 

So either answer the feckin simple question (here's my answer "no") or fec off and we'll make our own minds up.

 

come on you say you have studied thier is nothing in shariat that is not verifiable from the Quran so come on lets see what you base your assumptions on what you read in the Mail what you seen on tv what your dog told you now take up the challenge if your able, Ask your Arab friend he must have read the Quran ask him to show if its there or not or will he lie to you you are the clown you are full of it now do it or shut up simple every one is witness lets have the debate based on what you think islam says

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: me cago en la leche de tu madre.

 

You pathetically avoid a question that has a simple answer, exactly the same as a woman!

 

I would send you out of the UK your values are obviously not compatable with ours

 

you are obviously one slice short of loaf even you Spanish is dodgy LOL now you answering I will go for a sleep while I am waiting daft boy

 

:laugh: Nowt wrong with my Spanish. "I shit in your mother's milk" Yep it was perfect

 

Plenty wrong with you refusing to answer the question

 

Imagine being able to contemplate stoning your wife or child after they had been violated 'kin beyond me

 

And as for your cutting the clit of a child is not permitted in Islam bolloocks yes it is all over the entire Muslim world this happens you can even find advice online from Imans

 

if you read my previous posts I have answered or do you only see if pictures attached? you again show me where islam permits it you are full of shit see my post at 6 minutes past 5

Edited July 30, 2013 by desertbred