mushroom 12,875 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 And just to add the far East were using methods so advanced of their time in processing metal 2000 years ago, I guess the knowledge must of come from ancient aliens instead of human creativity and ingenuity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) Mushroom Abraham was a common ancestor of both Muslims and Jews One son Isaac went the jewish line and the other Son I shmail went the islamic line The Prophethood of Muhammad completed Islam not started it so your wrong again Please tell me what the fec this statement has to do with our debate And to correct you again no particular line went into Islam or Christianity. Basically two nutters developed Judaism into Islam and Christianity the only point that stands you is that these nutters prefered the teachings and stories of either Ishmail or Issac. No different now to sunnis and shias one follows one decendent of Mohamed the other chooses to follow his cousin it's barking mad. It's like me saying Cirus the great was a prophet of his time coz he kicked a few arses about and made people believe in his pagan gods. You are commenting on a subject you obviously have no knowledge of or have misinformed sources Islam and Judaism have the same root you talked about before islam was invented, the word islam means total submission or surrender to Allah and as this was the beginning of creation then only one line can be followed unless you are Athiest Edited July 30, 2013 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 This is getting f*****g silly now.. I suppose everyone uses Roman numerals to do sums and tell the time eh..? Ps. When you're doing those sums using Arabic numerals, spare a thought for the = sign, it was first used by a Welshman! did you know a welsh sheep farmer discovered quadratic equations well fractional factorials Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 And just to add the far East were using methods so advanced of their time in processing metal 2000 years ago, I guess the knowledge must of come from ancient aliens instead of human creativity and ingenuity. yes not this much touted western intelligence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,875 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) Mushroom Abraham was a common ancestor of both Muslims and Jews One son Isaac went the jewish line and the other Son I shmail went the islamic line The Prophethood of Muhammad completed Islam not started it so your wrong again Please tell me what the fec this statement has to do with our debate And to correct you again no particular line went into Islam or Christianity. Basically two nutters developed Judaism into Islam and Christianity the only point that stands you is that these nutters prefered the teachings and stories of either Ishmail or Issac. No different now to sunnis and shias one follows one decendent of Mohamed the other chooses to follow his cousin it's barking mad. It's like me saying Cirus the great was a prophet of his time coz he kicked a few arses about and made people believe in his pagan gods. You are commenting on a subject you obviously have no knowledge of or have misinformed sources Islam and Judaism have the same root you talked about before islam was invented, the word islam means total submission or surrender to Allah and as this was the beginning of creation then only one line can be followed unless you are Athiest No single mention of Islam before mohammed invented it and like I said don't avoid it tell me what this has to do with what we were discussing. And no Islam and Christianity do not have the same root as Judaism, Judaism was the root and then power trippy guys come along with an elaborated message branching it out. Edited July 30, 2013 by mushroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 This is getting f*****g silly now.. I suppose everyone uses Roman numerals to do sums and tell the time eh..? Ps. When you're doing those sums using Arabic numerals, spare a thought for the = sign, it was first used by a Welshman! did you know a welsh sheep farmer discovered quadratic equations well fractional factorials If you're talking about Robert Recorde it's the same guy who invented the = sign and first started using the + sign In English! He was a physicist and mathematician though, not a sheep farmer! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Recorde Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Ps I don't suscribe to this IQ thing In my eyes the Mulsims were great in the past and forward thinking. Collecting as many of the ancient manuscripts from everywhere and translating into Arabic for the good of man, the zero etc but what happened??? Islam did! It allows only so much for progress the whole islamic world mentally and culturally is still in the 9th & 10th Centuries. It doesn't matter if you subscribe or not,facts are facts. Rubbish I have several Indian friends who have a phenominal intelligence one has 2 PHD's in Artificial intelligence and Maths. I have Muslim friends in UAE & Saudi who are making nearly half a mill every year in Islamic banking, My mrs is Mexican, her father has 3 PHD's is a director of 5 Scientific parks and R&D centers. The Mrs has 2 masters Currently looking at a work colleague now a girl from Nigeria she has a masters and speaks 4 langauges. The children from my local bar are chinese the oldest 12 years old speaks 7 languages, is currently studying chinese writing, in addition to his amazing maths/Science grades which have put him in for the possibility to take his exams 4 years early.....Your argument is flawed, unless you apply it to Britain's council estate trash Of course you get exceptional people of all races,that applies in all areas of life. But almost all of these exceptions offspring will return to the mean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Mushroom Abraham was a common ancestor of both Muslims and Jews One son Isaac went the jewish line and the other Son I shmail went the islamic line The Prophethood of Muhammad completed Islam not started it so your wrong again Please tell me what the fec this statement has to do with our debate And to correct you again no particular line went into Islam or Christianity. Basically two nutters developed Judaism into Islam and Christianity the only point that stands you is that these nutters prefered the teachings and stories of either Ishmail or Issac. No different now to sunnis and shias one follows one decendent of Mohamed the other chooses to follow his cousin it's barking mad. It's like me saying Cirus the great was a prophet of his time coz he kicked a few arses about and made people believe in his pagan gods. You are commenting on a subject you obviously have no knowledge of or have misinformed sources Islam and Judaism have the same root you talked about before islam was invented, the word islam means total submission or surrender to Allah and as this was the beginning of creation then only one line can be followed unless you are Athiest No single mention of Islam before mohammed invented it and like I said don't avoid it tell me what this has to do with what we were discussing. And no Islam and Christianity do not have the same root as Judaism, Judaism was the root and then power trippy guys come along with an elaborated message branching it out. give it up you havent got a clue what you are rambling on about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,875 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 This is getting f*****g silly now.. I suppose everyone uses Roman numerals to do sums and tell the time eh..? Ps. When you're doing those sums using Arabic numerals, spare a thought for the = sign, it was first used by a Welshman! did you know a welsh sheep farmer discovered quadratic equations well fractional factorials If you're talking about Robert Recorde it's the same guy who invented the = sign and first started using the + sign In English! He was a physicist and mathematician though, not a sheep farmer! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Recorde Being a physicist and mathematicion was his cover for buggering the sheep ......... "I was counting them honest" :laugh: 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 This is getting f*****g silly now.. I suppose everyone uses Roman numerals to do sums and tell the time eh..? Ps. When you're doing those sums using Arabic numerals, spare a thought for the = sign, it was first used by a Welshman! did you know a welsh sheep farmer discovered quadratic equations well fractional factorials If you're talking about Robert Recorde it's the same guy who invented the = sign and first started using the + sign I. English! He was a physicist and mathematician though, not a sheep farmer! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Recorde he was a sheep farmer Dr Dereck Bissell from one of your universities told me when i was doing advanced statistics and design of experiments Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,642 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 OK, Lets have this right........the Chinese, Japanese and Middle east had art, litrature and a very sophisticated culture when we were still wading about in pig shit but that said, once we got going we took it to our own level which had a massive impact on humanity. To say the middle east is backwards is nonsense, very different yes, but backwards no because their society is much older than ours. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,875 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) Mushroom Abraham was a common ancestor of both Muslims and Jews One son Isaac went the jewish line and the other Son I shmail went the islamic line The Prophethood of Muhammad completed Islam not started it so your wrong again Please tell me what the fec this statement has to do with our debate And to correct you again no particular line went into Islam or Christianity. Basically two nutters developed Judaism into Islam and Christianity the only point that stands you is that these nutters prefered the teachings and stories of either Ishmail or Issac. No different now to sunnis and shias one follows one decendent of Mohamed the other chooses to follow his cousin it's barking mad. It's like me saying Cirus the great was a prophet of his time coz he kicked a few arses about and made people believe in his pagan gods. You are commenting on a subject you obviously have no knowledge of or have misinformed sources Islam and Judaism have the same root you talked about before islam was invented, the word islam means total submission or surrender to Allah and as this was the beginning of creation then only one line can be followed unless you are Athiest No single mention of Islam before mohammed invented it and like I said don't avoid it tell me what this has to do with what we were discussing. And no Islam and Christianity do not have the same root as Judaism, Judaism was the root and then power trippy guys come along with an elaborated message branching it out. give it up you havent got a clue what you are rambling on about Don't be a defeatist you know I'm correct. Mohamed invented the idea of Islam, Jesus (Or Eisha) invented Christianity from an earlier faith JUDAISM Edited July 30, 2013 by mushroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 This is getting f*****g silly now.. I suppose everyone uses Roman numerals to do sums and tell the time eh..? Ps. When you're doing those sums using Arabic numerals, spare a thought for the = sign, it was first used by a Welshman! did you know a welsh sheep farmer discovered quadratic equations well fractional factorials If you're talking about Robert Recorde it's the same guy who invented the = sign and first started using the + sign I. English! He was a physicist and mathematician though, not a sheep farmer! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Recorde he was a sheep farmer Dr Dereck Bissell from one of your universities told me when i was doing advanced statistics and design of experiments Ah well, you learn something new every day! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 This is getting f*****g silly now.. I suppose everyone uses Roman numerals to do sums and tell the time eh..? Ps. When you're doing those sums using Arabic numerals, spare a thought for the = sign, it was first used by a Welshman! did you know a welsh sheep farmer discovered quadratic equations well fractional factorials If you're talking about Robert Recorde it's the same guy who invented the = sign and first started using the + sign I. English! He was a physicist and mathematician though, not a sheep farmer! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Recorde he was a sheep farmer Dr Dereck Bissell from one of your universities told me when i was doing advanced statistics and design of experiments Ah well, you learn something new every day! have you never wondered why counting sheep sends you sleep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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