Guest ragumup Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) This kid says they were payed with sugar and cooking oil and many things like that, to vote for morsi by the mosques, he should know he lives there, plus morsi only got a tiny majority anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeDm2PrNV1I&feature=player_detailpage Edited July 29, 2013 by ragumup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,223 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 This is a Christian country and they are fighting for our freedom and to keep us safe that straight enough for ya your wrong on both counts, how could afagans threaten our freedom are they gonna invade on a load of donkeys ffs gi your sen a shake,and them wmd in iraq just remind me how many did we find Er they muslim feckers managed 911, July bombings etc all it takes is will its the same regurgatated shite every time The 22 conflicts around the world in Muslim countries he omits to state how many have been instigated and financed by USA and Britain , the perfect example is Egypt at the moment the British hatched a conspiracy to remove Hosnai Mubaraak with the collusion of Isreal on the pretext of bringing Democracy, after having elections and The Muslim brotherhood won much to the dismay of Britain Isreal and America Tthe army then imprisoned the President that had been elected in the democraric elections supervised by the Western goverments now the people dieing in the streets for the return of a democratically elected President are the very ones the Americans Jews and British are against is this what western democracy is all about Paulus always ommits the relevant facts. The majority of conflicts around the world have thier beginnings in the interference of America and Britain along with thier Zionist Masters involved. Most of the despot leaders like Mubaraak, Gadaafi, Sadaam, Karzai,the Saudi regime were placed in the positions of power by Britain as were many of the African dictators it was a British backed regime in South Africa that imprisoned Mandellas as a terrorist now he is a freedom fighter. These little snippets are based on facts yet Paulus being an islamaphobe would sooner bang on about issues without the full facts being presented. The Muslim Brotherhood were deemed a terror threat BY the people of Egypt after that effin snake who pulled the wool right over everyons eyes was democratically elected and showed his true colours the people of Egypt decided his fate..... In it's extreme it's a FASCIST, RACIST DOCTRINE no different to medieval christianity, strange how we moved on and evolved away from legends. Nowt wrong with having faith just believing shite and forcing it down others throats Ps Stewie isn't a racist, just plain fugly :laugh: I think you will find it was the army who removed him and now the people are out on the street to have him reinstated and lo and behold the army are killing people and who was it who provoked the situation in the first place the Foriegn secratary william Haque facts not pie in the sky Army responded to the majority feeling of Egypt. wrong again Morsi was elected in a western supervised election by the majority in a poll higher than European countries. the interference of Western Nations in middle Eastern politics is a cul de sac different systems and certainly history has shown it doesnt work The Majority of Egypt may have voted the fecker I don't dispute this and the west were asked to watch over the elections. But they had enough after he showed he was an extremist of the Brotherhood And Egypt is North Africa not Middle East Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,223 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Wasn't that due to rapid aggressive expansion of the Islam faith during the 6/7th centuries hmmm really peaceful. The faith was founded by a merchant/warlord who preached togetherness and belonging alongside pure hatred of everybody who refused to adher. Very strange how that's exactly what these so called extremists preach. In my eyes there are Muslims and then there are Islamists the difference is in how much they have surrended. The people of Egypt I guess want to be Muslim and not live by doctrine from antiquity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 While some 90 percent of Egyptians are Sunni Muslims, the number of Shia in Egypt has been estimated at up to 2.2 million, including “Twelvers” and Ismailis. A Shiite dynasty, the Fatimids, conquered Egypt in 969 and ruled the country for 200 years. The new Muslim Brotherhood President of Egypt, Mohammad Morsi, is reported to have said that the Shia are more dangerous to Islam than the Jews, while former Muslim Brotherhood leader and presidential candidate Abdel Moneim Abul Fotouh warned during the campaign that Shiism must not be allowed to enter Egypt. At its core, the Muslim Brotherhood’s basic ideological doctrine is pan-Islamic and religiously inclusive, seeking to downplay religious differences between Sunnism and Shiism. However, the Brotherhood’s initial enthusiasm for the Iranian revolution soon soured as it was increasingly perceived as a Persian nationalist and distinctly Shiite revolution. This perception became widespread in Sunni Arab societies after Iran attempted to export its revolution to Gulf Arab states, and after it formed an alliance with the Syrian regime, which was engaged in an open clash with the Brotherhood’s Syrian branch. President Morsi, as his predecessors before him, has adopted a confrontational policy toward the Shiite minority and he will not tolerate any affiliation with Iran. - See more at: http://jcpa.org/article/egypts-shiite-minority-between-the-egyptian-hammer-and-the-iranian-anvil/#sthash.FaROQMVp.dpuf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) While some 90 percent of Egyptians are Sunni Muslims, the number of Shia in Egypt has been estimated at up to 2.2 million, including “Twelvers” and Ismailis. A Shiite dynasty, the Fatimids, conquered Egypt in 969 and ruled the country for 200 years. The new Muslim Brotherhood President of Egypt, Mohammad Morsi, is reported to have said that the Shia are more dangerous to Islam than the Jews, while former Muslim Brotherhood leader and presidential candidate Abdel Moneim Abul Fotouh warned during the campaign that Shiism must not be allowed to enter Egypt. At its core, the Muslim Brotherhood’s basic ideological doctrine is pan-Islamic and religiously inclusive, seeking to downplay religious differences between Sunnism and Shiism. However, the Brotherhood’s initial enthusiasm for the Iranian revolution soon soured as it was increasingly perceived as a Persian nationalist and distinctly Shiite revolution. This perception became widespread in Sunni Arab societies after Iran attempted to export its revolution to Gulf Arab states, and after it formed an alliance with the Syrian regime, which was engaged in an open clash with the Brotherhood’s Syrian branch. President Morsi, as his predecessors before him, has adopted a confrontational policy toward the Shiite minority and he will not tolerate any affiliation with Iran. - See more at: http://jcpa.org/article/egypts-shiite-minority-between-the-egyptian-hammer-and-the-iranian-anvil/#sthash.FaROQMVp.dpuf So I certainly cant be accussed of being biased towards Morsi then can I lol, Egypt as with other Islamic countries should be left to solve thier own problems without back door influence from Western alledged Democracies like the Minority Conservative Goverment here in the UK. Also the Author of the article the above quotes are from is a former Colonel of Isreali military intelligence (Mossad )so hardly a unbiased review one would have thought. Edited July 30, 2013 by desertbred 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Wasn't that due to rapid aggressive expansion of the Islam faith during the 6/7th centuries hmmm really peaceful. The faith was founded by a merchant/warlord who preached togetherness and belonging alongside pure hatred of everybody who refused to adher. Very strange how that's exactly what these so called extremists preach. In my eyes there are Muslims and then there are Islamists the difference is in how much they have surrended. The people of Egypt I guess want to be Muslim and not live by doctrine from antiquity. A bit like the peaceful expansion of the British Empire and Commonwealth from the 17th century onwards then and were the Crusaders not Christian extremists ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,481 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 While some 90 percent of Egyptians are Sunni Muslims, the number of Shia in Egypt has been estimated at up to 2.2 million, including “Twelvers” and Ismailis. A Shiite dynasty, the Fatimids, conquered Egypt in 969 and ruled the country for 200 years. The new Muslim Brotherhood President of Egypt, Mohammad Morsi, is reported to have said that the Shia are more dangerous to Islam than the Jews, while former Muslim Brotherhood leader and presidential candidate Abdel Moneim Abul Fotouh warned during the campaign that Shiism must not be allowed to enter Egypt. At its core, the Muslim Brotherhood’s basic ideological doctrine is pan-Islamic and religiously inclusive, seeking to downplay religious differences between Sunnism and Shiism. However, the Brotherhood’s initial enthusiasm for the Iranian revolution soon soured as it was increasingly perceived as a Persian nationalist and distinctly Shiite revolution. This perception became widespread in Sunni Arab societies after Iran attempted to export its revolution to Gulf Arab states, and after it formed an alliance with the Syrian regime, which was engaged in an open clash with the Brotherhood’s Syrian branch. President Morsi, as his predecessors before him, has adopted a confrontational policy toward the Shiite minority and he will not tolerate any affiliation with Iran. - See more at: http://jcpa.org/article/egypts-shiite-minority-between-the-egyptian-hammer-and-the-iranian-anvil/#sthash.FaROQMVp.dpuf So I certainly cant be accussed of being biased towards Morsi then can I lol, Egypt as with other Islamic countries should be left to solve thier own problems without back door influence from Western alledged Democracies like the Minority Conservative Goverment here in the UK I actually agree with that totally, the only people who know how to deal with Arabs is other Arabs.....we should stop poking our nose in unless they represent a clear and direct threat to our own security 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) The one solution they have all failed to try is leaving the Arabs etc alone for a few years, sit back and then make whoever is in charge at the end of the day a fair offer for the oil that we so badly need, I think that would be a little cheaper in the long run and that's counting the payments both ways in money or human deaths. Lets have it right the whole scenario is all about Greed and Oil, certain individuals made a killing early doors in the oil game and now its all turned real nasty and we all have to suffer for it be we Christian catholic muslim jew whatever and enough is enough, its not our given right to plunder other peoples reserves nor is iot the right of the ultra rich to use countries cash reserves to wage war so that they and there pals can benefit, lets face it just like the bankers and governments gambling with tax payers hard earned coin and losing it all and us being made to pay it all back via tax or cuts if your to lazy or unable to work, if the oil people or the bankers nulabour had succeeded in their gambles do any of you think for one minute the man in the street would of seen his cut of the profits??? would we bollocks so why go fight there wars for them, if Bush Blair whoever want the oil so badly let em send their kids to go get it , not yours or mine, lifes hard enough these days without living in fear of shit that's stirred up be greedy selfish people, we should all stop working until they realine there agendas to suit us the ones grafting for the coin the y wasting and worse still its our kids that getting blown to bits , the money we have spent waging war could of been spent searching for alternatives to using oil etc, ffs its all gunna be gone one day, what they gunna fight over next wind lol Edited July 29, 2013 by arcticgun 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 While some 90 percent of Egyptians are Sunni Muslims, the number of Shia in Egypt has been estimated at up to 2.2 million, including “Twelvers” and Ismailis. A Shiite dynasty, the Fatimids, conquered Egypt in 969 and ruled the country for 200 years. The new Muslim Brotherhood President of Egypt, Mohammad Morsi, is reported to have said that the Shia are more dangerous to Islam than the Jews, while former Muslim Brotherhood leader and presidential candidate Abdel Moneim Abul Fotouh warned during the campaign that Shiism must not be allowed to enter Egypt. At its core, the Muslim Brotherhood’s basic ideological doctrine is pan-Islamic and religiously inclusive, seeking to downplay religious differences between Sunnism and Shiism. However, the Brotherhood’s initial enthusiasm for the Iranian revolution soon soured as it was increasingly perceived as a Persian nationalist and distinctly Shiite revolution. This perception became widespread in Sunni Arab societies after Iran attempted to export its revolution to Gulf Arab states, and after it formed an alliance with the Syrian regime, which was engaged in an open clash with the Brotherhood’s Syrian branch. President Morsi, as his predecessors before him, has adopted a confrontational policy toward the Shiite minority and he will not tolerate any affiliation with Iran. - See more at: http://jcpa.org/article/egypts-shiite-minority-between-the-egyptian-hammer-and-the-iranian-anvil/#sthash.FaROQMVp.dpuf So I certainly cant be accussed of being biased towards Morsi then can I lol, Egypt as with other Islamic countries should be left to solve thier own problems without back door influence from Western alledged Democracies like the Minority Conservative Goverment here in the UK. Also the Author of the article the above quotes are from is a former Colonel of Isreali military intelligence (Mossad )so hardly a unbiased review one would have thought. its as unbiased as a shia or sunni view. if every western power left the middle east today, nothing would change at all, What would the middle east have to fall back on if the west didn`t want its oil? how quickly do you think it would take without this income before the whole region imploded completely, you always blame the west for the problems in the middle east, however someone over there is also making a tidy dollar, so the men not only wear suites they also wear night dresses we are all pawns in a game and Islam is just part of that game no different to the EDL do these Muslims remind you of anyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KQnRI4H8EWM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 and what about your religion of peace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,223 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Wasn't that due to rapid aggressive expansion of the Islam faith during the 6/7th centuries hmmm really peaceful. The faith was founded by a merchant/warlord who preached togetherness and belonging alongside pure hatred of everybody who refused to adher. Very strange how that's exactly what these so called extremists preach. In my eyes there are Muslims and then there are Islamists the difference is in how much they have surrended. The people of Egypt I guess want to be Muslim and not live by doctrine from antiquity. A bit like the peaceful expansion of the British Empire and Commonwealth from the 17th century onwards then and were the Crusaders not Christian extremists ? Exactly my point earlier, we've moved on from medieval ideoligy and as for the British Empire/Commonwealth at least we let them get on wih their religions/cultures without interferance or predjudice we just wanted a slice of their pies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Geographically it is North Africa but politically, culturally and traditionally it has more in common with the Middle East than Africa and it is populated predominantly by Arabs which are indigenously Middle Eastern Wasn't that due to rapid aggressive expansion of the Islam faith during the 6/7th centuries hmmm really peaceful. The faith was founded by a merchant/warlord who preached togetherness and belonging alongside pure hatred of everybody who refused to adher. Very strange how that's exactly what these so called extremists preach. In my eyes there are Muslims and then there are Islamists the difference is in how much they have surrended. The people of Egypt I guess want to be Muslim and not live by doctrine from antiquity. A bit like the peaceful expansion of the British Empire and Commonwealth from the 17th century onwards then and were the Crusaders not Christian extremists ? The Crusader were defensive , where as jihad is offensive and is still happing to this day..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 The only people who don't support them , are people who don't live near or have a lot of dealing with the Islamic communities ....... I do all of the above and I don't " support" them......they don't represent me or anything I believe in and as an Englishman I find them a bit embarrassing I watched a short piece done by the BBC recently that was asking who/where was all this recent support for the EDL coming from and that found thousands of ex and serving M.O.D lads , are they embarrassing also........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 The only people who don't support them , are people who don't live near or have a lot of dealing with the Islamic communities ....... I do all of the above and I don't " support" them......they don't represent me or anything I believe in and as an Englishman I find them a bit embarrassing I watched a short piece done by the BBC recently that was asking who/where was all this recent support for the EDL coming from and that found thousands of ex and serving M.O.D lads , are they embarrassing also........ the numbers would really surprise you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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