Who Supports The Edl (Tommy Robbinson) ......?

[paulus 26]

 

 

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i did find this

 

 

The Qur'an and Sharia Law:

Sharia law is derived both from:

The teachings of the Mulsim holy book, the Qur'an, which is believed to be the Word of God, and From Sunna, the practices of the prophet Muhammad.

The term "Sharia" literally means "the path to a watering hole." "Sharia is a religious code for living, in the same way that the Bible offers a moral system for Christians." ₂

There are multiple forms of Sharia laws. For example, the Maliki Law School accepts evidence of pregnancy as proof that an unmarried woman has either committed adultery or been raped. "The other schools, namely Shafii, Hanbali, Hanafi and even the Shia do not recognize evidence of pregnancy as proof of Zina [Adultery]." ₃

"In the 19th century, many Muslim countries came under the control or influence of Western colonial powers. As a result, Western-style laws, courts, and punishments began to appear within the Sharia. Some countries like Turkey totally abandoned the Sharia and adopted new law codes based on European systems...Modern legislation along with Muslim legal scholars who are attempting to relate the will of Allah to the 20th century have reopened the door to interpreting the Sharia. This has happened even in highly traditional Saudi Arabia, where Islam began....Since 1980, some countries with fundamentalist Islamic regimes like Iran have attempted to reverse the trend of westernization and return to the classic Sharia." ₄

Within Sharia law, there are a group of "Hadd" offenses such as pre-marital sexual intercourse, sex by divorced persons, post-marital sex, adultery, false accusation of unlawful intercourse, drinking alcohol, theft, and highway robbery. Hadd sexual offenses carry a sentence of stoning to death or severe flogging. An eyewitness account of Soraya M, a woman executed by stoning, can be read on an anti-Iranian web site. Caution: do not read this if you have a weak stomach; it is quite graphic. ₅

Sharia law has been adopted in various forms by many countries, ranging from a strict interpretation in Saudi Arabia and northern states of Nigeria, to a relatively liberal interpretation in much of Malaysia. ₂

Chapter 24 of Islam's holy book, the Qur'an, explicitly instructs believers to whip those found guilty of adultery. A leading Muslim scholar, Maulana Muhammad Ali noted that "stoning to death was never contemplated by Islam as a punishment for adultery." Roman Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Dr. Anthony Olubunmi Okogie, said that the "official text of the Qur'an only sanctions a punishment of so many lashes for such an offence not stoning to death...[the] punishment of stoning was introduced later by Omar, the second Calif for reasons best known to him." ₆ Many Muslim scholars and judges agree that the Qur'an does not refer to executions by stoning. "...the Islamic legal scholar Tarik Abdul-Rahman states they are part of the Hadith (collections of sayings and acts of the Prophet), and go back to the Pentateuch (first five books of Hebrew Scripture)." ₇ Execution by stoning is thus in harmony with the 613 laws which make up the Mosaic code in the Bible.

Massoud Shadjareh, of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, opposes stoning sentences. He urges other Muslim leaders to speak out against them. Otherwise, he fears that what he calls an inhumane brand of Islamic law will take root in Nigeria. Shadjareh said:

"Shariah has been translated to be harsh, extreme treatment — it isn't." He argues that amputations and stonings are supposed to be used only as a last resort, and only within those Islamic societies that have eliminated poverty and corruption. Neither condition has yet been achieved, either in Nigeria or in other countries where stoning is practiced. ₁₃

Some interesting details associated with Sharia law:

Under the form of Sharia law that is practiced in Sudan, "the stones thrown during the execution should not be so large that the offender dies after a few strikes, nor so small as to fail to cause serious injury." ₇ A conviction normally requires a minimum of four witnesses who directly observed the sexual activity at the same time, or a freely-given confession by the defendant. However, as noted below, the former requirement is not always followed. If the woman is pregnant and either unmarried or divorced, she may be assumed to be guilty, if she is tried under the conservative Maliki Law School form of Sharia. ₈ Under "an obscure tenet of Islamic law,...an embryo can 'sleep' for years before swelling a woman's belly." ₉Thus, it is believed that an interval of up to seven years can pass between conception and birth. This means that a woman who is pregnant and has been divorced for fewer than seven years can theoretically claim that the father of the fetus is her former husband. Problems sometimes arise when an unmarried or divorced woman becomes pregnant as a result of a rape. Some Sharia courts do not recognize DNA testing or the evaluation of possible paternity by other blood tests. The case often results in a "she-said, he said" situation. Sometimes, the alleged rapist is found not-guilty because his involvement cannot be proven. But if an unmarried woman becomes pregnant, she can be assumed to be guilty of extra-marital sexual activity and can be executed. If she claims that she was raped and is unable to prove her case, then she will probably receive severe punishment, because she would be assumed guilty of making a false accusation. Sharia law is only applicable to Muslims. Christians and other non-Muslims are supposed to be exempt from the provisions of the law -- a provision that is ignored in the Sudan.

 

it says under the sharia practised in sudan LOL Sudan circumcices women also but that is also not permitted in Islam Shariat has to be authenticated from the Quran whether sunni or shia shariat is formulated from the Quran not what different people assume is acceptable

 

a few more places than just Sudan according to the Gladstone Institute http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3705/uk-female-genital-mutilation

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

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i did find this

 

 

The Qur'an and Sharia Law:

Sharia law is derived both from:

The teachings of the Mulsim holy book, the Qur'an, which is believed to be the Word of God, and From Sunna, the practices of the prophet Muhammad.

The term "Sharia" literally means "the path to a watering hole." "Sharia is a religious code for living, in the same way that the Bible offers a moral system for Christians." ₂

There are multiple forms of Sharia laws. For example, the Maliki Law School accepts evidence of pregnancy as proof that an unmarried woman has either committed adultery or been raped. "The other schools, namely Shafii, Hanbali, Hanafi and even the Shia do not recognize evidence of pregnancy as proof of Zina [Adultery]." ₃

"In the 19th century, many Muslim countries came under the control or influence of Western colonial powers. As a result, Western-style laws, courts, and punishments began to appear within the Sharia. Some countries like Turkey totally abandoned the Sharia and adopted new law codes based on European systems...Modern legislation along with Muslim legal scholars who are attempting to relate the will of Allah to the 20th century have reopened the door to interpreting the Sharia. This has happened even in highly traditional Saudi Arabia, where Islam began....Since 1980, some countries with fundamentalist Islamic regimes like Iran have attempted to reverse the trend of westernization and return to the classic Sharia." ₄

Within Sharia law, there are a group of "Hadd" offenses such as pre-marital sexual intercourse, sex by divorced persons, post-marital sex, adultery, false accusation of unlawful intercourse, drinking alcohol, theft, and highway robbery. Hadd sexual offenses carry a sentence of stoning to death or severe flogging. An eyewitness account of Soraya M, a woman executed by stoning, can be read on an anti-Iranian web site. Caution: do not read this if you have a weak stomach; it is quite graphic. ₅

Sharia law has been adopted in various forms by many countries, ranging from a strict interpretation in Saudi Arabia and northern states of Nigeria, to a relatively liberal interpretation in much of Malaysia. ₂

Chapter 24 of Islam's holy book, the Qur'an, explicitly instructs believers to whip those found guilty of adultery. A leading Muslim scholar, Maulana Muhammad Ali noted that "stoning to death was never contemplated by Islam as a punishment for adultery." Roman Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Dr. Anthony Olubunmi Okogie, said that the "official text of the Qur'an only sanctions a punishment of so many lashes for such an offence not stoning to death...[the] punishment of stoning was introduced later by Omar, the second Calif for reasons best known to him." ₆ Many Muslim scholars and judges agree that the Qur'an does not refer to executions by stoning. "...the Islamic legal scholar Tarik Abdul-Rahman states they are part of the Hadith (collections of sayings and acts of the Prophet), and go back to the Pentateuch (first five books of Hebrew Scripture)." ₇ Execution by stoning is thus in harmony with the 613 laws which make up the Mosaic code in the Bible.

Massoud Shadjareh, of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, opposes stoning sentences. He urges other Muslim leaders to speak out against them. Otherwise, he fears that what he calls an inhumane brand of Islamic law will take root in Nigeria. Shadjareh said:

"Shariah has been translated to be harsh, extreme treatment — it isn't." He argues that amputations and stonings are supposed to be used only as a last resort, and only within those Islamic societies that have eliminated poverty and corruption. Neither condition has yet been achieved, either in Nigeria or in other countries where stoning is practiced. ₁₃

Some interesting details associated with Sharia law:

Under the form of Sharia law that is practiced in Sudan, "the stones thrown during the execution should not be so large that the offender dies after a few strikes, nor so small as to fail to cause serious injury." ₇ A conviction normally requires a minimum of four witnesses who directly observed the sexual activity at the same time, or a freely-given confession by the defendant. However, as noted below, the former requirement is not always followed. If the woman is pregnant and either unmarried or divorced, she may be assumed to be guilty, if she is tried under the conservative Maliki Law School form of Sharia. ₈ Under "an obscure tenet of Islamic law,...an embryo can 'sleep' for years before swelling a woman's belly." ₉Thus, it is believed that an interval of up to seven years can pass between conception and birth. This means that a woman who is pregnant and has been divorced for fewer than seven years can theoretically claim that the father of the fetus is her former husband. Problems sometimes arise when an unmarried or divorced woman becomes pregnant as a result of a rape. Some Sharia courts do not recognize DNA testing or the evaluation of possible paternity by other blood tests. The case often results in a "she-said, he said" situation. Sometimes, the alleged rapist is found not-guilty because his involvement cannot be proven. But if an unmarried woman becomes pregnant, she can be assumed to be guilty of extra-marital sexual activity and can be executed. If she claims that she was raped and is unable to prove her case, then she will probably receive severe punishment, because she would be assumed guilty of making a false accusation. Sharia law is only applicable to Muslims. Christians and other non-Muslims are supposed to be exempt from the provisions of the law -- a provision that is ignored in the Sudan.

 

it says under the sharia practised in sudan LOL Sudan circumcices women also but that is also not permitted in Islam Shariat has to be authenticated from the Quran whether sunni or shia shariat is formulated from the Quran not what different people assume is acceptable

 

a few more places than just Sudan according to the Gladstone Institute http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3705/uk-female-genital-mutilation

 

it is still not permitted if it is not in the Quran then its not in Shariat all the Hadith are attributed to friends or people who say I heard or was told not the most reliable as you showed with the photo you posted earlier , all people who claim to follow islam dont e.g suicide bombers the Quran forbids suicide so some one like hook hand Abu Hamsa is distorting what islam says . as with most of these radical clerics here in uk they have thier own agenda and certainly make plenty of money out of encouraging youth on the wrong line

Edited July 30, 2013 by desertbred

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Oh for fucks sake some one start a tyson fury thred. !!!!!!

[bob.243 8,668]

 

 

When he's cornered he gets personal.

you will be geting a pm

 

i have already had one today

 

I not got one yet.

[desertbred 5,490]

well looks like the experts have disappeared amazing how much crap they post without any knowledge finished with this topic now.

[scothunter 12,609]

well looks like the experts have disappeared amazing how much crap they post without any knowledge finished with this topic now.

i wish you would f***ing die

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

well looks like the experts have disappeared amazing how much crap they post without any knowledge finished with this topic now.

 

i wish you would f*****g die

What have i told you about sitting on that fence young man !!!

[mushroom 12,880]

well looks like the experts have disappeared amazing how much crap they post without any knowledge finished with this topic now.

Still here just had a problem with th'owd t'internet

 

So yes or no would you support your wife or child being stoned for being raped??

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Hey mush for the spanish lesson. Gone right in my spanish sayings book lol

Edited July 30, 2013 by gonetoearth

[desertbred 5,490]

see my post at 6 minutes past 5 on page 27 I live my life as a Muslim and according to what I believe islam says .

Edited July 30, 2013 by desertbred

[desertbred 5,490]

 

well looks like the experts have disappeared amazing how much crap they post without any knowledge finished with this topic now.

i wish you would f*****g die

 

never at your hands thats for certain

[mushroom 12,880]

see my post at 6 minutes past 5 I live my life as a Muslim and according to what I believe islam says .

:laugh: we all know you would!! Your a wrong 'un

 

 

Hey mush for the spanish lesson. Gone right in my spanish sayings book lol

No worries mate I have loads of them lol from chile to Mexico, Peru To Spain they're all good :laugh:

 

Here's a Mexican pearl "Chinga A tu Puta Madre" Go f**k your whore mother :laugh: ffs do not say this to a Mexican unless you're mates

Edited July 30, 2013 by mushroom

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

 

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i did find this

 

 

The Qur'an and Sharia Law:

Sharia law is derived both from:

The teachings of the Mulsim holy book, the Qur'an, which is believed to be the Word of God, and From Sunna, the practices of the prophet Muhammad.

The term "Sharia" literally means "the path to a watering hole." "Sharia is a religious code for living, in the same way that the Bible offers a moral system for Christians." ₂

There are multiple forms of Sharia laws. For example, the Maliki Law School accepts evidence of pregnancy as proof that an unmarried woman has either committed adultery or been raped. "The other schools, namely Shafii, Hanbali, Hanafi and even the Shia do not recognize evidence of pregnancy as proof of Zina [Adultery]." ₃

"In the 19th century, many Muslim countries came under the control or influence of Western colonial powers. As a result, Western-style laws, courts, and punishments began to appear within the Sharia. Some countries like Turkey totally abandoned the Sharia and adopted new law codes based on European systems...Modern legislation along with Muslim legal scholars who are attempting to relate the will of Allah to the 20th century have reopened the door to interpreting the Sharia. This has happened even in highly traditional Saudi Arabia, where Islam began....Since 1980, some countries with fundamentalist Islamic regimes like Iran have attempted to reverse the trend of westernization and return to the classic Sharia." ₄

Within Sharia law, there are a group of "Hadd" offenses such as pre-marital sexual intercourse, sex by divorced persons, post-marital sex, adultery, false accusation of unlawful intercourse, drinking alcohol, theft, and highway robbery. Hadd sexual offenses carry a sentence of stoning to death or severe flogging. An eyewitness account of Soraya M, a woman executed by stoning, can be read on an anti-Iranian web site. Caution: do not read this if you have a weak stomach; it is quite graphic. ₅

Sharia law has been adopted in various forms by many countries, ranging from a strict interpretation in Saudi Arabia and northern states of Nigeria, to a relatively liberal interpretation in much of Malaysia. ₂

Chapter 24 of Islam's holy book, the Qur'an, explicitly instructs believers to whip those found guilty of adultery. A leading Muslim scholar, Maulana Muhammad Ali noted that "stoning to death was never contemplated by Islam as a punishment for adultery." Roman Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Dr. Anthony Olubunmi Okogie, said that the "official text of the Qur'an only sanctions a punishment of so many lashes for such an offence not stoning to death...[the] punishment of stoning was introduced later by Omar, the second Calif for reasons best known to him." ₆ Many Muslim scholars and judges agree that the Qur'an does not refer to executions by stoning. "...the Islamic legal scholar Tarik Abdul-Rahman states they are part of the Hadith (collections of sayings and acts of the Prophet), and go back to the Pentateuch (first five books of Hebrew Scripture)." ₇ Execution by stoning is thus in harmony with the 613 laws which make up the Mosaic code in the Bible.

Massoud Shadjareh, of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, opposes stoning sentences. He urges other Muslim leaders to speak out against them. Otherwise, he fears that what he calls an inhumane brand of Islamic law will take root in Nigeria. Shadjareh said:

"Shariah has been translated to be harsh, extreme treatment — it isn't." He argues that amputations and stonings are supposed to be used only as a last resort, and only within those Islamic societies that have eliminated poverty and corruption. Neither condition has yet been achieved, either in Nigeria or in other countries where stoning is practiced. ₁₃

Some interesting details associated with Sharia law:

Under the form of Sharia law that is practiced in Sudan, "the stones thrown during the execution should not be so large that the offender dies after a few strikes, nor so small as to fail to cause serious injury." ₇ A conviction normally requires a minimum of four witnesses who directly observed the sexual activity at the same time, or a freely-given confession by the defendant. However, as noted below, the former requirement is not always followed. If the woman is pregnant and either unmarried or divorced, she may be assumed to be guilty, if she is tried under the conservative Maliki Law School form of Sharia. ₈ Under "an obscure tenet of Islamic law,...an embryo can 'sleep' for years before swelling a woman's belly." ₉Thus, it is believed that an interval of up to seven years can pass between conception and birth. This means that a woman who is pregnant and has been divorced for fewer than seven years can theoretically claim that the father of the fetus is her former husband. Problems sometimes arise when an unmarried or divorced woman becomes pregnant as a result of a rape. Some Sharia courts do not recognize DNA testing or the evaluation of possible paternity by other blood tests. The case often results in a "she-said, he said" situation. Sometimes, the alleged rapist is found not-guilty because his involvement cannot be proven. But if an unmarried woman becomes pregnant, she can be assumed to be guilty of extra-marital sexual activity and can be executed. If she claims that she was raped and is unable to prove her case, then she will probably receive severe punishment, because she would be assumed guilty of making a false accusation. Sharia law is only applicable to Muslims. Christians and other non-Muslims are supposed to be exempt from the provisions of the law -- a provision that is ignored in the Sudan.

 

it says under the sharia practised in sudan LOL Sudan circumcices women also but that is also not permitted in Islam Shariat has to be authenticated from the Quran whether sunni or shia shariat is formulated from the Quran not what different people assume is acceptable

 

a few more places than just Sudan according to the Gladstone Institute http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3705/uk-female-genital-mutilation

 

it is still not permitted if it is not in the Quran then its not in Shariat all the Hadith are attributed to friends or people who say I heard or was told not the most reliable as you showed with the photo you posted earlier , all people who claim to follow islam dont e.g suicide bombers the Quran forbids suicide so some one like hook hand Abu Hamsa is distorting what islam says . as with most of these radical clerics here in uk they have thier own agenda and certainly make plenty of money out of encouraging youth on the wrong line

 

well theres a hell of a lot of distortion going on in the Muslim world then so if i may be so bold as to say. When you have sorted your own shite out across the globe and Islam becomes the religion of peace that you say it is. then maybe your arguments will be valid, I have said on many occasions now, the problems with radicalisation of Muslims in Great Britain is a Muslin problem. My problem is the so called good Muslims are not tackling it hence the escalation and the murder of Lee Rigby. So in a nutshell then, your opposed to radical Islam and agree that Sharia law is not 100% understood or implemented properly and used for personal gain, Do you want to join the EDL

[iworkwhippets 12,521]

 

well looks like the experts have disappeared amazing how much crap they post without any knowledge finished with this topic now.

i wish you would f*****g die

 

 

Bit extreme that is pal

[mushroom 12,880]

 

 

well looks like the experts have disappeared amazing how much crap they post without any knowledge finished with this topic now.

i wish you would f*****g die

 

 

Bit extreme that is pal

 

It's Scothunter he has straightforwardpalsy and Ifuckinsayithowitislexia do be discriminatory