Who Supports The Edl (Tommy Robbinson) ......?

[Waz 4,252]

 

 

The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ?

 

Apparently! according to you?

 

fact check it out

 

Dont understand why you put apparently and question mark then.

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mushroom Abraham was a common ancestor of both Muslims and Jews One son Isaac went the jewish line and the other Son I shmail went the islamic line The Prophethood of Muhammad completed Islam not started it so your wrong again

Please tell me what the fec this statement has to do with our debate

 

And to correct you again no particular line went into Islam or Christianity. Basically two nutters developed Judaism into Islam and Christianity the only point that stands you is that these nutters prefered the teachings and stories of either Ishmail or Issac. No different now to sunnis and shias one follows one decendent of Mohamed the other chooses to follow his cousin it's barking mad.

 

It's like me saying Cirus the great was a prophet of his time coz he kicked a few arses about and made people believe in his pagan gods.

 

You are commenting on a subject you obviously have no knowledge of or have misinformed sources Islam and Judaism have the same root you talked about before islam was invented, the word islam means total submission or surrender to Allah and as this was the beginning of creation then only one line can be followed unless you are Athiest

 

No single mention of Islam before mohammed invented it and like I said don't avoid it tell me what this has to do with what we were discussing. And no Islam and Christianity do not have the same root as Judaism, Judaism was the root and then power trippy guys come along with an elaborated message branching it out.

 

give it up you havent got a clue what you are rambling on about

 

 

Don't be a defeatist you know I'm correct. Mohamed invented the idea of Islam, Jesus (Or Eisha) invented Christianity from an earlier faith JUDAISM

 

why because you say so ? but facts and records show different you cant teach me islamic Fiqh T have studied it you have not

 

I've actually studied religion in-depth several religions infanct and found I lean towards the Buddha. there is not much about the evolution of the 3 major monos that you can tell me And I'm telling you that I can take a story play around with it a bit and create an entire religion just the same as Hammed and Jesus did. Out of these two one was a power hungry warlord bent of banging his 7 year old wife and shagging female prisoners (or letting his men) and the other was the worlds first hippy guess which one Hammed was and NONE follow a direct teaching from either Ishmail or Issac and what the fuuck this had to do with the original debate we were having I'm still none the bloody wiser.

 

nice see you have descended to your usual dia tribe of gutter abuse you are not capable of discussion so leave it at that your study must have been the Beano and Dandy

[neems 2,406]

 

 

The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ?

 

To appease the brainwashed retards who believe that this 1500 year old paedophile spoke to god.

You are the retard it is your highest court of law probably dating back to the Magna Carta

In all honesty the spread and longevity of his cult are proof in some ways he was a great man.

 

Hopefully the next world super power won't spare you like we have.

[paulus 26]

I can't work out what the EDL are for or against!! 37,000 members who care's!! they get more than that in Gold Trafford every week, if your going to be against something be clear what it is and why!! religion based on handed down fiction!! EDL based on the dail mail and the sun!!

 

ATB

i do wish people would read the whole of the fooking thread

 

the EDL is opposed to radical Islam and sharia law in this country, nothing more nothing less, the fact of what happened to Drummer Lee Rigby on a London street in broad daylight, proves the issue of extremism within the British Muslim community is a very real threat. After his heinous murder the EDL`s membership swelled from 30.000 to over 150,000. both right wing and left wing groups have a place in politics as without them there would be no middle ground, The racist rhetoric is always spouted when the EDL is mentioned, yet there is no evidence that suggest that the EDL is any more or less racist than the police, politicians or the girl guides. You need to remember that the EDL was only started in the wake of the Muslims protesting and calling our brave troops baby killers etc during there home coming parade in Luton

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ?

 

Apparently! according to you?

 

fact check it out

 

Dont understand why you put apparently and question mark then.

 

because unfortunately I havent seen it myself

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ?

To appease the brainwashed retards who believe that this 1500 year old paedophile spoke to god.

You are the retard it is your highest court of law probably dating back to the Magna Carta

In all honesty the spread and longevity of his cult are proof in some ways he was a great man.

 

Hopefully the next world super power won't spare you like we have.

 

I believe in only one super power the world powers come and go like the wind and rain

[WILF 46,687]

 

 

 

 

The only people who don't support them , are people who don't live near or have a lot of dealing with the Islamic communities .......

I do all of the above and I don't " support" them......they don't represent me or anything I believe in and as an Englishman I find them a bit embarrassing

 

I watched a short piece done by the BBC recently that was asking who/where was all this recent support for the EDL coming from and that found thousands of ex and serving M.O.D lads , are they embarrassing also........

 

 

When I represent myself as an Englishman I want to portray the best of my country & its traditions to outsiders not the worst so that is why they dont represent me and I find them embarrasing

 

We are a country with a rich heritage, the nation of shopkeepers, naval heros, the empire and the monarchy, inventors and warrior kings, art and litrature..........I dont see how a bunch of beer swilling thugs, a good proportion of who cant string a sentence together, is a representation of that and I would rather they were not the face of my British heritage because if they are then it certainly is not worth preserving

 

 

Why?

 

You/we are what we/you are, brushing things under the carpet is false. The beer swilling thugs are a significant percentage of society (whether you like or dont like) & have been since beer was invented (from the middle east maybe! LOL).

 

The beer swilling thugs at the moment are the only ones out on the pavement making noises, a few years down the line from now British history will look at them a lot differently thank how the media are being told to portray them

 

 

I will give you an example matey, I was on the train a while ago and at Barking a load of Africans got on....some of them obviously were at collage, some were chatting quietly and were well spoken, all smartly dressed........couple of stops on, 4 white people get on, 2 of them spotty chavs who look like they aint had a bath for 3 weeks and stink of weed, baseball caps 4 sizes too small and dressed like "Man at Oxfam", with them were their fat birds dressed in ski bottoms and dirty t-shirts pushing the obligatory pram, poor kids dressed like refugees & crying........again, the mums looked like a good wash wouldnt go amiss and they start shouting and swearing at each other, the kids etc

 

I felt bloody ashamed to be british, I wanted to stand up and say to all the black folks "listen, we are not all like that"......theres more positive ways of trying to turn back the tide, more positive examples of why our culture is worth fighting for and the EDL certainly are not it for me

[Waz 4,252]

 

 

 

 

The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ?

 

Apparently! according to you?

 

fact check it out

 

Dont understand why you put apparently and question mark then.

 

because unfortunately I havent seen it myself

 

Not purposely picking holes in you, but you are telling me apparently, & then fact - check it out, and now its back to apparently. LOL

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

 

The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ?

 

Apparently! according to you?

 

fact check it out

 

Dont understand why you put apparently and question mark then.

 

because unfortunately I havent seen it myself

 

it depicts 18 law givers and Muhammad is between Charlemagne and Justinian.

 

In 1997, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, protested the Supreme Court’s Muhammad sculpture, saying, according to its annual report for that year, “While appreciating the fact that Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) was included in the court’s pantheon of 18 prominent lawgivers of history, CAIR noted that Islam discouraged its followers from portraying any prophet in paintings, sculptures or other artistic representations.”

CAIR also said it was concerned that Muhammad “was shown with the Quran, Islam’s Holy Book, in one hand and a sword in the other, reinforcing long-held stereotypes of Muslims as intolerant conquerors.”

Responding to the complaint, then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist told CAIR the image could not be changed and explained that swords also were used throughout the court’s architecture as symbols of justice.

“Altering the depiction of Muhammad would impair the artistic integrity of the whole,” Rehnquist wrote. “Additionally, it is unlawful (under the U. S. Code) to remove or in any way injure an architectural feature in the Supreme Court.”

But the federal government revised tourist literature at the court to show more respect for Islamic beliefs. Text that called Muhammad the “founder” of Islam was changed to say Muslims believe ”the divine word of God … was revealed to Muhammad.”

The literature also added, “The figure is a well-intentioned attempt by the sculptor to honor Muhammad, and it bears no resemblance to Muhammad. Muslims generally have a strong aversion to sculptured or pictured representations of their Prophet.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2006/02/34686/#wyzoAfi8BWvA8diV.99

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

 

 

 

The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ?

 

Apparently! according to you?

 

fact check it out

 

Dont understand why you put apparently and question mark then.

 

because unfortunately I havent seen it myself

 

Not purposely picking holes in you, but you are telling me apparently, & then fact - check it out, and now its back to apparently. LOL

 

are you not capable to verify it sure some one can do it for you

[bob.243 8,668]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why is it Racists are threatened by things that any rational , educated soul could undesrstand and deal with? and when it comes to colour predjudice ginger and blond hair green , blue eyes white skin red lips ffs exactly who is coloured.

'Racism' is natural,it exists in everyone that isn't totally brainwashed,though only whites are treated like sub-humans for displaying it.

Communists invented the word to suppress nationalists.

And any non white is coloured,we use that word to separate ourselves from the lesser races.

lesser races? You will find the Middle and Far East were civilised and educated before the West

Whites have higher IQs and are the most creatively intelligent people on the planet,evident in the fact we invented almost every man made thing you'll come across in any developed country.

 

+1

 

higher IQ.s who says so you LOL

 

Are they still cutting children's hands of in Iran for stealing?

 

Are they, oh and stoning women to death?

[Born Hunter 17,751]

 

I will give you an example matey, I was on the train a while ago and at Barking a load of Africans got on....some of them obviously were at collage, some were chatting quietly and were well spoken, all smartly dressed........couple of stops on, 4 white people get on, 2 of them spotty chavs who look like they aint had a bath for 3 weeks and stink of weed, baseball caps 4 sizes too small and dressed like "Man at Oxfam", with them were their fat birds dressed in ski bottoms and dirty t-shirts pushing the obligatory pram, poor kids dressed like refugees & crying........again, the mums looked like a good wash wouldnt go amiss and they start shouting and swearing at each other, the kids etc

 

I felt bloody ashamed to be british, I wanted to stand up and say to all the black folks "listen, we are not all like that"......theres more positive ways of trying to turn back the tide, more positive examples of why our culture is worth fighting for and the EDL certainly are not it for me

 

 

I might not always share your views Wilf but your moral values and attitude shines through and to me shows that politically, culturally and socially we can all differ but to share that common set of values is what should bind us.

[Waz 4,252]

 

 

 

 

 

The only people who don't support them , are people who don't live near or have a lot of dealing with the Islamic communities .......

I do all of the above and I don't " support" them......they don't represent me or anything I believe in and as an Englishman I find them a bit embarrassing

 

I watched a short piece done by the BBC recently that was asking who/where was all this recent support for the EDL coming from and that found thousands of ex and serving M.O.D lads , are they embarrassing also........

 

 

When I represent myself as an Englishman I want to portray the best of my country & its traditions to outsiders not the worst so that is why they dont represent me and I find them embarrasing

 

We are a country with a rich heritage, the nation of shopkeepers, naval heros, the empire and the monarchy, inventors and warrior kings, art and litrature..........I dont see how a bunch of beer swilling thugs, a good proportion of who cant string a sentence together, is a representation of that and I would rather they were not the face of my British heritage because if they are then it certainly is not worth preserving

 

 

Why?

 

You/we are what we/you are, brushing things under the carpet is false. The beer swilling thugs are a significant percentage of society (whether you like or dont like) & have been since beer was invented (from the middle east maybe! LOL).

 

The beer swilling thugs at the moment are the only ones out on the pavement making noises, a few years down the line from now British history will look at them a lot differently thank how the media are being told to portray them

 

 

I will give you an example matey, I was on the train a while ago and at Barking a load of Africans got on....some of them obviously were at collage, some were chatting quietly and were well spoken, all smartly dressed........couple of stops on, 4 white people get on, 2 of them spotty chavs who look like they aint had a bath for 3 weeks and stink of weed, baseball caps 4 sizes too small and dressed like "Man at Oxfam", with them were their fat birds dressed in ski bottoms and dirty t-shirts pushing the obligatory pram, poor kids dressed like refugees & crying........again, the mums looked like a good wash wouldnt go amiss and they start shouting and swearing at each other, the kids etc

 

I felt bloody ashamed to be british, I wanted to stand up and say to all the black folks "listen, we are not all like that"......theres more positive ways of trying to turn back the tide, more positive examples of why our culture is worth fighting for and the EDL certainly are not it for me

 

 

There is rough and smooth in all races and creeds. You represent yourself, shouldnt need to apologies and when you say 'we' in regards to your nationality well some of 'we' are actually like that.

 

The last house I lived in in England was outside a decent size town (inside the m25) gated community one way with very exclusive/expensive school, very rough estate the other way, and our house was built on a former caravan site of which a few were still there as they owned their own land. Plus the muslim ghetto a stones throw away. Probably extremes of wealth and class as you can get.

 

Nothing you say or do will change that. But all that said, just cause I dont understand dont make me right or wrong. The only thing we can do is bring up our own in the manner we see correctly, which im sure you do.

Edited July 30, 2013 by GD Waz

[neems 2,406]

 

 

 

 

The Old Bailey and the Supreme court in the USA have a list engraved in stone of the 10 Greatest law givers the world has ever known , apparantly the first name on this List is Mohammad why is this ?

 

To appease the brainwashed retards who believe that this 1500 year old paedophile spoke to god.

You are the retard it is your highest court of law probably dating back to the Magna Carta

In all honesty the spread and longevity of his cult are proof in some ways he was a great man.

Hopefully the next world super power won't spare you like we have.

I believe in only one super power the world powers come and go like the wind and rain

The Roman Empire came and went like the rain?

 

In total it lasted as long as your religion has so far.

[mushroom 12,880]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mushroom Abraham was a common ancestor of both Muslims and Jews One son Isaac went the jewish line and the other Son I shmail went the islamic line The Prophethood of Muhammad completed Islam not started it so your wrong again

Please tell me what the fec this statement has to do with our debate

 

And to correct you again no particular line went into Islam or Christianity. Basically two nutters developed Judaism into Islam and Christianity the only point that stands you is that these nutters prefered the teachings and stories of either Ishmail or Issac. No different now to sunnis and shias one follows one decendent of Mohamed the other chooses to follow his cousin it's barking mad.

 

It's like me saying Cirus the great was a prophet of his time coz he kicked a few arses about and made people believe in his pagan gods.

 

You are commenting on a subject you obviously have no knowledge of or have misinformed sources Islam and Judaism have the same root you talked about before islam was invented, the word islam means total submission or surrender to Allah and as this was the beginning of creation then only one line can be followed unless you are Athiest

 

No single mention of Islam before mohammed invented it and like I said don't avoid it tell me what this has to do with what we were discussing. And no Islam and Christianity do not have the same root as Judaism, Judaism was the root and then power trippy guys come along with an elaborated message branching it out.

 

give it up you havent got a clue what you are rambling on about

 

 

Don't be a defeatist you know I'm correct. Mohamed invented the idea of Islam, Jesus (Or Eisha) invented Christianity from an earlier faith JUDAISM

 

why because you say so ? but facts and records show different you cant teach me islamic Fiqh T have studied it you have not

 

I've actually studied religion in-depth several religions infanct and found I lean towards the Buddha. there is not much about the evolution of the 3 major monos that you can tell me And I'm telling you that I can take a story play around with it a bit and create an entire religion just the same as Hammed and Jesus did. Out of these two one was a power hungry warlord bent of banging his 7 year old wife and shagging female prisoners (or letting his men) and the other was the worlds first hippy guess which one Hammed was and NONE follow a direct teaching from either Ishmail or Issac and what the fuuck this had to do with the original debate we were having I'm still none the bloody wiser.

 

nice see you have descended to your usual dia tribe of gutter abuse you are not capable of discussion so leave it at that your study must have been the Beano and Dandy

 

Why avoid answering?? because you know what I say is correct? Not sure where the gutter abuse is in my last post care to enlighten me please.