Andy_c 210 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I know skot I was pulling your leg another way I used before I had a laser was to measure out your zero from a firing line once measured place say 25 yards put down target zero'd here. i used a online meters to yard calculator for ease then I got a roll of sting and measured up to 50 yards and I marked it at 5 yrd intervals with tape kept it taught then got some wooden BBQ skewers and skuck them in the ground at the 5 yrd intervals and stuck electrical tape so the looked like flags sounds a long process took about 20 mins then you know it's zero'd from barrel ? Any help? Using a firing line you know where to keep the barrel! Don't forget the tape measure!! I was going to set up my own range using tent pegs,, and have a wooden L-shape moveable target holder to use, or get 2 banksticks with string across them like a washing line and peg on some card targets.. making sure it was safe behind them of course. Get measuring ! Quote Link to post
goz1960 52 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I pick up my range-finder, read the figure. Then with what ever that distance demands, cock the gun and pull trigger. As Alexander says "SIMPLES". Same as, seems all a bit OTT to me. Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 If you set your gun up it should be from scope to target. That's what I got taught many years ago, whether its right or not I don't know. Best to ask Si, Davey,or one of the others knowledgeable people Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Skot? Were you potty trained at gun point or is this an early/late April fools joke? 1 Quote Link to post
mhopton 807 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Do you not think your been a bit over the top!! Shooting paper at 20yrds maybe But out in the field you don't have time for messing about with daft range finders just trust your gun more and your own ability to judge wind and distance ' To me it's a lot of time wasted tbo I just site in a field for 10 mins shoot at different fence posts to get the feel for it But that's just me atb mark Quote Link to post
kruby01 114 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 I think it's being turned into a physics lesson more than a hobby. I understand you need to be comfortable with your gun but if you spot a target and have to spend twenty minutes preparing for the shot you will just miss the chance. I don't even use a rangefinder I just know how my gun behaves at different ranges and then judge by eye. Never had a problem and to me it keeps it as a hobby not a chore. IMO 1 Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Hi Skot. You seem to be tying yourself into a knot here mate. Try this. Measure the distance with a tape from your scope front lens to the target face. Focus it sharp in the scope sight-picture and mark it on the range-focusing ring of the scope with a thin line of enamel paint. Your scope is now set and marked to an accurate range-finding measure. In the military we shoot by measured rangefinding from the scope as barrels differ in length. The scope is a constant length fixture that does the magnifying. Edited to add: You need to learn to range-find by instinct and you can learn by measuring distances and seeing and memorising what details look like in focus. Your quarry will not hang about while you try to figure out by rote, how far or near he is! Best wishes for your shooting with the new baby. Simon Edited July 27, 2013 by pianoman 2 Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 OSS when setting up.i use the scope as a measure point works for me but as others have said,just range it and pull the bloody trigger if you calibrate your rifle to your range finder,then you cant go wrong,it only gets difficult if your quarry comes out at 47 yards as to 45 yards,which your aim point will be on your scope cap,all you need to do is adjust accordingly,and the Hawke SR pro scope is fantastic for it,example! as seen on VHTV the crow on top of the mast was 47 yards,i have no aim point on my scope cap for that range,but have for 45 yards "so adjust accordingly" by putting the aim point slightly high ching ching! down it comes and a quater a mildot makes a hell of a difference in .22 cal,and for that reason is why the SR pro is so accurate with the HW97 SFS ST2 tune and to be honest skott some of the pics you have been sending me of late via text,have been spot on,shot placement now get back in that cupboard 3 Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 lol...jesting aside, take the distance from your head mate your eyes are in it and its the distance you've known since you could see. Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Everyone as their own method of doing things. None ive read are wrong. One thing I will say is from the age of 13 unitill 36 I didnt use a laser range finder and I shot my fair share of quarry just with my eyes and mind guessing the range to the target in .22. Once I purchased a LRF my shot to kill ratio almost doubled and my range to target also stretched over time. For almost 5 years now ive hunted with a LRF in .177, .22 and when filming for the charity dvd we did in .25 caliber too and I have to say its a tool I really like to use. I dont agree with people saying you dont get time to laze the target, you get plenty of time if your approach and field craft is correct. Im not sure what some people do when they shoot but it puts images in my mind of them using a precision air rifle like a shot gun and taking shots almost without a precise aim. If you dont have time to laze and aim properly then wait till you do, its simple. Fair enough for HFT and for people who dont own a laser guessing well is a good skill to have but having a precisely calibrated scope works better with a much preciser range to a target. For me Skot I calibrate from my laser held to my eye. For a proper answer measurements come from the elevation turret but that accuracy won't be seen or measured by anyones shooting skill as its so small a difference. Edited July 27, 2013 by zini 1 Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Everyone as their own method of doing things. None ive read are wrong. One thing I will say is from the age of 13 unitill 36 I didnt use a laser range finder and I shot my fair share of quarry just with my eyes and mind guessing the range to the target in .22.for the last 10 years I never knew what a lrf was, and I shot my fair share of vermin/pests Once I purchased a LRF my shot to kill ratio almost doubled and my range to target also stretched over time. For almost 5 years now ive hunted with a LRF in .177, .22 and when filming for the charity dvd we did in .25 caliber too and I have to say its a tool I really like to use. I dont agree with people saying you dont get time to laze the target, you get plenty of time if your approach and field craft is correct. I feel the same, if you have to rush a shot that your not confident of, why risk it.. that rabbit or whatever it is will be stil there next time Im not sure what some people do when they shoot but it puts images in my mind of them using a precision air rifle like a shot gun and taking shots almost without a precise aim. If you dont have time to laze and aim properly then wait till you do, its simple. Fair enough for HFT and for people who dont own a laser guessing well is a good skill to have but having a precisely calibrated scope works better with a much preciser range to a target. For me Skot I calibrate from my laser held to my eye. For a proper answer measurements come from the elevation turret but that accuracy won't be seen or measured by anyones shooting skill as its so small a difference. ............. Anyway, by some of the replies I have got to this thread its as if im a total noob who has never shot an air rifle or hunted before.. yeah I like to think deep into stuff sometimes, I wouldn't have even typed this whole thread up in the first place if I didn't have half an hour to kill before I had to go to work! my reason for this thread was to see how other people did it. so when I set up my mini target range thing I will do it from the back of the scope rather than the muzzle. makes the most sense although it is really insignificant being just 1 yard out in the grand scheme of things. I can shoot and guess ranges pretty well, I managed for a good 7 years with a .22 air rifle and no rangefinder and I didn't miss that much. after using one tho I think I do get slightly better results, higher kill to shot ratio. as Si has said if you approach the target properly half the time they don't even know your there so you can laze them and get comfy. I do appreciate sometimes theres a crow that's ready to fly, or a squirrel that's ready to run into a hole or behind a trunk. you have to instinctively make a split second decision whether or not to take a shot, me personally I wouldn't 'risk it' if it was further than 25 yards. I would much rather shoot that animal next time, than see if wounded and knowing it will die in pain. and now I sound gay aswell. sorry about the defensive rant, super gay, animal rights activist SKoT the bunny luvver post. good day chaps 7 Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 didn't know you was gay skott 4 Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 So are you sorted now Skot Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted July 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 didn't know you was gay skott that's a shame mate, I can clearly tell that you are :laugh: Quote Link to post
risingfriend 1,042 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 didn't know you was gay skott that's a shame mate, I can clearly tell that you are :laugh: Skot your only gay if ya push back mate 1 Quote Link to post
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