potpoacher 27 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I have recently been spying on a spot of land where I have ferreted for rats before and seen that there is a growing population of rabbits now. I would like to longnet them but the problem is this: there are 2 warrens close to each other and the rabbits feed in between them, so I couldn't run a net between the rabbits and one of the warrens because they would just bolt to the other. just before anybody tells me I should be sending the rabbits to the net from the other side of where they are feeding this would be impossible as the other problem is, I would scare them setting up as they feed so close to the warrens. so what should I do? a drop net would be out of the question as it would block access and would get nicked in 5 seconds. I could ferret the warrens but it could be dangerous as 1 is in an old rubble pile which is fairly dodgy and the other is an old mud pile riddled with holes that is too dodgy to dig as the whole thing would probably collapse. I hope this makes sense and will value any suggestions. ps. please tell me if I am just being thick again!!! Quote Link to post
smithie 2,443 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 how about waiting until later in the night as they might go out thurther to feed 1 Quote Link to post
The one 8,474 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I would stick the net between them and ferret both as you said the rabbits are running between them and netting the rubble could be dodgy 1 Quote Link to post
smithie 2,443 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I would stick the net between them and ferret both as you said the rabbits are running between them and netting the rubble could be dodgy that would make sense but he dont want to ferrret he wrote "1 is in an old rubble pile which is fairly dodgy and the other is an old mud pile riddled with holes that is too dodgy to dig as the whole thing would probably collapse" Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 As Smithy stated you could wait tull the rabbit are feeding further afield. If you are watching the rabbits during the day it is no real indecation of how far they are travelling at night. As a gerenral rule rabbits tend to travel out into the prevailing wind, that said if they have a good bit of feeding near-by you can forget about travelling into the wind they will head for that. Do some homework, have a look at the runs coming from the warrens and see where they travel too. Rabbits will sometimes travel quite long distances if there is the right food there for them. If the warrens are that close together, it is a fair bet that they share the same food source and travel to the same feeding grounds. TC 1 Quote Link to post
terryd 8,402 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Have a flick around any surrounding fields late at night with a lamp will give a good idea of whats going on and any possible ambush routes for the net maybe Quote Link to post
Mr Wilkes 2,984 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 IMO I would team up with a like minded chap and approach in between the warrens and one of you peg/net to the right and the other to the left..you never know in this game it just might work. 1 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) IMO I would team up with a like minded chap and approach in between the warrens and one of you peg/net to the right and the other to the left..you never know in this game it just might work. You've hit the nail right on the head, we can theorise all we want, but none of us really know if any tactic is going to work untill you try it. There are some situations where long netting just does not work, then there are the ones where it should not work, but does? I think that the fact it can be so unpredictable, is what really makes it so appealing. There are very few "rules" when it comes to long netting and sometimes those "rules" go by the board. I think it's fair to say "If it works, don't knock it." TC Edited July 24, 2013 by tiercel 2 Quote Link to post
lllluke1 329 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 IMO I would team up with a like minded chap and approach in between the warrens and one of you peg/net to the right and the other to the left..you never know in this game it just might work. You've hit the nail right on the head, we can theorise all we want, but none of us really know if any tactic is going to work untill you try it. There are some situations where long netting just does not work, then there are the ones where it should not work, but does? I think that the fact it can be so unpredictable, is what really makes it so appealing. There are very few "rules" when it comes to long netting and sometimes those "rules" go by the board. I think it's fair to say "If it works, don't knock it." TC Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) After being a long netter for over 25 years, I have had my fair share of disatsters and will probably still have more to come. I have found there are just two "rules" that have to be adhered too. Rule one. There have to be rabbits that will travel where you set the net. Rule two. You have to be able set a net without getting seen, scented or heard by the rabbits. All the rest is personal preferance, it does not matter what type of net you use, how you set the net, how high it is, what angle it is set at, follow the two basic rules and you will catch rabbits. TC Edited July 25, 2013 by tiercel 3 Quote Link to post
3175darren 1,100 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I know this is slightly away from the nets,but wait till early hours of the morning good wind right direction,sneak in and shove bags down each hole blocking them,walk out and wide then push them back,get the blockage a good arms length where possible,and draw the rabbits one at a time by hand,I would always prefer to use a net, but just sometimes you have to improvise,I have done this when the net has been too short to cover properly,and it works,if you use hessian sacks there's no noise, Quote Link to post
The one 8,474 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I know this is slightly away from the nets,but wait till early hours of the morning good wind right direction,sneak in and shove bags down each hole blocking them,walk out and wide then push them back,get the blockage a good arms length where possible,and draw the rabbits one at a time by hand,I would always prefer to use a net, but just sometimes you have to improvise,I have done this when the net has been too short to cover properly,and it works,if you use hessian sacks there's no noise, As said the first ones a rubble pile probably no evidednt holes they could be going threw the bricks second ones riddled with holes take too much time and mucking about to fill all those hole , I would still ferret it but maybe wait till the frost's come and hope the rabbits bolt . But in a rubble pile unless there huge lumps of concrete its easy enough lifting bricks of and getting the ferret back , the second one's no problem as the last place we did as you where walking over the burrow's trying to locate your ferret you where collapsing threw it .Its all about having confidence in your self are you capable of doing the job hell yes so just get on and do Quote Link to post
potpoacher 27 Posted July 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 thanks for the tips and ideas chaps. nothing helps more than experience, your own and other peoples. I did have a closer look yesterday eve and found another load of holes across the field well hidden in the hedge as well as more down the bank in the side of the road. I then went out later and lamped the field, around the warrens and along the hedges. the rabbits seem to hang close to home as there is a lot of food there. I will observe them at different points and in different weather until the start of the season so I have a good idea of what they are up to. also can I ferret on common land? I thought I could within the months of September to April, but whilst doing so I was told I was not allowed to. appreciate all the help and suggestion. Quote Link to post
potpoacher 27 Posted July 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I know this is slightly away from the nets,but wait till early hours of the morning good wind right direction,sneak in and shove bags down each hole blocking them,walk out and wide then push them back,get the blockage a good arms length where possible,and draw the rabbits one at a time by hand,I would always prefer to use a net, but just sometimes you have to improvise,I have done this when the net has been too short to cover properly,and it works,if you use hessian sacks there's no noise, could you use purse nets instead of hessian sacks? Quote Link to post
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