topshot26 30 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 What are your thoughts I have heard .22shoots smoother than .177 HELP!!!! Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Same cal as all PCP's should be .22 1 Quote Link to post
A1WOC 212 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I asked a similar question a few months ago when I proposed to buy my first spring power air rifle; the answers mostly favoured .22 for smooth action with less recoil. Upon the advice offered I bought a .22 Air Arms TX200HC, it performed beautifully and I was very happy with the purchase. Shortly after I bought a .177 HW97KT and had it professionally tuned and the end result was smoother than the .22 Air Arms. Since then I have changed the AA TX200HC .22 barrel for a .177 and fettled the action to smooth it out further and that too is now as smooth as the original .22 before the alteration and self tune. Out of the box an Air Arms TX200 is probably as smooth as you can buy without spending lots more money on after sale tuning. Regards, Steve 1 Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) standard untuned rifles in general - .22 is smoother recoil and easier to cock.. but if your getting a SFS tuned hw98 I'm pretty sure it won't make a difference what calibre it is it will shoot amazing and silky smooth! Edited July 17, 2013 by Skot Ruthless Teale 2 Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Generally in spring rifles, a .177 will feel a little sharper and snappier than a .22 as the spring for .177 is a bit shorter and thus has less to travel to complete its cycle, even though we are talking milliseconds of time-difference. As the lads have said, a tune and upgrades of spring, polishing and honing of quality internal parts will produce a much smoother, sweeter firing cycle for a .177 rifle over the factory-set standard parts. I'd say it has become a norm to tune and fettle a Weihrauch spring rifle nowadays.. I have a .22 HW77 that my friend AndyFR1968 has tuned using the original Weihrauch spring and internals and it is the most sweetly beautiful rifle to shoot. He also tuned my .177 HW97K with a Tony Wall kit and it is one of the most accurate air rifles I've ever owned. Easily matches my .177 TX200HC and that's an astonishing air rifle! Edited July 18, 2013 by pianoman 3 Quote Link to post
topshot26 30 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Cheers lads for the info look to be a SFS98.177 1 Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 .177 is roughly 10% less efficient than .22 at converting the energy from the compressed air into kinetic energy in the pellet so it does need a bit more wallop to get the same power in like for like kit so yes, there is a little more recoil. In the real world however, even with identical gear shot one after the other you'd be hard pushed to tell the difference especially if (as has been said) the rifle's been set up properly. Your choice of an SFS98 is a very good one, whichever caliber you choose. 3 Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Ive got many top class tuned springers Brendan but my HW98 is my best. I didnt think I would ever choose any springer over my .22 HW97KT but this gem is diamond in the rough. You and Joe sat with me last Sat evening and watched it shoot them 100 meter cans 7 times on the trot (shame I didnt do it in the comp) and then shoot my best group ever in my life. 7 shots at 53 meters in 1 hole the diameter of 1 and a half .177 pellets. I dont think Joe believed what he was seeing through his scope. 4 Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 .177 is roughly 10% less efficient than .22 at converting the energy from the compressed air into kinetic energy in the pellet so it does need a bit more wallop to get the same power in like for like kit so yes, there is a little more recoil. In the real world however, even with identical gear shot one after the other you'd be hard pushed to tell the difference especially if (as has been said) the rifle's been set up properly. Your choice of an SFS98 is a very good one, whichever caliber you choose. That means that if shooting .22 to gain the equal score, you have to be at least 90% the better Marksman if shooting .22 2 Quote Link to post
topshot26 30 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 hahaha yes cheers lads its going to be a sfs stage 1 tuned hw98 .177 1 Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 If your going down that route Brendan ask Tony Wall to fit the Webley Vulcan spring for you mate and tune it to 9.5 FPE. It will then rise to between 10.5 and 11.5 as it beds in. Quote Link to post
topshot26 30 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 right ok how much are they si because i saw how easy your rifle cocked Quote Link to post
GSkye 94 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 i'm shooting pretty well with my .22 BSA Lightning, however ive never used a .177 to tell you any different. Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 harsh 177 smooth 22 ??? with the HARSH 177, the pellet is out of the gun and down range when the harshness happens , the 22 has to be SMOOTH because when the smoothness happens the pellet is still crawling down the big fat tube with its massive pellet . 1 Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 HAHA guess you prefer a .177 barrywhite :laugh: Quote Link to post
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