Brecon Beacons Servicemen Die

[socks 32,253]

Fitness has nothing to do with it .... Training and education has everything to do with it and a TA soldier will have nowhere near the knowledge and experience of a full time soldier fit or not and that's what makes the difference when the shit hits the fan .........

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Its is possible to a fit TA person alot unfit full time service bods go for it I personal think being TA has little bearing on this sad situ

 

. You been in the army cookie thinks socks opinion carrys a bit wieght

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

You can still have any full time service person apply who has as little if not less training education than a TA personal for all we know some of the six may have had service history prior to become TA ,

 

Let see the full facts

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

Repect Socks thoughts but his opinion that all TA are uneducated unfit is a very sweeping statement indeed .

 

I servied with a ex RM Reserve he pissed over most full time squaddies in inter services comps and he was 40 and the lads he went up against was fit 20 years old P company

 

ATB Cookie

[socks 32,253]

You can still have any full time service person apply who has as little if not less training education than a TA personal for all we know some of the six may have had service history prior to become TA ,

 

Let see the full facts

 

I never said they were unfit as fitness is a personal thing but the fact remains that MOST TA lads will not have the experience or training of a full time soldier ... to say anything different is silly ... It's like saying a special bobby has the experience and knowledge of a full time copper .........

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

Lets see there history before we make judgment

[gonetoearth 5,144]

We have the reputaion throuout the world for one of the best armed forces we are going down a path that worries me , the ta has become More pro but i think socks is right. I grew up with ex para regs who then went 4 para They treated it like a jolly athough in recent years its become better eqipped and training Ive been told is comparable with reg , we need a full time pro army no matter what the cost

Edited July 15, 2013 by gonetoearth

[socks 32,253]

If this wasn't a squadded run/march then as sad as it is them lads can't blame anybody else for what happened ... A real shame which ever way it pans out ..........

[whippet 99 2,613]

its like your winter time / weekend pest controller having more exspereince than a full time one........

[paulus 26]

You can still have any full time service person apply who has as little if not less training education than a TA personal for all we know some of the six may have had service history prior to become TA ,

 

Let see the full facts

full time squaddies have been known to train for years prior to selection and have still failed. I have known RAF officers that could pass the fitness elements but failed the weapons training element, did you know that Lewis Collins was a TA para he went down like a bag of spuds when he mouthed off one night at a real one

[gonetoearth 5,144]

its like your winter time / weekend pest controller having more exspereince than a full time one........

. Little differance bud when some rag heads trying to take your life were as you average pest might sting you !!!! Edited July 15, 2013 by gonetoearth

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

You can still have any full time service person apply who has as little if not less training education than a TA personal for all we know some of the six may have had service history prior to become TA ,

 

Let see the full facts

 

full time squaddies have been known to train for years prior to selection and have still failed. I have known RAF officers that could pass the fitness elements but failed the weapons training element, did you know that Lewis Collins was a TA para he went down like a bag of spuds when he mouthed off one night at a real one

. My uncle was a reg then went ta we used to go away with them. The ex regs used to wind the the young intake up to fook Had some great times

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

One of our lads l lossed his rifle on a excericise so manybe Socks is right

[paulus 26]

 

 

You can still have any full time service person apply who has as little if not less training education than a TA personal for all we know some of the six may have had service history prior to become TA ,

 

Let see the full facts

full time squaddies have been known to train for years prior to selection and have still failed. I have known RAF officers that could pass the fitness elements but failed the weapons training element, did you know that Lewis Collins was a TA para he went down like a bag of spuds when he mouthed off one night at a real one

. My uncle was a reg then went ta we used to go away with them. The ex regs used to wind the the young intake up to fook Had some great times

 

There was a certain nco who was stationed at Brize Norton, his job was just to beast the babies during jump training, I walk into the swimming pool one afternoon and he had them swimming lengths with a black bucket tied to their legs Good old Russ, he was injured in the Falklands conflict by an Argentinian artillery shell, he was fooking nuts, great bloke though

[gonetoearth 5,144]

You ex para Palo